Revisionist History: Update…
According to TVNewser, Olbermann will correct his error regarding the fat/facts gaffe…
Note to TVNewser: You might inform your readers that Friday wasn’t the only day this happened. Just a thought…
Update: I guess this script from tonight’s show will have to be changed now…(J$ sent in the tip)
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Here is Keith’s script from tonight’s show, where Brian Deer will receive (at least) the bronze Worst Person in the World honors… it will air tonight, barring breaking news:
The bronze to Brian Deer.
He wrote the Times of London report that Dr. Andrew Wakefield had allegedly altered key research linking the Measles, Mumps and Rubella triple-vaccine to autism in children, which earned Dr. Wakefield a spot on this list yesterday.The Times of London did not bother to mention that the British investigation into whether or not Wakefield did that was the result of a complaint by… Brian Deer.
The guy who wrote the article about the investigation never mentioned he was the complainant who precipitated the investigation.
The truth about the doctor’s research may be in doubt here, but not Deer’s vast conflict of interest nor the Times of London’s journalistic malfeasance.
The paper is owned by Rupert Murdoch, and it’s my bad for forgetting his new motto: “We have never been a company that tolerates facts.”
February 11, 2009 at 3:24 pm
That’s 2 nights of Countdown for you, L&J. Since I’m willing to watch Bill and KO regularly to get various POVs, maybe you should try it, too. They’re both pompous a***s, but entertaining and often with interesting things to say.
February 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Do I hear crickets chirping?
February 11, 2009 at 4:38 pm
zoneatlas on the other thread is right. IF there is an apology, it will be completely half-assed and will include a slam on FOX. You can bank on it. The guy can’t help himself.
February 11, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Sigh.
February 11, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Interesting day for me. First, Art viciously attacks my integrity twice before admitting he is wrong. Second, KO is caught lying or misquoting Murdock’s comments about FNC and I end up committed to watching two of his shows if he apologizes. What we conservatives voluntary endure in our never ending effort to reach out to our liberal friends. Tolerance is a conservative virtue. Big bipartisan smile, you’re all invited over for drinks!
February 11, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I used to watch Keith’s show when it first started. But can’t stomach the hate and the obsession with all things FOX. He has serious issues.
February 11, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Don’t get excited about his “FOX obsession”. He’s built a new career out of it. What you call obsession I call “found a target, got famous hitting it.” He learned it from the conservatives targeting the Clintons. Hey, it works.
February 11, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I like it. Their source still hasn’t corrected the quote. Keith did it anyway.
February 11, 2009 at 6:08 pm
I agree with Joe. It’s less an obsession than a never ending stunt. It works. Hey, rush attacks the “drive-by media,” other goppers attack the msm. KO attacks fox. Whats the difference?
February 11, 2009 at 6:08 pm
should have been “msm”
February 11, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Rapid fire juvenile insult after insult. I can only describe the show as an example of extreme paranoia, derangement and hate. Almost every sentence was personal, absurd and way over the top. Very very sad.
February 11, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Hey L&J, why so hard on Billo?
February 11, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Speaking of bad sources, didja hear about the first woman to swim the 2100 miles across the Atlantic? Turns out she spent most of her time on her crew’s catamaran because of rough seas. A crewmember estimates she swam 250 miles. Any guesses on the AP’s original source? I’m going with the swimmer as the original, followed by annoyed crewmember for the correction.
Did anybody plan for rough seas? Is there such a thing as an entirely calm sea over 2100 miles? In February? Diver boy should know something about this.
February 11, 2009 at 7:22 pm
WHAT A COWARD! This man didn’t even apologize and placed the blame on a blogger’s website. Queef Olberdouche has no journalistic intergerity when caught with false information and won’t take responsibility when called upon. No wonder he’s been fired from ESPN, FOX and MSNBC!
February 11, 2009 at 7:26 pm
A normally trustworthy site is just that. There’s nothing cowardly about taking the fall for it when the original source still hasn’t. “Queef Olberdouche has no journalistic intergerity” is one of the dumbest sentences I’ve ever read.
February 11, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Queef Olberdouche knew what he did and was saying. He was too much of a coward to come out and admit he was wrong but instead he was too busy scoring cheap politics points with the unemployed Che Guevara T-shirts wearing losers at the Daily Kos
February 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Wow. Zone. Calm. Down.
February 11, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Zone. Type…then drink.
February 11, 2009 at 7:58 pm
“A normally trustworthy site is just that”
It’s amazing how some (not all) liberals can have two totally contradictory thoughts in one sentence and not be embarrassed. I’m beginning to understand where this Countdown dissonance and paranoia comes from.
