FNC Covers MSNBC and Pat Buchanan…
(video via J$)
Greg Jarrett talks with Liz Trotta about MSNBC and Pat Buchanan. Whatever points Trotta makes are undercut and negated when she calls MSNBC a network that is almost a “communist news channel”. And Jarrett himself has to pull Trotta back from over the cliff she tries to jump off of by citing Chris Jansing as an example of not everyone at the network residing in the Progressive reservation (or I guess in Trotta’s case a “communist reservation”). Of course Jarrett and Jansing worked together for years so he would know.
This could have been an interesting segment but Jarrett needed someone more grounded in reality than a cold war era bomb thrower like Trotta to make it work. There are people that appear on cable news who really have no reason to be there other than because they’re connected. Donny Deutsch at MSNBC is one. Trotta is another. You sit there watching and saying to yourself, “Why is this person on TV? They bring nothing to the table.”
January 14, 2012 at 6:45 pm
And there’s the requisite leading question from Jarrett, i.e. “Is there a double-standard?”. Well, of course there is, so why even ask?
January 14, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Trotta seemed stumped that you can’t say whatever the hell you want without your employer maybe not being thrilled with it.
January 14, 2012 at 6:55 pm
And there’s the requisite leading question from Jarrett, i.e. “Is there a double-standard?”.
Actually, that’s a textbook example of a non-leading question. Leading would be: “There’s a double standard, isn’t there?”
January 14, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Then how about ‘the question that answers itself’? How about ‘the question that’s asked about five-times-a-day on Fox’?
January 14, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Who really is a communist today? Lenin is revered by no one. Karl Marx has less of a following than Groucho, Harpo, and Chico. China is held together by the economics of capitalism. Even Cuba is taking little steps to it.
So, where is Larry going with this you ask?
Well… here it comes.
If there are no real communists, then why not use the term to describe a liberal extreme as Trotta did? A bit like describing Ron Paul followers as lemmings. We know they are not really lemmings, but they are lemming-like. And what fun to piss them off.
January 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Well sure, if you’re comfortable being called a fascist, then have at it. Fascist.
January 14, 2012 at 8:38 pm
Jerk. Goofball. Next!
January 14, 2012 at 8:41 pm
I like Liz Trotta. Her “I’m older and mean and I don’t care” persona cracks me up.
January 14, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Me too, actually. She might occasionally say some of the same crap as Tantaros, but at least she has some cred to back-it-up.
January 14, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Forgive my ignorance, but what was it again that Pat Buchanan is suspended, or not suspended for? Do they just hate his political views, or was it some book he read?
I remember his health being discussed, but people here seemed to rule that out.
January 14, 2012 at 8:50 pm
“book he WROTE”, not read. Althought with MSNBC, who knows?
January 14, 2012 at 8:57 pm
It’s the book. Stuff about the white race under threat. Also known as “yeah, that was a pretty stupid thing to publish, you idiot”.
January 14, 2012 at 9:08 pm
he yelled, “fire me!” in a liberal theater.
So MSNBC tosses out clever, funny, and historical political insights, yet keeps the “Republicans ate the pie” guy. I could cry.
January 14, 2012 at 9:33 pm
For the record, I don’t think Murdoch and Ailes would have been pleased, either. Talking about “changing demographics” is one thing. “Threat to the white man” is quite another.
January 14, 2012 at 9:38 pm
I saw this live. I really don’t know why she threw in the communist line, but it seemed like an offhand sarcastic hit at msnbc for its newfound progressive identity.
The comparison to Donny D is unfair. Nothing that he’s done in life qualifies him to comment of politics outside outside of the commercials. Liz is an accomplished journalist, and she should know a thing or two about communists having covered the Vietnam war.
January 14, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I saw it live, too. Trotta does “bitter offhand comment” well. I seem to recall one about Sarah Palin that was pretty amusing. That extra look of disgust Liz throws in is priceless.
January 14, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Still learning how to type on my phone it seems.
January 14, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Hey Josh, dontcha love how the phone decides you really meant ‘of’ when you typed ‘on’?
January 14, 2012 at 10:17 pm
My phone doesn’t pick up Texas speak too well. I’m constantly adding new words to the dictionary.
January 14, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I’ve added a few words to the dictionary that..ahem..show up at bad times. I’m always double-checking to make sure they don’t slip through..
January 15, 2012 at 8:59 am
Droid spell-fixer + my Brit spelling = me somehow txting a…. ummm.. compliment to my sister about her chest.
January 15, 2012 at 10:42 am
@lonestar: Go Texans!
January 15, 2012 at 11:04 am
Loardy!
January 15, 2012 at 11:07 am
I feel so left out with a phone that lets me spell any damn way I want to, and a font that’s too small. Good thing I don’t post with it.
January 15, 2012 at 1:12 pm
As I been saying how can MSNBC with a straight face say their removing Buchanan because of concerns of his views on race but keep AL Sharpton whose own history of racism includes getting people killed in riots he started?
January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm
Same way that Sharpten can say with a straight face, “Republicans ate the pie”. MSNBC is an Obama cheering squad with reporting, staffing, and analysis structured to that purpose. And, if truth were know, I bet there were few pies at the Sharpton house but plenty of Hostess products.
January 15, 2012 at 8:44 pm
I don’t know why this is so hard for y’all to understand. Both Sharpton’s and Buchanan’s Crazy were in the past. Your average MSNBC viewer knew little or nothing about it. Pat wrote a book last year with a chapter titled The End of White America. That’s present-tense Crazy. He brought this on himself.
January 15, 2012 at 9:56 pm
the U.S. census has a End of White America conclusion. Don’t know why y’all say we need to have a discussion on Race and then are willing to throw Pat out in the trash for a Chapter Title regardless of what’s in the Chaper? That’s Joe McCarthy stuff.
January 15, 2012 at 10:03 pm
**Let’s have a discussion on race.
Okay, black people are still discriminated against some and bron don’t get respect they deserve.
**That’s good, anything else?
Yes, I believe children are our future and don’t care if they are white, black, brown, yellow or purple.
**More?
No, that’s about it. Don’t want no trouble.
**That was a good discussion; let’s have another sometime.
January 16, 2012 at 5:46 am
Joe, I asked a simple analytical question of you and now you’re calling me Hitler.
If minority underperformance and excessive drain on the economy is an issue, then let’s address it. But no; we can’t POSSIBLY blame the “underclass” for anything, because after all, they should be given unlimited resources without question. Let the majority continue to be bled dry and to bail them out at every turn.
Buchanan sounds as if he’s saying that if the producing class is not around to generate money, where will the underclass get their money from? Sounds like a simple economic question. But if you want to make it racial, fine; I’m sure MSNBC would welcome your analysis.
January 16, 2012 at 7:27 am
To be fair to Liz Trotta, saying MSNBC is similar to communists is nothing compared to joking about killing Obama back in 2008. She will always be remembered for that. Then again, to her credit, she also lamented the hell out of Sarah Palin when she quit as Governor. She has her good days and bad.
January 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm
I didn’t call you Hitler, Missy. I said that Buchanan is using the same tactic: Single out a particular group as A Threat. It’s racist.