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June 13, 2011 at 9:26 am
Here’s one for Whit. Good God, that’s an URL-and-a-half.
http://www.salon.com/life/feminism/index.html?story=/mwt/feature/2011/06/12/unnatural_selection_interview&source=newsletter&utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Salon_Daily%2520Newsletter%2520%2528Not%2520Premium%2529_7_30_110
June 13, 2011 at 10:02 am
Nevermind the witch-hunt, it was all just one big science experiment. And, the fact that the subject was Palin, ehh, that’s just a coincidence!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110612/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_emails_media
June 13, 2011 at 10:33 am
These fools are going to get her elected, and they’ll never understand why. They think that their hatred is a tool and an argument, and it never works. They’ve hated Rush for 20 years, and he’s still around. They hated Reagan and Bush; both were reelected. It’s really the definition of liberalism, when you think about it. Something doesn’t work, so you double-down on it.
June 13, 2011 at 10:36 am
^ it’s their mindset. They think that the public actually trusts what they have to say. In reality, most people know where they’re coming from on the ideological front. For people who claim to be so brilliant, they’re pretty darn dense.
June 13, 2011 at 10:56 am
– mindset –
It’s like that story in Salon about Anthony Weiner. The man had a history of playing racial politics, but how many people actually knew about it? And would they have written the story a month ago?
It’s the basic assumptions, the template. Deep down, most liberals just assume ‘racism’ on the right, until proven otherwise. Since most of the press is liberal, that’s where they are coming from. Anthony Weiner is liberal, and therefor cannot possibly be racist. No, he’s just appealing to the assumed racism of his would-be-constituency. To the extent that the press recognized it, well, he did it for the greater good. Because he’s a good person. Not like those Tea Party-people.
June 13, 2011 at 11:00 am
From Laura:
“These fools are going to get her elected, ..”
You said it! I thought she was ill-qualified as a candidate for ANYTHING, but the more they go after her, the more resilience she shows. And she’s been scrutinized more than anyone in history! If I were her, I’d be in the witness protection program by now.
I can’t believe everything she’s put up with, and am ready to go work on her campaign. Seriously, she’s got my vote, even it out of sympathy. And she can thank every liberal in the country for that!
June 13, 2011 at 11:29 am
laura l Says:
June 13, 2011 at 10:56 am
Well said.
June 13, 2011 at 11:47 am
I’m no great Palin-fan (shocking!), but even less of a John Ziegler-fan. Golly, who ever would have pegged him as the disloyal type?
http://pubsecrets.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/john-ziegler-can-take-his-phony-self-serving-concern-and-shove-it/
June 13, 2011 at 11:51 am
In keeping with the Ziegler ‘intellect’, perhaps we should assume that he doesn’t like her because she’s prettier than he is.
June 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm
^ I’m gonna play the liberal card and say that he’s a sexist, Alaskanist.
June 13, 2011 at 12:03 pm
You think he’s just jealous ’cause she’s pretty? Sexist.
June 13, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Predictions for tonight’s GOP debate:
Romney will be handsome, reasonable, boring, and probably the next President of the United States.
Cain will be awesome.
Pawlenty will look weird trying to be angry, and making up new ways to link Romney to Obama.
Ron Paul will make perfect sense…until a half hour later when you think, “Wait..what?”
Bachmann will look great..even more so when people Wiki her and find out she’s 55. Yes, 55.
June 13, 2011 at 1:03 pm
“Ron Paul will make perfect sense…until a half hour later when you think, “Wait..what?””
Best line & truest words ever spoken in the history of ICN.
I can’t even predict whether I’m going to watch it. I can’t see opening up a can of care for a good couple more months.
June 13, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Why is Michele Bachmann in a Presidential Debate? She hasn’t declared.
June 13, 2011 at 1:35 pm
^ to give Chris Matthews an ulcer.
June 13, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Joe, she’s polling fairly well, and I guess CNN has loose restrictions when it comes to declaring or not.
Meanwhile, Gary Johnson, who has officially declared, is being kept out because he’s polling poorly.
