Blogus Interruptus…

Flying to an undisclosed tropical location…unfortunately the same undisclosed tropical location as last year. This time, however, snorkels will be in jeopardy. Remember to kill each other behave yourselves in the comments while I’m away. Blogging resumes May 10th. Sooner if Keith Olbermann lands a new gig…

Note to Ariens: Sorry to dissapoint but you only get the latest chapter in the saga of Spud’s snorkel when it’s a dedicated dive trip…

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319 Responses to “Blogus Interruptus…”

  1. I just somehow flashed on the idea of having a “dive” interrupted by Keith Olbermann. It wasn’t a pretty picture.

  2. I’ll be on my best behavior. ProgLib, step into my parlor. I have a cookie for you.
    And I don’t understand going someplace to watch fish and not eat them?

  3. fritz3 Says:

    Mitt Romney’s continues to be a gaffe machine. His comment that ‘even Jimmy Carter would have made the decision to send in the seals to get OBL’ was stupid on a number of levels.

    First Carter was a sub commander in the navy and later helped dismantlement of a nuclear reactor in Canada.that had a partially meltdown. Romney never served a day getting a number of deferments before drawing a high number in the draft in (1970?).

    Carter actually made the hard decision to authorize a rescue mission in Iran that went bad (through no fault of his decision) and has been blamed for its failure by many Republicans ever sense.

    If you look at Romney’s history of decision making and past statements on the subject it seems to me he would have followed the guidance of his ‘commanders in the field’ and gone with drone attacks (which they were advocating) over the far more risky use of navy seals (which they were opposed to using).

    Even given this I feel this whole story; on both sides; falls into the made up story category that Chuck Todd and others tell us will fill cable news shows for the next few months.

  4. For President Obama to make this former Olbermann head-nodder “queezy” shows what a liar “there are no red States; there are no blue States” turned out to be:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-obama-campaigner-in-chief/2012/04/30/gIQATAfbsT_story.html?hpid=z5

  5. Mitt Romney’s *what* continues to be a gaffe machine, Fritz?

  6. fritz3 Says:

    “Mitt Romney’s *what* continues to be a gaffe machine, Fritz?”

    ^^Sorry BW’s. It should read Mitt Romney continues etc. or Mitt Romney’s mouth continues etc. You can choose. ;-)

  7. Larry Sabato ‏ @LarrySabato
    “Forward” was once a centrist slogan. Oft-used in ’60s & ’70s by Ds: “Not Left. Not Right. Forward.”

  8. Cooler temps. Imagine that. Click over to the link about evolution, while you’re at it.
    http://io9.com/5906413/our-sun-could-soon-have-four-poles
    ————
    Since you asked.
    Jake Tapper ‏ @jaketapper
    dear geniuses: i did not actually write any jokes for @JimmyKimmel. he was, in fact, joking. -end of transmission-

  9. Oh Joe, Happy May Day to you and your “wicked cool” neighborhood pals:
    http://news.yahoo.com/may-day-eve-quickly-turns-ugly-san-francisco-091023433.html

  10. You know I bailed on OWS months ago, Sparky.

  11. I know, but some things are so tempting, it’s worth being an ahole.

  12. ^ Idiotsky McMoronic.

  13. lonestar77 Says:

    Drinking game for today (because of all the Bin Laden controversy). Have to take a drink every time Chris Matthews says “he’s not one of us”, “he’s foreign”, “tribal”, “birterism”. Double shot for “grand wizard”.

    I’d play but I get sick watching him these days without the liquor.

  14. This has been a fascinating few days. I said last week that every time the right complains about Obama boasting that he killed Bin Laden, all anyone hears is “Obama killed Bin Laden”. They went all in with it on the Sunday shows anyway, and now look: The Presaident is giving them what they want in Afghanistan, while Romney looks like an idiot for yammering about foreign policy decisions he has no understanding of. Well played, people.

  15. To be honest, I was a little queezy about the ad with Clinton talking about Bin Laden, but knew the Republicans were on a suicide mission attacking it. Did Obama just get lucky, or did Bill tell him they wouldn’t be able to resist freaking out over it, with the trap snapping shut on them today? This smells like Clinton, with a heavy dose of Morris-think.

  16. Me thinks you’re doing your own Mission Accomplished victory dance based on your typical wishful thinking. My opinion is Inependents think Obama is being a jerk and that reduces is so-called likability, which I got over along time ago.

  17. Me thinks you have a problem with political analysis that doesn’t fit your wishes.

  18. erich500 Says:

    It was smart for the President to “connect” the anniversary of the Bin Laden death with an announcement of our withdrawal from Afghanistan. And to personally visit the place. Very presidential looking. Instead of it appearing to be solely a football spike he was able to pivot the action to a larger policy that has overwhelming support by the public.

    He has to be careful not to overplay his hand here; but it was a smart move to shift the storyline from Bin Laden to Afghanistan. That puts Romney on the defensive. Obama looks big; Romney looks small.