February 11, 2009 at 8:20 pm
A normally trustworthy site IS just that. If they have a history of providing accurate quotes, you may be forgiven for screwing up the due diligence to research one of them. It’s a mistake and Countdown will have to redouble their efforts, but it does not connote intentional evil. The whatever-the-site-is-called clearly misunderstood the audio and Countdown’s producers clearly didn’t double-check it. They apparently didn’t even check OlbermannWatch, as has been attested they often do. It appears it took one of their viewers (me) to clue them in after they repeated the quote yesterday.
There is no honor in the mistake, but I see no intended distortion. They’re right to call out their source by name, even going so far as to admonish them for not also posting a correction, and Keith made an oblique reference to being more careful with sources with the humorous “next time we’ll check ShiverMeTimbers.com” comment.
February 11, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Come on Joe. He used the wrong quote to hammer Murdoch on more than one occasion.
Did he apologize? No.
Did he admit that he or his staff made a mistake? No.
Did he bother to check The Examiner, which had the actual story? No.
He blamed some blue blog for not correcting THEIR mistake, so he “corrected it for them”.
Truly pathetic.
February 11, 2009 at 8:52 pm
He corrected it without a backhanded swipe. Good enough for me. YRMV.
February 11, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Well he apologized for the website’s error, not his own failure to verify the quote. And of course he didn’t correct his doctoring of O’Reilly’s quote on Friday either. So while it’s a concession from Keith, it’s a typically small (in every sense of the word) concession.
February 11, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Joe-
Seriously? You don’t hold MSNBC to a higher standard than ripping & reading from a website? You don’t feel that they should have taken 10 minutes out of their day to verify the quote? With the word “facts”, the quote doesn’t even make sense. What does that have to do with finance? Either the countdown people are incredibly stupid or they’re so blinded by their hate of everything Fox News that they simply don’t care.
I saw the video of Olberidiot reading the false quote, ripping Murdoch, mocking Murdoch, grandstanding, etc. After all that, he simply says oops someone else got it wrong? What about apologizing for acting like a jackass during his theatrical performance?
No wonder he gets DESTROYED in the ratings. Only narrow minded kooks watch the guy.
February 11, 2009 at 11:22 pm
“Narrowminded kooks” from some of you guys is rich. Yes I think Countdown should have checked it out. They screwed up and corrected it. They also do a lot for a segment of the population that is seriously pissed off about the crap we took the last eight years.
February 12, 2009 at 5:16 am
I never knew how much power George Bush had over some of the liberals. According to some of our liberal friends he actually drove them to abandon all civility, common sense, integrity and rationality. I cannot accept that as an excuse and simply don’t believe it is possible. This nonstop hate filled; rapid fire insult programs simply can’t be GB fault. Lack of serious content, discussion, issues, debate, civility, facts and even common decency can’t all be blamed on the GB 8 years. I sincerely hope that last night’s Countdown program is not an example of how mainstream liberals think. It is impossible to take this irrational spewing of hate as anything then what it is. I’m horrified that some of these liberals excuse and actually enjoy this inexcusable crescendo of invective. This is a parallel universe that has no regard for even a shred of honesty or decency. I’ve never seen a more miserable and irrationally sick show. I know that conservatives can be tough on liberals but I have never seen any conservative show treat their ideological competitors with such distain, hate, irrationality. Never.
February 12, 2009 at 6:29 am
So Joe do I have this right? You’re saying that you see no intended distortion? Did you see the context of the quote? Murdoch was talking about the company’s financial discipline. A six year old could figure out that Murdoch was misquoted.
You might have a case if this was the first such example. But I’ve seen way too many distorted quotes from O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Guiliani and others not to believe that this was intentional. If it’s embarrassing to one of his enemies, he’s reading it. He just doesn’t care!
Have you noticed that he always reads these quotes rather than simply showing the video? It’s easier to control (i.e., distort) the context that way. If it’s Nancy Pelosi, he’ll play the video. But if it’s someone he doesn’t like…
February 12, 2009 at 8:10 am
“They also do a lot for a segment of the population that is seriously pissed off about the crap we took the last eight years.” — Joe —
No, they do a lot for a segment of the population with serious anger issues and hearts & minds full of hate. Olbermann is not a serious person. He’s a hate filled kook. He cares nothing about fact only defamation. I honestly fear he has some serious psychological issues. No one can be that full of venom. I’m surprised he hasn’t done a “special comment” on how President Bush personally planted bombs at the WTC.