June 13, 2011 at 2:33 pm
At the first GOP debate in New Hampshire in 2008, Chris Matthews and some guy from Politico were the moderators. Yeah, you read that right.
History will not be repeating itself this time – either as a tragedy or, especially, as farce.
The only way Matthews should be allowed at a Republican debate is if he’s outside parking cars.
June 13, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Declared candidates who aren’t invited to debates tend not to poll well.. I think it’s great Bachmann will be there – I prefer my debates entertaining – but there’s no justification for excluding Johnson.
June 13, 2011 at 3:48 pm
There really isn’t. The inclusion of Bachmann and the exclusion of Johnson makes it look like CNN is doing it more for ratings or some other network gain than a complete representation of the Republican candidates. Not a huge mistake but a relevant one from CNN in my opinion.
June 13, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I don’t have a problem with the exclusion of Johnson. Nobody knows who he is and he isn’t a serious candidate.
-Bachman-
I don’t throw around words like “racist” or “sexist” or “misogynistic” very often so I won’t here. But, the treatment of Bachmann by Matthews is over the top. He continually accuses her of being stupid, being in a trance, being lost, calls her a zombie, etc. Anyway, it’s waaay over the top and if it were a conservative speaking of a liberal woman or minority that way, sh!t would hit the fan.
June 13, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Y’all need to start DVRing the handoff from Martin Bashir to Dylan Ratigan. It’s excruciating. Dylan has no idea how to handle it, and clearly despises Martin. Most of the time DR starts with a bizarre grin, then mumbles something incoherently before saying “banks!”. Once last week he was caught talking to someone off camera.
Today – after Martin called him “Dyligan” – he went off on an extended sarcastic rant about Bashir’s segment on the royals, which went several minutes into the start of his own show, while Bashir tried his best to answer bizarre questions about Harry and Pippa with a straight face. They looked like they wanted to kill each other. Good times.
June 13, 2011 at 4:15 pm
-Ratigan-
That guy talks too damn much. I could enjoy his show if he would limit his questions to less than 300 words. I lose interest before his guests have a chance to respond. I can’t stand Bashir though, so props to Ratigan for attempting to make him look like a fool.
June 13, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Nobody knows who he is and he isn’t a serious candidate
I might agree with that assessment if the primary election was at a more established point in its process. But who at this juncture can possibly know enough to say that Gov. Johnson isn’t a “serious” candidate? Herman Cain, for example, didn’t really excite anybody until they witnessed his performance at the last debate, and he’s become quite the Tea Party darling since then.
I’d also point out that the debates may also help in the selection of the next VPOTUS nominee. At least, I assume that’s what Sen. Santorum is racing toward.
June 13, 2011 at 4:27 pm
I agree that Matthews often spins out of control when talking about women in general, but you can’t convince me that his criticisms of Bachmann are based on gender. The “zombie, trance” stuff is about her innate ability to stick to a talking point at the complete expense of the question being asked. Chris has come down on male politicians/spokesmen/pundits many times for the same thing.
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him call her “stupid”. He’s gone after for her sometimes laughable historical revisions, but she’s not stupid, and I don’t think he has claimed otherwise.
His current mantra – which coincides with mine – is that she’s a savvy, attractive politician (‘attractive’ in the generic ‘appealing to the public’ sense) who is a formidable opponent to Romney, Pawlenty, Santorum, et al, next year.
June 13, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Nobody knows who he is and he isn’t a serious candidate
You don’t become “serious” if they don’t let you in the door. The interview I saw with him a few weeks ago was fascinating. He deserves to be there.
The inclusion of Bachmann at the expense of Johnson makes me question CNN’s alliance with the Tea Party. Something’s not cool about this.
June 13, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I saw this last night. Way to sell yourself out as a biased media tool. You ssk the guy if he has any gay friends, If he says ‘No’, you can slam him for that. If he says ‘Yes’, you can slam him with ”Some of my best friends are..”. Is Santorum so much of a threat that they need to do that?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-asks-rick-santorum-if-he-has-gay-friends-awkwardness-ensues/
June 13, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Damn moderation. Mediaite. Don Lemon. The ‘G’-word.