    Smart politically. In terms of public policy it’s anyone’s guess (i.e., the Pentagon report on our “mixed” progress there).

  19. As for the actual policy, I’m frustrated. Part of me thinks it
    s crazy to stay in Afghansistan, whihe another part acknowledges that the Taliban could swoop back in and rebuild if we bail. Which means my ability to say what Obama should do is about as good as Romney’s..

  20. erich500 Says:

    ^Well, the experts tells us – and it makes sense – that unless Pakistan goes along with our policy we simply won’t be able to stabilize Afghanistan.

    And Pakistan is more worried (fanatically so) about India than a Taliban-radicalized Afghan government. They don’t want a Afghan-India alliance. It’s in their interest – or the hardliners there – that Afghanistan not become a stable, pro-west, pro-India nation.

  21. erich500 Says:

    Man, when you see Air Force One landing somewhere and the President striding down the steps you feel mighty proud. I don’t care who the President is, you have to pull for the guy.

    It’s a nasty world out there and my President – Obama, Bush, whomever – needs me behind him.

    Period.

  22. I think Obama’s Afgahnistan plans sound about as reasonable as anyone could come up with. Are they the right plans? As Yoda would say, “Clouded, the future is”. 2024 is but one year from a really rotten song.

  23. Hey, don’t mess with Zager & Evans.

  24. Brett Baier on the big Fox network, I assume because Shep is on his FNC show.

    Having a political ad mildly boasting about taking out bin Laden was a good idea. Having President Clinton in the ad being the cheerleader for it was a good idea on several levels – only hard-core partisans care that he passed on opportunities to take out bin Laden and everyone else knows that was before 9/11. Going after Romeny in the ad went too far and that hurts the Obama campaign with independents.

    Had they omitted the Romney criticism then the ad would have gotten them 95% of the effect they wanted and without any negative repercussions whatsoever. “Classy” counts.

  25. erich500 Says:

    Well, I don’t get the Clinton role in the ad at all. What’s the benefit? Who does it appeal to?

    Just a payback for him campaigning for you?

  26. People still love Clinton (Bill, that is) and Obama wants to bask in his reflected glory. Obama helped pay off the old bag’s campaign debts, so Bill did him a favor with this ad.

  27. Clinton is pretty popular these days. Showing unity is good.

    I hope Joe isn’t a fan of “Seasons in the Sun”.

  28. erich500 Says:

    ^^…old bag….”Seasons in the Sun”….

    There ya go: Boogie and LK with some sophisticated political analysis right there.

  29. Remnant anarchists of last year’s Occupy Cleveland tried to blow up a bridge about 20 miles from my home today. Claiming it would cost “Wall Street business types big time”, they entered the codes to detonate believed C4 explosives attached to two pillars of the heavy trafficked bridge. Fortunately an FBI informant was their supplier. You reap what you sow.

  30. Seasons In The Sun – Terry Jacks

    I loved that song as a kid. God it’s awful.

  31. I used to like Debbie Boone, but the child gets bonus-points for speed in muting that commercial.

  32. Whatever baggage Bill Clinton carries, it’s already properly stowed in the minds of the average, not-too-partisan voters. People also know him to be a close friend of both Presidents Bush, which adds a little… gravitas to his endorsement beyond being a former POTUS. Whether it’s rightly or wrongly attributed to him, most of us remember the 90s as being a prosperous time and that association can transmit even when he’s talking foreign and military policy. None of this works in an attack ad, however, so criticising Romney went a whopper of a step too far.

  33. None of this works in an attack ad, however, so criticising Romney went a whopper of a step too far.

    This is only true if you assume Independents are on the fence between Obama and Romney. This is not a safe assumption after the ridiculous “severely conservative” primary circus Mitt just came through.

  34. ^^…old bag….”

    Yeah, we could do without that crap.

  35. Independents pay little attention to primaries and fewer still remember them.

    I have lots of daughters and all of them are on my wireless plan. They’ve now played that “weeping” Mother’s Day commercial on the telly enough to tick me off so they aren’t going to sell any Droid Razrs to anyone in this family.

  36. Independents pay little attention to primaries and fewer still remember them.

    That’s what ad campaigns, cable news, and YouTube are for. All the crap you said in the primaries gets received fresh and whole by Independents in October. On an endless loop.

  37. Besides, the meme that ran on all of the news networks throughout the primary campaign was that Romney wasn’t conservative enough to get the Repub nomination. Your premise is false.

  38. lonestar77 Says:

    Bringing Romney up in the ad was disgusting and amateurish. There’s a reason why people on all sides are speaking out. There’s a reason why SEALS are speaking out. For Obama, everything its about him. He has to hold record for most use of “I” by a potus. I’m starting to think he believes he killed obl with nothing but his own set of presidential nun chucks.

  39. It bothers me how much we’ve been told about the Navy Seals who conducted the op. The less that’s known about hem the better.

