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On Morning Joe, Scarborough reacting to Carrie Prejean’s mea culpa about her little tape to Sean Hannity. Joe to Mika: “I don’t think you understand the essence of Christ or Carrie, and you just need to work through that.” Mika: “I think those two words oughta stay very far apart from each other.” That’s good television.
Speaking of boycotting Fox News…this happened coincidentally shortly after Imus joined FBN. Everyone remembers how MSNBC -CBS and WFAN and their advertisers were threatened with a boycott. Hmmm they couldn’t make a boycott of Glenn Beck work so they threatened a whole Cable News Channel with boycott.
The first day Imus broadcast he raised FBN’s morning slot rating by 1500%
Y’know, I simply don’t understand this liberal argument (Krugman today, Joe Klein yesterday, E.J. Dionne the day before) that the Republican party is becoming an increasingly smaller party isolated to the South but somehow this paranoid fringe movement threatens to take over the country. Or wreck the government. Or something.
Too sophisticated of a thesis for my tiny brain to comprehend.
Geez, my Carrie Prejean post looks pretty cheesy in light of the day’s events. That’s what I get for watching DVRed Morning Joe instead of live cable news. Oy.
I agree, Steve. The ‘fringe movement’ may be capable of a little anarchy here and there, but the chances of them “taking their government” back are slim.
The ‘fringe movement’ may be capable of a little anarchy here and there, but the chances of them “taking their government” back are slim.
For Krugman until the only Republican public official in America is a 73-year old retiree on the Topeka Zoning Board (part time job) the Republic will be forever endangered by these people.
Those tea bagging zoning board commissioners can do a heckuva lot of damage, I suppose.
See, after 9/11 we were lectured not to irresponsibly condemn all of Islam because of the acts of some. Okay. But some chowderheads at a tax party acts like jerks and the whole movement can be considered a bunch of zealots.
Krugman’s argument isn’t that the this fringe movement is going to take over the country. His argument is that the more of these fringe candidates are taking over the Republican Party. And while there is little doubt that there are not enough of them to win majorities in either chamber, that they could turn the country into California. In California, the Republican Party is extreme, but a sizeable minority (a contradiction in terms I know). Enough so, that when they stand together (and they ALWAYS stnad together), they can gum up the system and prevent any governance from actually happening.
It’s hard to argue with that argument since the Republican Party has been in lockstep (save a Cao or Snowe vote here and there) against anything Obama has tried to do.
smh, that’s how Washington works. Except for a few instances in relation to the War on Terror, the Dems were in lockstep against anything Bush tried to do.
Obama has tried to radically change the entire American way of life on numerous fronts with his liberal ways. Of course the Republicans are going to oppose him. When he actually comes up with a good idea that benefits most of the country, and doesn’t put us into debt with the Chinese for the next century, let us know.
As for the “Republicans are becoming a small, southern party” mantra…. when did New Jersey move to the South? Did I miss some global warming-related calamity that shifted the states around?
That’s constitutional representative democracy in action. In California, the minority party may very well be keeping the majority from driving over the edge of a canyon wall.
But who cares? In 2012 if you’re west of the San Andreas you’ll be shark bait anyway.
I live in CA., and it’s infuriating to me that the minority party weilds so much power.
From everything I’ve read, the interest groups and unions in the state have a strangle hold every bit as strong – stronger – as the minority party on any compromise legislation that will at least mitigate the problem. Not solve, lessen.
Do away with the GOP, Joe, and what would be accomplished to deal with the problem?
Depends on how you define the problem. CA government is broken. The Legislature is polarized and impotent. The Governer can’t do a lot. Proposition 13 still looms over the state decades after it was passed with its onerous 2/3 rule that basically allows for minority rule. The Initiative process is hopelessly flawed and is now more of a means to bypass the feckless state government apparatus. Unions wield too much power, particularly the state corrections union.
If it wasn’t still such a great place to live, I’d leave. But its greatness is starting to fade thanks to what’s wrong with Sacramento.
November 10, 2009 at 11:13 am
On Morning Joe, Scarborough reacting to Carrie Prejean’s mea culpa about her little tape to Sean Hannity. Joe to Mika: “I don’t think you understand the essence of Christ or Carrie, and you just need to work through that.” Mika: “I think those two words oughta stay very far apart from each other.” That’s good television.
November 10, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Speaking of boycotting Fox News…this happened coincidentally shortly after Imus joined FBN. Everyone remembers how MSNBC -CBS and WFAN and their advertisers were threatened with a boycott. Hmmm they couldn’t make a boycott of Glenn Beck work so they threatened a whole Cable News Channel with boycott.