June 13, 2011 at 4:38 pm
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him call her “stupid”.
Stupid? No, but he’s called her a “balloon head”, a “nut case”, a “zombie”…..
I don’t think they were compliments.
June 13, 2011 at 4:43 pm
I still don’t see the sexism in it, Steve. She started her media career on Hardball calling for an investigation of un-American activities in Congress. She’s mainstreamed her image a lot since then, but that was a little nutty. And I already explained “zombie”. It’s not about intellect; it was a complaint about questions being answered with unrelated talking points, which Chris has always despised. Hence, his oft-repeated “ANSWER THE QUESTION?”
June 13, 2011 at 4:44 pm
“Balloon head”, on the other hand, was idiotic. He was wise to drop it.
June 13, 2011 at 4:51 pm
I still don’t see the sexism in it, Steve.
I agree. I don’t think Matthews is sexist w/regards to Bachmann.
He does seem – and it’s just a sense that I get – to enjoy ridiculing female polticians a bit more than male ones. Sure, he goes after both sexes but he comes across as being more aggressive with women public figures.
A sense isn’t enough to make the charge.
We all know how he gets sometimes. As I’ve said, we all have a internal check or switch in our brains that tells us, “You don’t want to say that!!”
Matthews switch sometimes shorts out.
June 13, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Matthews particularly enjoys ridiculing women and has been this way for as long as I can remember. Democrat, Republican, doesn’t matter.
Somebody should YouTube those Bashir vs Ratigan moments, I haven’t seen those but it sounds hilarious.
Oh, here we go with the GOP debate. These early debates are always excruciating..
June 13, 2011 at 5:10 pm
The whole misrepresentation of what constitutes “racism” or “sexism” infuriates me, and that misrepresentation is batted around constantly. It isn’t racism just because it’s against a minority, and it isn’t sexism just because it’s against the opposite gender.
There has to be component to the statement that in some way goes after that person’s race or gender. “Every time someone criticizes Obama, they cry ‘racism’ “, and “every attack on Sarah Palin is sexist” are both untrue. I’m sick of the dishonest way this stuff is argued.
June 13, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Bachmann uses the debate to take a step closer to official announcement. Nice move.
June 13, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Sorry joe I’m having a hard time buying that from you when you say Fox News is racist every other day.
June 13, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Tired of waiting for moderation.
I saw this last night. Way to sell yourself out as a biased media tool. You ssk the guy if he has any g@y friends, If he says ‘No’, you can slam him for that. If he says ‘Yes’, you can slam him with ”Some of my best friends are..”. Is Santorum so much of a threat that they need to do that?
Look for Don Lemon/Rick Santorum
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/
June 13, 2011 at 5:20 pm
I’d say that using Matthew’s standard of what constitutes bigotry that he is bigoted against women.
Again, that’s using his rule.
Petard hoisted away.
June 13, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Sorry joe I’m having a hard time buying that from you when you say Fox News is racist every other day.
That response is much too general and ridiculous to respond to. I make charges about specific comments; I’ve never said “Fox is racist”. I did say the birther movement was racist in nature, and I stand by it. Mixing and generalizing my comments will get us nowhere.
June 13, 2011 at 5:49 pm
Aah, I just remembered. Early debates suck.
June 13, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Well my bad. I just decided to get to the point and not mince words, but it was unfair.
June 13, 2011 at 6:08 pm
This debate is full of the same Republican talking points and is basically a CNN sanctioned Obama bashfest. Yawn.
June 13, 2011 at 6:11 pm
– CNN sanctioned Obama bashfest –
And only CNN could mute the inherent entertainment value in that.
June 13, 2011 at 6:19 pm
I did say the birther movement was racist in nature, and I stand by it.
And as proof of their racist roots, those evil Tea Party people cheer on Herman Cain of Godfather’s Pizza fame.
June 13, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Whatever, LS. Your comment about the Tea Party and Herman Cain bears no resemblence to the line you quoted.
June 13, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Huh, i haven’t said anything. I just now read over everything I missed.