    Still, my favourite tidbit was from the guy who got the assignment of creating Seal Team Six. He said his first order of duty was to give it a name. With teams “One” and “Two” already in place, calling it “Six” would make the Russians spend a whole lot of energy trying to figure out what teams “Three”, “Four”, and “Five” were up to.

  40. The problem for Romney is he needs the conservative vote – which doesn’t trust that he’s conservative – and the moderate vote, which doesn’t trust he’ll ever get out of the grasp of the far right wing as President. Which leaves the “anyone but Obama” vote. There simply aren’t enough out there.

  41. Last I checked, “moderates” tend more to the right than to the left and also tend to be apolitical. It’s the partisans who latch on to “far right” or “far left” talk. Conservatives always vote and don’t need to be “energised” to get themselves to the polls.

  42. And you think slightly right-leanibg Independents are gonna trust that Romney isn’t the conservative he insists he is? It’s not gonna happen, and I don’t agree that the entire conservative base will come out to make up for it.

  43. I think Obama didn’t win in ’08 because he’s a liberal and I think he’ll likely lose this go-round because he is. Romney is looking better and better every day.

  44. The status quo for the moment is one war down, one apparently in measured hands, bin Laden dead, Al Qaeda being droned to smithereens, and economic indicators stabilizing. Moderates aren’t going to vote against that for a guy who has constant short-term memory loss for every damn thing he’s ever said.

  45. The best American war engagement ever was Operation Desert Storm, Jan – Feb 1991 and Bush ’41 lost his re-election bid the following year. Economic indicators have stabilised for rich people but for everyone else this 2% growth rate simply isn’t going to cut it. Worse, this administration and the Dem-controlled senate refuse to get serious about the deficit spending and that cliff is coming real soon.

  46. erich500 Says:

    This economy is still an anchor around Obama. The question is whether he has enough ballast elsewhere to overcome it.

    And moderates/independents (people like me) don’t like the class warfare and other divisiveness from this White House. We don’t like the use of wedge issues by Republicans and we don’t like class divisions by Democrats either.

    Attacking Wall Street is one thing; attacking successful people who had nothing to do with the financial collapse is another.

  47. lonestar77 Says:

    Also with George H.W., I believe the economy had already begun turning around at election time. But, he had to deal with Clinton who played the saxophone.

  48. Jack O’Brien ‏ @TheJackOBrien
    Would someone slap these crying Verizon women?
    Retweeted by Politisite

  49. Bush 41 lost because he wasn’t conservative enough. “Read my lips…” and along comes Ross Perot. Clinton was too liberal and so the Dems took an historic beating in the ’94 mid-term but he got the message, said so, and then took many Repub initiatives as his own to handily win re-election.

  50. lonestar77 Says:

    Fun fact. Clinton never got 50% of the popular vote. He’s the only 2-termer that I know of that can claim that stat.

  51. A series of Democrats have failed to answer O’Reilly about why it’s ok to jab Romney about Bin Laden. Pay attention. Every day Mitt incorporates these words into his stump speech: Obama apologizes for America, Obama is weak on foreign policy.

    You have to answer egregious crap like that. The WH knows Romney is a cutthroaght, nasty campaigner who will say and do whatever it takes to win. They’re not taking any chances.

  52. ^^ The complete fun fact on that involves Mr. Ross Perot. In ’92 he took enough votes from the sitting president to hand Clinton a victory and in ’96 enough to reduce the incumbent’s popular vote tally to just shy of 50%.

  53. - cutthroat -

    I see nothing wrong with using such violent wording in our political discourse. There’s nothing wrong with using gun target imagery, either.

  54. Ross Perot. That was back when insane billionaire presidential candidates made sense.

  55. lonestar77 Says:

    Joe:
    Obama’s foreign policy has been pretty weak. He approved an order to get Bin Laden, good for him and good for us. But, the world is farked up and he’s done nothing to fix it even though he campaigned saying that all the world’s problems were the fault of GWB. Well, the same problems are still there and worse in most instances. Fail.

  56. I see nothing wrong with using such violent wording in our political discourse. There’s nothing wrong with using gun target imagery, either.

    We..that was a thoughtful response to a relevant cable news comment.

  57. The way Obama goes on about it, you’d think he flew the helicopter into the compound, hunted down bin laden, and shot him all by himself. So much for not spiking that football… as if Obama ever played team sports.

  58. imnotblue Says:

    Well Joe has convinced me! Nobody is going to vote for Romney. Conservatives don’t trust him, Moderates think he’s too far right. The only people he gets are going to be related to him… and that’s probably because they’re cultish Mormons (haw haw).

    And it doesn’t matter that there is not evidence to support any of that, and recent polls refute exactly all of that… but that’s what’s going to happen. Because it is.

    Ugh.

  59. Obama played basketball. The only good thing his skunk of a father did was give him a basketball at age ten. When news arrive the father died in a car crash, Barack claims he felt nothing. The grandparents who raised and doted over him were there to watch him play.