The first day Imus broadcast he raised FBN’s morning slot rating by 1500%
ChannelXRFR is back blogging on Imus Times HERE.
http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2009/11/09/its-official-imus-is-awesome-on-fox-business-news/
November 10, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Terrific speech/address by the President at the memorial at Ft. Hood today. Almost perfect.
This shouldn’t embed, I think, but a link is here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33836331#33836331
A world community, like a small one, can be harmed by one person or one nation. Or several. I hope he gets that.
November 10, 2009 at 1:44 pm
A world community, like a small one, can be harmed by one person or one nation. Or several. I hope he gets that.
Better: A “world community” can be damaged by one nation just as a small one can be damaged by one person.
November 10, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Y’know, I simply don’t understand this liberal argument (Krugman today, Joe Klein yesterday, E.J. Dionne the day before) that the Republican party is becoming an increasingly smaller party isolated to the South but somehow this paranoid fringe movement threatens to take over the country. Or wreck the government. Or something.
Too sophisticated of a thesis for my tiny brain to comprehend.
November 10, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Geez, my Carrie Prejean post looks pretty cheesy in light of the day’s events. That’s what I get for watching DVRed Morning Joe instead of live cable news. Oy.
November 10, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I agree, Steve. The ‘fringe movement’ may be capable of a little anarchy here and there, but the chances of them “taking their government” back are slim.
November 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm
The ‘fringe movement’ may be capable of a little anarchy here and there, but the chances of them “taking their government” back are slim.
For Krugman until the only Republican public official in America is a 73-year old retiree on the Topeka Zoning Board (part time job) the Republic will be forever endangered by these people.
Those tea bagging zoning board commissioners can do a heckuva lot of damage, I suppose.
See, after 9/11 we were lectured not to irresponsibly condemn all of Islam because of the acts of some. Okay. But some chowderheads at a tax party acts like jerks and the whole movement can be considered a bunch of zealots.
Hey, he gets a column out of it.
November 10, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Steve,
Krugman’s argument isn’t that the this fringe movement is going to take over the country. His argument is that the more of these fringe candidates are taking over the Republican Party. And while there is little doubt that there are not enough of them to win majorities in either chamber, that they could turn the country into California. In California, the Republican Party is extreme, but a sizeable minority (a contradiction in terms I know). Enough so, that when they stand together (and they ALWAYS stnad together), they can gum up the system and prevent any governance from actually happening.
It’s hard to argue with that argument since the Republican Party has been in lockstep (save a Cao or Snowe vote here and there) against anything Obama has tried to do.
November 10, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Well, stated SMH. I live in CA., and it’s infuriating to me that the minority party weilds so much power.
November 10, 2009 at 4:15 pm
smh, that’s how Washington works. Except for a few instances in relation to the War on Terror, the Dems were in lockstep against anything Bush tried to do.
Obama has tried to radically change the entire American way of life on numerous fronts with his liberal ways. Of course the Republicans are going to oppose him. When he actually comes up with a good idea that benefits most of the country, and doesn’t put us into debt with the Chinese for the next century, let us know.
As for the “Republicans are becoming a small, southern party” mantra…. when did New Jersey move to the South? Did I miss some global warming-related calamity that shifted the states around?
November 10, 2009 at 4:17 pm
-minority party wields so much power-
That’s constitutional representative democracy in action. In California, the minority party may very well be keeping the majority from driving over the edge of a canyon wall.
But who cares? In 2012 if you’re west of the San Andreas you’ll be shark bait anyway.
November 10, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Al, I’ve got an Eastbound flight to catch in late 2011..
November 10, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Al, I’ve got an Eastbound flight to catch in late 2011..
Joe…I assume that your flight will be one way???
November 10, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Just make sure you leave Pelosi behind.
November 10, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I live in CA., and it’s infuriating to me that the minority party weilds so much power.
From everything I’ve read, the interest groups and unions in the state have a strangle hold every bit as strong – stronger – as the minority party on any compromise legislation that will at least mitigate the problem. Not solve, lessen.
Do away with the GOP, Joe, and what would be accomplished to deal with the problem?
November 10, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Depends on how you define the problem. CA government is broken. The Legislature is polarized and impotent. The Governer can’t do a lot. Proposition 13 still looms over the state decades after it was passed with its onerous 2/3 rule that basically allows for minority rule. The Initiative process is hopelessly flawed and is now more of a means to bypass the feckless state government apparatus. Unions wield too much power, particularly the state corrections union.
If it wasn’t still such a great place to live, I’d leave. But its greatness is starting to fade thanks to what’s wrong with Sacramento.
November 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Don Surber’s Tweet of the day
jaketapper: ok, my wife bought the Stephen King book. pretty cool to be in it. but one pt of clarification: i am not actually half wolf.