June 13, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Oops, that was Evil Al. Sorry.
What was up with Pawlenty? He said before the debate he wouldn’t repeat the “ObomneyCare” line, then squirmed for two minutes while John King tried to get him to repeat it. Nice side-by-side shot with Romney smirking during the whole thing.
Pawlenty has Al Gore’s Disease: He bulks up all fake-tough-like, then weasels out of it ’cause it’s not who he is. Dude is a disaster as a candidate.
June 13, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Good ole Rush. It’s women’s fault that male politicians get into sex scandals. Well played, sir.
June 13, 2011 at 7:47 pm
That’s EEEE-ville Al to you, idiot.
Karl Rove may be right about Pawlenty having that Midwestern “nice guy” trait. Or it may be that Michelle Bachmann scared him.
That woman looks like a president. Wow.
June 13, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If Bachmann ran against Obama tomorrow..poof..bye bye Obama. The Dems better figure out how to run tough against a nice lady who’s been foster mom to 23 kids in a HURRY.
Hey, isn’t foster care a govewrnment program..?
June 13, 2011 at 7:56 pm
“Good ole Rush. It’s women’s fault that male politicians get into sex scandals. Well played, sir.”
Not women in general, LIBERAL women.
Al does make a great point, only a lefty can call a group who’s favorite son is black, racist.
Regarding Matthews, I didn’t say he was sexist because I don’t throw those terms around as loosely as some, BUT, if he were to apply the standards he uses to call someone “racist” (which is basically breathing and not voting for Obama), he’d label himself the most sexist person in the history of TV. And so would you, Joe.
June 13, 2011 at 7:58 pm
If Bachmann gets close to the Republican nomination, the media will destroy her. By general election day the narrative will be that she used her foster children as slaves or something. They will not allow a female conservative to become President. Have no fear, Joe.
June 13, 2011 at 7:59 pm
And so would you, Joe.
You left out “AND YOU KNOW IT!”
June 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Liberal women don’t cause men to chase other women, but thanks for blaming the wife for Weiner’s behavior, Rushbo.
Repeat after me: Men are inherently horny and stupid! This is not news!
June 13, 2011 at 8:04 pm
-favourite son-
Mr. Cain may remain the Tea Party’s favourite son, but I think a smart lady caught their eyes tonight.
June 13, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I haven’t listened to or read about what Rush said, but I strongly suspect it’s another one of those occasions where he’s mocking someone else… say, Barbara Walters?
June 13, 2011 at 8:17 pm
The extended clip on The Ed Show had Rush claiming that “the feminists” have “demasculinized” men, and they somehow act out by screwing around. Something like that. It didn’t sound like a play on what someone else said.
I realize “Feminazis” is an old standby for His Rushness, but blaming women for male sex scandals is ridiculous.
In other news, he apologized! Good for him:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-business-eric-bolling-apologizes-for-hoods-in-the-hizzouse-remarks-about-president-obama/
June 13, 2011 at 8:19 pm
The extended clip on The Ed Show had Rush claiming that “the feminists” have “demasculinized” men, and they somehow act out by screwing around. Something like that. It didn’t sound like a play on what someone else said.
I realize “Femin@zis” is an old standby for His Rushness, but blaming women for male sex scandals is ridiculous.
In other news, he apologized! Good for him:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-business-eric-bolling-apologizes-for-hoods-in-the-hizzouse-remarks-about-president-obama/
June 13, 2011 at 8:38 pm
- Rush
I haven’t listened yet, but the transcript sounds fairly typical of a lot of his stuff, lately. He goes off on tangents. He starts-out with something that makes sense, but it develops and devolves over a period-of-time. Beck influence, perhaps, or maybe he was always that way. It’s getting old, in any case.
June 13, 2011 at 8:42 pm
BTW, I wasn’t necessarily defending Rush, I just wanted you to get the quote accurate. But, lets face it, liberal women do cause all sorts of problems. That’s why I married a conservative! And, I haven’t texted dirty pictures to random chicks so once again, Rush is right!