  60. Blue, polls are meaningless this far out. Any political analysis I offer up is simply my hunch of how things are going to go down. Maybe I’m right, maybe I’m not..try not to have a cow.

    Oh btw, I said in ’08 that the Palin choice robbed McCain of his strongest card against Obama, experience, by putting her inexperience and lack of gravitas a heartbeat away fron the Presidency. Hey, it was just a hunch..

  61. Palin was the only thing that kept the McCain campaign from collapsing with the collapsing economy and his stupid “suspend my campaign” theatrics. I witnessed October crowds in Ohio go nuts for her appearance that had no interest in him. As it were. the golden hope and change huckster only won by 53%.

  62. Did anyone watch MSNBC last night to see if they heralded OWS’s attempted return from hibernation? They were such proponents of the movement last fall.
    http://e.dailycaller-alerts.com/l.jsp?d=834.6297710.1248.8P6NOY7tS4DerTyKGeCymSw..A

  63. A screaming crowd of hard-righties does not a general election make. The selection of Palin was an insult to everyone else.

  64. Oh, stifle yourself, Edith.

  65. You don’t have hard righties in Canton, Ohio — moron idiot Oakland boy.

  66. McCain lost because of the economy, Bush, and McCain. Palin saved him from total embarrassment. The fact that libs have fits over her is a bonus.

  67. I’m guessing the hard righties who made it to Canton would resent that. The rest who just showed up to see Pretty Celebrity Starpower Girl probably wouldn’t care.

  68. You know nothing about Ohio. The Akron-Canton area is a mixture of rust belt industries, emerging technologies & higher education, and some of the most beautiful and productive farm land in the USA. It wasn’t far righties that came out for her here, idiot. It was middle Americans excited about someone they felt held their values including not aborting a special needs child.

  69. lonestar77 Says:

    “moron idiot Oakland boy.”

    That made me laugh.

    Canton – HOF – that’s all I know about the place.

  70. McCain lost, in large part, because he refused to do a full-on campaign against Obama. He didn’t want to be seen as the old white guy who stood in the way of the first black president.

  71. Rightwing blog time. You kids go ahead and yammer on about your theories about why McCain lost, and who lives in Ohio. I stand by my opinion that Romney is screwed in Nov. for having no principles or character. Tootles.

  72. Tootles? I probably don’t want to know.

  73. It translates roughly into “Back in 20 minutes..”

  74. savefarris Says:

    Theoretically, the ‘no principals’ argument could work against Romney. However, is there anyone less qualified to deploy it than Mr. Dog-Eater himself?

    * “I will close Guantanamo”
    * “What I’ve proposed is a net spending cut”
    * “If you like your health plan, you can keep it”
    * “We will create 4 million new jobs.”
    * “I will not run up $4 trillion in new debt (over 8 years)”
    * “We will not spike the football”

  75. * “I will not accept a health care plan that will add one dime to the deficit”.

  76. carolmr Says:

    Sad: Taliban kills 7 in Kabul only two hours after President Obama leaves Afghanistan.

  77. icemannyr Says:

    MSNBC is using the tacky “BREAKING NEWT” text on the left of the lower third graphic as Newt Gingrich suspends his campaign.
    Lame Bashir, very lame.

  78. carolmr Says:

    I wonder why Dan Rather reneged on O’Reilly the other night but appeared on MJ this morning?

  79. erich500 Says:

    “I didn’t know this was possible, outside of sub-Saharan Africa”

    I believe I actually saw oil leaking from her left ear during that interview.

    My favorite part: “Do you think maybe you tan too much…..?

    “No, I don’t think so….”

    No? No? You have rust forming on your face and oil leaking from your pores. You actually creak when you walk and when you go through airports the screeners actually explode when you walk through them.

    But you don’t think it’s a bit too much tanning?

    Man…

  80. Goodbye Newt. Go away.

  81. Dan Rather is a sick man. I’m betting Client #9 gets better ratings these days.

  82. When do liberals officially become tired of painting Obama as a victim of racism? Grow the hell up.
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/star-jones-rips-karl-roves-anti-obama-ad-hes-attempting-to-paint-obama-as-an-other/

  83. because liberals have no honor

  84. This is more honorable if you single out specific liberals, instead of using stupid sweeping generalizations. It’s Star Jones, for God’s sake.

  85. Correction: people named “Star” have no honor.

  86. At some point, it stops being an isolated incident. That point was about three years ago.

  87. Keep it up.

  88. lonestar77 Says:

    Give the left credit for continuing to invent new ways to claim racism. Obama is a bad President. Black, white, it doesn’t matter. He just isn’t very good at his job. He wasn’t anywhere near ready to President and it shows.

  89. Here, on the other hand, is the real Fox Mole. Powers, that is. Hannity loves to have these marginal characters on, and they never get questioned.
    ,http://www.mediaite.com/tv/kirsten-powers-hijacks-hannity-panel-to-confront-rev-jesse-lee-peterson-about-his-misogynist-sermons/

  90. Today’s stupid rightwing meme is that Obama “compressed” some characters (girlfriends) in his autobiography. This is a common tactic intended to protect identities and eliminate tedious repetition of rather mundane stories. The idiots at Drudge and Politico failed to notice this was explained in the introduction of EVERY COPY EVER PRINTED.