I only personally know one person who is a fan of Olbermann…a coworker of mine. This guy has serious anger issues. Not just about GWB but about life. Two weeks ago he was complaining about the stock market and angrily said “George Bush stole my money”. Then, he stormed out of the room. The guy is a kook. Like Olbermann.
February 12, 2009 at 8:22 am
Republicans calling Democrats hate-filled and full of venom is hilarious. You ever listen to Rush?
February 12, 2009 at 8:32 am
L&J, you’re on notice. You’ve still got one more Countdown to watch tonight. I’ll be catching it in reruns later, after I get back from Book Passage. I’m going to a Jimmy Carter book signing!
February 12, 2009 at 9:30 am
Rush certainly can be very tough, poke fun at liberals and I’m sure he insults a few people in the course of selling his philosophy. I don’t agree with the insulting part. Yes at time he could be more diplomatic and less blunt. However his program is almost always about policy options, ideas, what will work, what won’t work, why, how and full of his rational of how he think things can be improved. At countdown last night it’s 90% nonstop outright hate of conservatives “as individual people” and spewing of personal insults /invective. IMO, Rush actually puts opposing points of view on the program when they are respectful (callers) deals with them in the realm of ideas, philosophies and examples. He often talks about unintended consequences of “well meaning” liberal programs without attacking the liberal people personally. He not a Saint, but he certainly is not grinding his teeth with hate of every liberal person on earth. Not even close! Not Countdowns nonstop petty personal destruction with insults after insult. Rush attempts to destroy liberal ideas. Countdown is intent on destroying conservative people. There is a huge difference. Rush submits to fact checking and makes corrections and actually has done some heartfelt apologies when he was wrong. Oberman is irrational and actually appears wish harm on people who disagree with him. IMO, Countdown is one big mental problem.
I certainly don’t believe that Countdown can be mainstream liberal thinking. I hope not, and I’m going to continue to believe that most liberals (but not all) are well meaning but misguided. (I hope main stream liberals could give conservatives the same benefit of the doubt.) I‘d bet that’s how Rush also feels. Last night’s countdown showed not of a shred of consideration and decency that every human being deserves, yes even conservatives. I was actually hoping for a rational program, something much different.
Joe, I always do my best to keep my word. Last night was torture (noted above). However I believe in 2nd chances but in this case I’m looking for a miracle. Say hello to Jimmy, I admire his work on Habitat for Humanity and human rights. I think his presidency had good intentions but perused the wrong policies. The results speak for themselves. I’ve read most of his books.
February 12, 2009 at 10:58 am
Hey L&J, I’ll cut you a deal. KO is specifically suited for those of us who are still dealing with a sense of extended outrage over those idiots who took over our country the last 8 years. Why don’t you check out Rachel Maddow instead. You won’t agree with her, but she delivers intelligent discussion without the bombast Keith brings to it. You’ll still hear the anger – conservatives/libertarians who don’t watch liberal opinion shows may not have realized how angry most Democrats are – but it’s not personal and loud.
February 12, 2009 at 11:59 am
Joe, while you’re meeting with the Peanut Farmer, can you thank him for being the worst president & worst ex-president of all-time?
February 12, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Joe-
On your point about Maddow, I told my sister (a MSNBC fan) that Maddow is the only voice I can tolerate. I don’t watch her show very often, actually hardly at all, but when I’ve seen her she’s been reasoned and has actually let opposing viewpoints be heard.
For me it’s not about the ideology of the person. I’m conservative but I have no problem watching liberal commentators provided they are not hate-filled kooks…like Olby.
February 12, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Yeah Red, I’ll get right on that…right after you personally thank The Little Dictator for the last 8 years for me.
February 12, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Napoleon? Or Kim Jung Il?
February 12, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Cheney Il Bush.
February 13, 2009 at 6:06 am
Unlike the countdown “torture chamber”, the Rachel Maddox show last night was a civil discussion of real issues without the hate spewing derangement of Keith Oberman. I especially enjoyed the Abraham Lincoln tribute and the Obama connection and found the piece full of universal truths. I respect Ms. Maddow but obviously don’t agree with her political, economic philosophy or her edge because it is counterproductive. I have absolutely no objections to her show and would watch it again with an open mind. I was very familiar with every liberal argument (delivered very nicely) because I have heard 100% of the very same liberal opinion watching/reading the everyday MSM hard news. I’m not kidding. Perhaps the Fox opinion shows are much more popular because their POV is not voiced to the same degree in the MSM hard news. Just a theory.Smile
February 13, 2009 at 6:08 am
Maddow not Maddox, Sorry, Dyslexia or worse at work