June 13, 2011 at 8:45 pm
“Develops and devolves” is exactly how it sounded. It was a long clip, and the more he talked, the more layers of weird he piled on his original premise. At any rate, any premise that ends with “the feminists made me do it” tells me Rush is workng up a potential future alibi..
June 13, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Read the Bolling thing on yahoo and they also said this:
“The Fox Business network attracted additional racial controversy last week, when the Fox Business host John Stossel staged a mock debate in which Obama impersonator Reggie Brown pretended to debate former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, a candidate for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination.”
How the F#@% is that racist? You can’t impersonate the POTUS without being “racial”? I really hate people sometimes. But, it passes.
June 13, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I just wanted you to get the quote accurate.</I.
Well, Mr. Accuracy, the extended quote included "women" quite a few times without the "liberal" adjective. So there.
But you're right; conservative woman never cause any problems.
June 13, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Love that HTML..
June 13, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Uh..”racial controversy” is having a white guy play Obama on SNL. That is one stupid story.
June 13, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Leno:
“… the big Republican debate on CNN – or, as they say, ‘The bland leading the bland.’ Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson lashed out at CNN as elitist for not allowing him to participate.” “According to Johnson, CNN robbed him of the opportunity to reach literally dozens of viewers.”
June 13, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Dude, I’m pretty sure that guy ain’t white.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667699/
If anything, he may be of a mixed race…like OBAMA.
June 13, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Dude, I didn’t follow the story closely enough to know what his nationality is. They darken his skin for the gig, which brought up controversy about “blackface”. It died down about the time everybody realized it didn’t matter who played him, Obana is not funny.
June 13, 2011 at 9:10 pm
What’s wrong with a white guy impersonating Obama? Of the cast, Fred Armisen would seem the likely choice and he performs it… spoofingly well.
June 13, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Wait, I’m talking about Armisen, not Brown. Oh who flippin cares..
June 13, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Black guy playing Obama is racist. White guy playing Obama is racist. Just admit that anything other than slobbering over Obama is racist.
If instead of the MSM being liberal, it were conservative. And if Palin weren’t a white conservative but a black liberal, just how racist would the digging through of her e-mails be?
“They’ve never done that to a white candidate”. “They can’t stand a black person having that much power”. “They treat her like a 2nd class citizen”. It’s so easy.
It’s about politics, not skin color.
June 13, 2011 at 9:20 pm
LS, you can’t follow a conversation that mentions race to save your life. You’re completely off the rails.
June 13, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Even CNN was fooled:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg-gaygirl-20110614,0,2236395.column?track=rss
June 13, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Even CNN was fooled:
http://lat.ms/lQHHgc
June 13, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Even CNN was fooled:
I saw that on msnbc.com a week ago. It had a “too convenient” feel to it: “Brave, liberal, hot lesbian disappears. What awful things could be happening to her?”
I can’t say I immediately dismissed it as a hoax, but it had that “pretty girl goes missing” feel to it that American news loves to focus on, and placing it in Syria seemed a little…suspect..
June 14, 2011 at 10:22 am
Perhaps if ‘news judgment’ was in no way related to the Budweiser Scale, it would help.
June 14, 2011 at 11:21 am
We (usual suspects excepted) all blasted Eric Bolling the other day but it needs to be noted that he gave an apology yesterday for his racially-loaded criticism of Obama and the invitation to the Gabonese president.
He said (on air): “One editorial note: On Friday, we did a story about the President meeting with the President of Gabon. We got a little bit fast and loose with the language, and we know it’s been interpreted as being disrespectful, and for that, I’m sorry. We did go a bit too far.”
“It’s been interpreted” is a little weasely but the “we did go a bit too far” sort of covers for it.
Good for him.
June 14, 2011 at 11:32 am
It needs to be noted that I noted it last night.
June 14, 2011 at 11:34 am
Yeah, but nobody takes your posts seriously.
June 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm
The American lesbian blogger who unmasked a Syrian lesbian blogger as a middle-age white male is herself, er, himself, a middle-aged white male.
The lesson is: It takes one to know one?
Really, you can’t make stuff like this up.