  91. But now I want to know what else was compresed? Dog-eating? More than one time? More than one dog? More than one dog at a time? Cat Chow Mein?

  92. lonestar77 Says:

    “This is a common tactic intended to protect identities and eliminate tedious repetition of rather mundane stories.”

    In an auto-biographical, obviously non-fiction book?

    I really don’t care about the story but I wouldn’t think that that would be standard in an auto-biography.

  93. erich500 Says:

    ^Good point but that wasn’t really an autobiography. It was a resume enhancer for the job of the presidency.

    Obama’s been running for that office for a long, long time. Nothing wrong with that; but it does make me look at his actions quite differently.

    Ambition is good; cynicism in the advancement of that is not so hot. Even in politics there are limits.

    Mr. Obama can be very cynical on occasion. Too cynical at times.

  94. I’m watching CURRENT and it’s pretty much an MSNBC knockoff. MSNBC’s graphics, MSNBC-type programming.

  95. Actually, it’s a memoir, not an autobiography. Yes, the compression stuff is common in a memoir, which is considered more of a storytelling style of writing than a straight autobiography. There is much controversy in Book World about it, but to pretend Obama did something unusual – and didn’t state ahead of time what he was doing – is blatantly false.

  96. erich500 Says:

    Only petty people are making anything of what he did. We have them on all sides. The tribalism of politics and all that. My guy does it, it’s okay; your guys does it and it’s an outrage.

    It’s silly.

  97. Is there someone who wants to hear about all of Obama’s girlfriends?

  98. ^ The girl makes an excellent point.

  99. erich500 Says:

    “Is there someone who wants to hear about all of Obama’s girlfriends?”

    Chris Matthews.

    Thanks for the setup.

  100. erich500 Says:

    ^And perhaps Michelle?

    Although when I tell my wife about my past romantic life she starts to laugh hysterically.

    I mean hysterical.

    Really embarassing.

  101. Another sacrificial lamb.

  102. Well that’s different. The edit makes Martin seem threatening, which would bolster the idea that Zimmerman was right to be suspicious. Thanks, Latino reporter. Geez.

  103. Compression of Clinton’s girlfriends is the rumored cause of the big bang.

  104. lonestar77 Says:

    “Yes, the compression stuff is common in a memoir, ”

    Ok. I’ll take your word for it. But, that kind of stuff bothers me. Not necessarily in this context with this book because I don’t care about Obama’s gf’s. But, in general. It sounds like lying to me and I hate when people lie even about little stuff.

  105. I hear ya. An autobiography sounds like a chronicle of an interesting person’s life. “Memoir” reeks of “let’s all sit around and marvel at my deep thoughts”. Knock it down to 140 characters and meet me on Twitter..

  106. carolmr Says:

    “The idiots at Drudge and Politico failed to notice this was explained in the introduction of EVERY COPY EVER PRINTED.” – joeremi

    I think it was explained starting with the second printing, not the first.

  107. I read the book and liked doing so. Obama navigated a pretty weird life and is more critical of himself than you see him these days. There is much to admire of his mother’s parents though I seem to see that more than he. Not that he disses them, but it seemed they really sacrificed for him and did their best. As President, we don’t see any of his surviving family described in the book except the barely mentioned driving challenged Kenyan uncle.

    His time as a community organizer taught Obama a lot of skills, but he hardly accomplished anything worthwhile. Sound familiar?

  108. From Politico:

    CORRECTION: An earlier version of this blog post stated that Obama had acknowledged using composite characters in the reissue. In fact, Obama acknowledged the use of composite characters in the first edition of the book.

  109. “In an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast’s Melinda Liu, blind dissident Chen Guangcheng—whose daring escape from house arrest and subsequent refuge at the U.S. embassy in Beijing has sparked a tense debate during U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit—says he’s now been abandoned by American officials at a Chinese hospital and begs to leave the country on Clinton’s plane.” DAILY BEAST

    Now what, courageous OBL killer and 3 AM lady?

  110. OBL wasn’t toting the note.

  111. carolmr Says:

    “In fact, Obama acknowledged the use of composite characters in the first edition of the book.” – joeremi

    Thanks, Joe. In fact, I was reading the earlier version of the story at Politico.

  112. It’s cool, Carol. Politico and Drudge let that story catch a lot of air on Twitter before they finally figured out the truth. But it’s too late now, anyway. Volts blow up, and Obama deceived in a book without explaining it. That’s the way “truth” works amongst people happy to trumpet the lie.

  113. paminwi Says:

    You mean kinda like: George Zimmerman confronted Trayvon Martin? Or.. he stalked him him, profiled him, is a racist, or whatever other ” “truth” works amongst people happy to trumpet the lie. ”

    The sad part of the Obama issue is that Mike Allen of Politico did an article about the book and mentioned the compression issue. So… Politico didn’t even search their own archives for information much less search anywhere else for information before doing the article.

