David Shuster Speaks…
Shuster was on the radio tonight and talked a bit about what happened to him and what will happen going foward. Johnny Dollar has the audio of the highlights (or lowlights depending on your point of view)
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Shuster was on the radio tonight and talked a bit about what happened to him and what will happen going foward. Johnny Dollar has the audio of the highlights (or lowlights depending on your point of view)
December 30, 2010 at 12:11 am
I’m not a Shuster fan, but this is a well thought out commentary. He’s absolutely right about Beck. His attempt to paint George Soros as a participant in the Holocaust should have gotten him fired, but Murdoch and Ailes just look the other way and count the money.
I have an old friend that was sending me Beck/Soros stuff when that series was running (not someone who comments here). There’s a lot of people out there that believe every word Glenn Beck says about this country, and throw around phrases like Weimar Republic. He’s a dangerous man.
December 30, 2010 at 6:44 am
I agree i thought the commentary was as good. He sure does not want to burn any more bridges because as he says more people are moving to website journalism so therefore more of the people he may have worked with in the past are also moving to website journalism. He has to keep all options open for himself in the future.
As far as Beck/Soros I believe they both can be scary. I don’t believe there are enough “people out there that believe every word Glen beck says about this country” to really make anyone too nervous about the state of this country. They don’t have to listen to Beck to be afraid. I watch a of of CNBC in the morning and listening to all their guest hosts (not the anchors so much since I know which way they all lean) is when I get scared. What I am saying it is easy to ignore Beck and encourage you to do so.
The other thing I would say re: Beck/Soros is Beck is on the air and you can find out what he is saying and doing very easily, whereas Soros does much of his thing behind the scenes and you need to dig some to get to where he has his fingers in the pie.
December 30, 2010 at 7:33 am
Sounds like Shuster is following the well worn path of many out of work journalists to a career on the internet. The question with all these sites viability is where they get the money to pay the bills. Lets see whose funding this new ‘investigative journalism’ website and then we can see if it has a future.
pam: Everything you say about Soras can just as easily be said about the Koch brothers. Do you consider them scary too?
December 30, 2010 at 8:11 am
George Soros has acknowledged that he “participated” in the Holocaust by helping turn in Jewish people to the Germans who then occupied Hungary.
But his actions were undertaken as a young boy (13/14) in a time where it was either collaborate with the authorities or yourself be arrested or killed. I think his actions were understandable. However, his complete lack of remorse is hard to understand. Beck was right to raise that question.
As to Shuster: I find it striking that a man who regularly worked with Keith Olbermann would find Nazi analogies unacceptable and indefensible. That’s not a defense of Beck but it is an indictment of the crediblity of Mr. Shuster in his claims to be outraged over such word usage.
December 30, 2010 at 8:24 am
Shuster worked for MSNBC. To claim he worked “with KO” is silly. Even KO’s cosest friends probably shudder at some of his histrionics.
If Soros’ “participation” in the Holocaust was limited to acquiesance uder fear of death as a boy, it doesn’t belong in a discussion on any news network.
December 30, 2010 at 8:30 am
fritz3: know only a little about the Koch brothers – need to do more research before I can answer your question honestly.
December 30, 2010 at 8:36 am
Shuster worked for MSNBC. To claim he worked “with KO” is silly. Even KO’s cosest friends probably shudder at some of his histrionics.
Once again: Shuster worked with Olbermann on MSNBC – he appeared regularly on the show – and as such didn’t express a single criticism during his monologue of Olbermann’s repeated use of the fascist and Nazi imagery. He’s upset at Beck’s usage of the terms but is silent about someone he worked with using it? That makes no sense.
As to Soros: He is, for good or bad, a major international figure. That he in turned in Jews to be killed is an interesting fact to discuss especially since – and I’ll go slow for you – he has NEVER expressed remorse for his activity. In fact, he has stated that it “was the best time of his life.”
Again: someone turns in Jews to be massacred and has no remorse? No regrets?
I’ll suggest that if Mr. Soros was on the political right that Mr. Shuster and other liberals would be raising these questions without any second thoughts.
Those are odd and disturbing views for such a powerful person.
December 30, 2010 at 8:50 am
I loved Shuster’s face-saving about being fired from a great TV gig. “Investigative journalism on the internet is the future.” Yeah, David, I’m sure you and Rick Sanchez are thrilled at your “new opportunities”..
December 30, 2010 at 8:54 am
Imagine, let’s say, Megyn Kelly leaving Fox and publicly condemning the Nazi/fascist terms employed by Keith Olbermann but not saying a single word about Beck’s usage?
She would have zero crediblity on the matter.
Rightly so.
December 30, 2010 at 9:43 am
If anybody wishes to learn about the Koch brothers …here’s a good article to start with.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
December 30, 2010 at 9:47 am
joeremi Says:
December 30, 2010 at 8:24 am
Shuster worked for MSNBC. To claim he worked “with KO” is silly.
Did he sub for KO, or not? If he did… then to say he “worked with KO,” and certainly “KO’s staff” is completely reasonable.