  114. Drudge doesn’t write stories, fool, he just provides headlines and links. Politico is something else. Bunch of reporters trying to be TV stars. No institutional history of traditions. Pretty much a group of Obama suck-ups with strong ties to MSNBC. Doesn’t keep them from grabbing a scoop though. By the time I saw their story, it had been updated to show all editions had the disclaimer.

  115. Though the use of composites wasn’t news, but the fact the NY girlfriend was a composite is news and colors the “angry black movie” story with a shade of gray.

  116. Jimmy Kimmel on “tanning lady”, “she looks like Wile E Coyote after the dynamite went off”.

  117. paminwi Says:

    Interesting read this morning re: “the girlfriend” and how she felt about him. Also an interesting Obama quote from her journal “Tim’s a trip, ain’t he,” I [Obama] said, shaking my head. “Should change his name from Tim to Tom.”

    http://www.althouse.blogspot.com/2012/05/who-is-this-woman.html

  118. Could have just meant to be funny. I’d hate to have casual things I say written down and thrown back at me. Be happy to have all traces of this blog erased in case I run for township trustee.

  119. carolmr Says:

    MSNBC made SUCH a mistake in getting rid of Pat Buchanan. He was on Hannity again last night and he was smokin’!

  120. They have leaned their way to a strident boredom. Most everthing unwatchable the the average person. I watched Hannity for the first time in weeks just because I saw Pat when flipping channels. Like same piece-o-crap like Bashir deserves a part in a dialog and Pat doesnt? Phill Griffen is an egg sucking dog.

  121. MSNBC careful to gloss over the contridictions of how blind refuge came to leave the embassy. Pretty much just give US side. Damage control.

  122. lonestar77 Says:

    GM makes a boatload of money, gets off the hook to a tune of $14,000,000,000 in taxes while the UAW is set to receive a huge payout in the form of profit sharing. And, that’s the way Obama rewards his friends.

  123. lonestar77 Says:

    With Cinco de Mayo just a couple days away, Elizabeth Warren is touting the fact that she’s 1/143 Mexican.

  124. erich500 Says:

    If you believe in affirmative action as I do and (generally speaking) multiculturalism then you have to be totally frosted at what Warren did.

    No one can defend that abuse of the system set up to include more minority voices. What type of Native American voice did she contribute? Did she promote Native American issues? Did she reach out to Native Americans to talk to them about legal issues confronting their community?

    There’s no evidence she did. If she did then I’ll retract this.

    What she did is a joke and any liberal who defends it is putting tribe over principle. No pun intended.

  125. lonestar77 Says:

    Thanks Farris. That’s the funniest farking thing I’ve seen in a looooong time.

  126. carolmr Says:

    Thanks, Farris. That’s hysterical!

  127. lonestar77 Says:

    Keep digging.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/warren-my-grandfather-had-high-cheekbones-all-indians-do_643103.html

    Cut from the clip was the part where she said “After I smoke a peace pipe, I can still shoot the fly off a buffalo’s a$$ with my bow & arrow like all them injuns”.

  128. Records now showing business startups in 2010 were at an all time low. Part of the Obama poisoning of the business soil that has kept job growth slow.

  129. John Roberts looks pretty good filling in on SPECIAL REPORT tonight.

  130. ^ His shirt was fabulous.

  131. savefarris Says:

    So we add 115,000 jobs at the same time we remove 342,000 people from the labor force.

    Change we can Believe In!!!

  132. paminwi Says:

    But, but, but, but – the EMPLOYMENT RATE WENT DOWN!!!! Just you wait and see that’s what will be all over the nightly news tonight! We must make the Bog “O” look good and that’s all you will hear from all the media today.

  133. paminwi Says:

    ooops s/b BIG “O”

  134. MSNBS, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, & PBS all now in full campaign mode to heighten the positives for Obama and dampen the negatives using all means possible, subtle and not-so. Visa-versa for Romney. They have been struggling this morning with employment and Chen stories. Chen is hard as liberal rights groups are of the mind the matter had been botched.

    Note: two years ago the buzz for “Recovery Summer” was starting to build. See if anyone but FNC brings that up.

  135. Debby Boone always looks like she just had gum surgery, not a Lifestyle Lift.

  136. savefarris Says:

    In other news…

    Avengers lives up to the hype
    but…
    July 20th can’t get here fast enough!

  137. MEDIA BIAS!!

  138. I will go see The Avengers next week at a matinee with seniors discount, and bore the other old people with stories of reading the Hulk, Iron Man, and Thor comicbooks when first issued. No, I can’t say the same about Capt’n America.

  139. Wonder if Spud is paying any attention? I hear when he was a boy his mom sent him to school in a little sailor suit.

  140. lonestar77 Says:

    Joe:
    Grab your lefty friends (Fritz, Elle – eh, Prog if you’re really desperate) and start a conversation. I’m bored.

  141. Part of The Avengers was filmed in Cleveland. Office workers in the downtown had fun gawking out their windows. 27 films have used my northeast Ohio location in the last three years. Tax breaks have been the key.

  142. Jonah Goldberg on Special Report tonight looks like he was dressed by Stevie Wonder.

  143. It is good. Sorry not to see much of Jeff Greenfield these days. Since I can’t reliably predict Ohio, my state, I’ll just wait for the black swan. If anyone thinks it will be the report fom Trump’s Hawaii investigators, don’t hold your breath, that’s a black turkey.

  144. fritz3 Says:

    Whoever is advising Romney is doing him a disservice. Over the last few days Mittens has made a number of unforced errors that show a total lack of basic knowledge of how the government works. Taken alone none are more than bad judgement or hyperbole but together they start to make him sound more like Newt Gingrich or Glenn Beck than a serious candidate for POTUS.

    Examples: Saying anyone including Jimmy Carter would have decided to use seals to take out OBL. It was a no brainer.

    Saying the Obama administration should be ashamed by there handling of the Chen affair when delicate negotiations are still going on and he has no knowledge of what is happening.

    Saying the US should be creating 500,000 jobs every month, and that he could do that, when there have been only a handful of months in US history where 500,000 jobs were created.

  145. 400,000 would have been a better choice according to David Brooks. That happens during the accelerated phase of a normal recession recovery.
    I agree with the other two points. Best tact would have been supportive comments.

  146. The dude shows a continued disregard for anything besides whatever suits his whim at the moment. “Well I’ll just say some crap about China in the middle of a delicate negotiation ’cause f***all.”

    I read somewhere that a venture capitalist-type like him separates his “real life” from “whatever’s necessary to get the job done”, which is how he picks apart a company and sends people packing, waltzing away with millions. It’s just part of the job, and you say and do whatever it takes to get it done. “It’s just business”.

    Mitt Romney has shown this scorched earth technique over and over again in his career. He may be a good husband and father, but he has no business in public service.

  147. “I read somewhere that a venture capitalist-type like him separates his “real life” from “whatever’s necessary to get the job done…”
    MORON IDIOT WEEKLY

  148. -Venture capitalists-
    As that name clearly describes, the business of venture capitalists is to provide the funding necessary for business ventures to become a profitable entity. Setting these businesses up for growth is always the preferred outcome, but they aren’t going to invest a single dime unless . Often-times there is no path to profitability for a company so, instead of letting its debt whither it away to total worthlessness, it is taken apart and its individual assets sold – a machine that once sat nearly idle is purchased by another company at a bargain price to become a new profit centre and job-provider.

    The purpose of all for-profit companies, of course, is to generate profits for its owners and investors. The jobs they create are merely a by-product of that.

    -waltzing away with millions-
    That’s a very good thing, of course. Those millions are reinvested into other ventures, not stuffed inside a mattress. There’s nothing “scorched Earth” about it and Mitt Romney has demonstrated over and over again true compassion along with an ability to “get the job done.”

  149. – Clinton never got 50% of the popular vote –

    I remember the first one, where some of the press was crediting him with an “electoral landslide”. That’s back when liberals were okay with the Electoral College.

  150. ^ hmm Steal from MSNBC, stop taping Coop, and fire the old farts (my personal favorite). Hardly strikes me as creative thinking.

  151. I liked the morning show idea. Though Al and Joe could do better than what they have.

  152. The Al and Joe show!

  153. Namecalling is encouraged!

  154. Living like I do in rual Appalachia, I can report that country stills have been replaced with meth labs. My neighbor is 800 acres of Wayne National Forrest, and I get startled often as low flying helicopters searching for weed pop out of the trees. Mostly cable news seems to just show big city drug problems, but they are everywhere.

  155. In an Oreo advertisement during Huckabee a woman tasting one exclaims, “Shut the front door!”

    Is that a euphemism for what I think it is?

  156. What the…front yard?!?

  157. Franklin Delano!!

  158. Barack Hussein!! Oh, sorry.. :oops:

  159. ^ ^^ ^^^ I’ll take that as a “yes”.

  160. Any other questions?

  161. “Shut the front door”
    More publicly acceptable and FCC-friendly version of S.T.F.U., originally coined by Buckethead on WJRR Radio.
    “You slept with your girlfriend’s sister and her mom? Shut the front door!”

    Commercial has been around for a while even though some too offense.

    and… RICHARD MILHOUS!

  162. Obama kicked off his campaign here in Ohio today. Embarassed by low turnout at huge Ohio State venue. Ohio has been graced with his presence 5 times this year. Our unemployement has dropped below the national average. Our Govenor has done some great things to make Ohio attractive to business and has regained popularity lost after he bludgeoned the public unions. Obama of course is taking credit.

  163. I’ll have to try “STFD” some time and see how it works. Though it sounds a bit like a psychological disorder, which might also be appropriate.