December 30, 2010 at 9:50 am
Sorry Joeremi but George Soros admitted that he helped send Jews to Death Camps and steal their property. That’s fact! David Shuster needs to find the Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes interview where he also admitted he had no guilt from doing it. Showed no remorse for what he did…
December 30, 2010 at 9:58 am
Did he sub for KO, or not? If he did… then to say he “worked with KO,” and certainly “KO’s staff” is completely reasonable
Worked “with” or “alongside” or on the “same network.”
In any case, the point is his silence about the reckless journalism of Olbermann (and others at MSNBC) while condeming the reckless journalism elsewhere. Silence about recklessness from his “own network”? Why?
My guess is that he doesn’t consider it reckless. I.e., he agrees with it.
December 30, 2010 at 10:14 am
Sorry Joeremi but George Soros admitted that he helped send Jews to Death Camps and steal their property.
Look, Crazy People, I neither know nor care much about George Soros and his Liberal Conspiracy To Destroy America, but his participation in the Holocaust was as a boy under threat of death. I also doubt he could have known what the Final Solution was. Glenn Beck can babble about the causes Soros supports all he wants, but including him as a N@zi sympathizer is bullsh!t. He should have at the very least been forced to retract it. But no..Glenn Beck can say whatever the hell he wants over there.
December 30, 2010 at 10:20 am
Glenn Beck can babble about the causes Soros supports all he wants, but including him as a N@zi sympathizer is bullsh!t
He never called Soros a “sympathizer.” And he mentioned that Soros was “forced” or “coerced” (however one wants to characterize them) to take the actions that he did.
For what it’s worth, when Beck made his comments about Soros I criticized them here. But not because he called Soros a “sympathizer” or “collaborator”.
Because he didn’t.
Beck raised the question as to why Soros looks back upon those days so fondly. Soros called them “the best days of his life” and that he has no regrets.
Those are pretty odd remembrances.
December 30, 2010 at 10:25 am
Soros is a prety odd guy, but Beck clearly tries to connect liberalism with N@zism, and I’m fed up with it.
December 30, 2010 at 10:35 am
Soros is a prety odd guy, but Beck clearly tries to connect liberalism with N@zism, and I’m fed up with it.
Well if that’s your complaint, fine. I agree with it. Although he uses the term “progressives” and applies it to a McCain et al (!!).
He says irresponsible and indefensible things. So do a lot of people on cable news. Beck may be the worst but it’s a large movement.
But your posts on what he said about Soros aren’t, to me, accurate.
If you’re tired of the “liberals are N@zis” line think how conservatives feel. I’ve heard that same line for 25 years.
Heck, when I was on the left I did the same thing.
December 30, 2010 at 10:43 am
Ugh, I just had this conversation at J$’s Place, too. Nauseating. If anybody wants to chat about Christine O’Donnell or something else lighter at Free For All, I’ll see ya there. “Glenn Beck and the Holocaust” are too intense for the holidays. I’m out.
December 30, 2010 at 10:44 am
^ is too intense. Grammar police are watching.
December 30, 2010 at 6:23 pm
^ Soros apparently looked back upon his childhood “fondly,” and that’s just “one of those things.” Haley Barbour does something similar, and there’s outrage.
Why the double standard?
December 30, 2010 at 6:43 pm
If you think there are crazy people here, JR, I’m sure you noticed how crazier they are at J$P. Once you say something that even remotely resembles a “Fox hater“, they jump on you like a pack of hyenas who need their supper.
December 30, 2010 at 6:44 pm
You tell me, Blue. I’ve made no comment on Soros’ “fond remembrance”, nor do I have a problem with Barbour having a happy childhood. I do have a problem with him remembering it that way for others.
December 30, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Once you say something that even remotely resembles a “Fox hater“, they jump on you like a pack of hyenas who need their supper.
Then I have to explain – again – that I’m not a Fox hater, I just have big problems with a lot of the crap they spew. Which, in spite of the fact that I watch and like a lot of FNC, they construe as “Fox hating”.
What I would love to see is more of them do the same for MSNBC. I’m quite capable of enjoying things on FNC even when I disagree with them. There’s a line between ‘legitimate thoughts I disagree with’, and ‘lies’. FNC travels in much of both, and I choose to enjoy the disagreements, and call out the crap.
Most of the folks I’ve encountered at J$P wouldn’t be caught dead watching ‘the opposition’, and considers all of it ‘illegitimate’. That irritates me.
December 31, 2010 at 2:59 am
Oh, yeah, I know you’re not a “Fox hater”, JR. In fact, you’re usually too nice. I’m admittedly, and proudly, a “Fox hater”. I don’t literally hate them, though. I wouldn’t waste actual hate on people like that.
The funny thing is that a lot of people who watch Fox, and are at Fox News, are very much the same. They all have that similar arrogance towards others, projecting hate, and then calling them hateful. It’s comical.
They probably act like that because they are paranoid about being looked down on by those elitist libs, so they lash out. That could be easily avoided if their channel of choice wasn’t so deliberately dishonest.
December 31, 2010 at 3:45 am
I can live with “too nice”. It balances nicely with my “too kill em all”..