  164. For those who refuse to acknowledge the fix is in:
    http://thedc.com/IOiPRD

  165. Oh goodie, socialist wins France presidential election!

    The socialist candidate has promised to raise taxes on big corporations and people earning more than 1m euros a year to a tax rate of 75%.

    F. Hollande
    52%
    Projection
    N. Sarkozy
    48%

    He also wants to raise the minimum wage, hire 60,000 more teachers and lower the retirement age from 62 to 60 for some workers.

  166. carolmr Says:

    ^Larry, somehow I think Sarkozy’s loss will be bad news for us.

  167. Outsider Says:

    This Hollande guy apparently thinks immigration shouldn’t be cut when jobs are scarce. Immigration is good when you actually have jobs for immigrants. France is doomed. No one should be surprised when riots start up in France again.
    This, racists elected to the Greek Parliament, 25% jobless rate in Spain, the socialist Labour party making gains in the UK local elections, Europe is so doomed.

  168. Paul Krugman will find a way to explain why France still won’t be taxing and spending enough.

  169. Outsider Says:

    Do people still take Krugman seriously when it comes to that topic?

  170. fritz3 Says:

    “Do people still take Krugman seriously when it comes to that topic?”

    ^^ Yes.

  171. Leftist, liberal, progressive, socialist people.

  172. fritz3 Says:

    “Leftist, liberal, progressive, socialist people.”

    ^^Smart people.

  173. Joke (Headline) Of The Day: “Gingrich Addresses VP Question”

  174. imnotblue Says:

    If there’s one thing that unites left-wing people, it’s their unending ability to thing they’re better and smarter than everyone else.

    “Faith” may be a fair word to define far right folks, just as “ego” defines the far left.

  175. fritz3 Says:

    If there’s one thing that unites right-wing people, it’s their unending ability to thing they’re better and smarter than everyone else. ;-)

    “Compassion” may be a fair word to define far left folks, just as “greedy” defines the far right. ;-)

    ^^Tit for Tat!

  176. Romney/Gingrich ’12: What’s this about multiple wives?

  177. imnotblue Says:

    @ fritz

    I’m having trouble figuring out if you think that’s a reply, or an example.

    I really don’t want to play the “greedy” game (in which I point out all the allegedly non-greedy Liberals, who make that statement seem foolish).

    Do you disagree that Liberals often seem themselves as smarter and better than the rest? Maddow, Maher, Olbermann, and on and on don’t see people who agree with them as super smart, and make it clear thet think everyone else is dumb?

    Or are you only able to see them through rose colored glasses?

    *winking face* *smiley face* *other generic emoticon which adults shouldn’t be using since they’re adults*

  178. ^^When you use bumper stickers as comments you get mocked.

  179. Spud would love this if he were earning his blog money instead of goofing off:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/msnbc-sarkozy-prostitute-speaks-out-flub_n_1496254.html

  180. tit for tat
    tit for tat
    I preferred Fritz
    when he was
    a cat

  181. imnotblue Says:

    @ fritz

    What part was a bumper sticker? And with all the “smileys” you post who are you to complain?

    I suppose this is all just a way of dodging, rather than discussing. Sadly obvious.

  182. Everybody thinks they’re smart to think the way they do, and that people who think differently should smarten up and snap out of it. watch O’Reilly and Hannity and tell me they don’t act like they’re smarter than everybody. Which, in Hannity’s case, is hilarious.

  183. fritz3 Says:

    What’s to discuss? They’re cliche statements of supposed fact that only require the poster to fill in the blanks with the appropriate noun or adjective.

    They’re cute on one level but hardly worth debating when you can just change a word and alter them to make the same point for the other side. It’s just silly.

  184. erich500 Says:

    Some easily “excitable” person argues that President Obama should be tried for treason (the Constitution defines treason and Obama is about as guilty of it as my dog) and the clueless Romney just stands there and allows it to go unchallenged. What an oaf.

    There’s a way of responding to these types by showing that you’re above this type of lunacy.

    To be sure, Obama let this type of crapola go unchallenged when Bush or Rove et al. were the targets. Which just shows that we have two really shaky candidates for the presidency.

  185. erich500 Says:

    Remember the old Am. History 101 question? Compare and contrast the Jeffersonian democrats vs. the Jacksonian democrats?

    We’re still fighting that battle today (Jeffersonians believe that elites are needed to best represent the people and to protect their interests and are more pro government; Jacksonians believe in greater democracy and populist rule and are more pro business).

    Liberals = Jeffersonians, Conservatives = Jacksonians.

    This will be on the final.

  186. Show me an example where an audience member accused a Republican of being a traitor to Obama’s face, and he let it pass. It didn’t happen. These dumbass wingnuts have been shouting treason and foreigner and terrorist at this President with inpunity for four years. It’s madness. It’s bad for the country.

  187. erich500 Says:

    Lots of people said Bush lied us into war and committed treason. Not to mention knowing about 9/11 in advance.

    Obama never once knocked that down.

    And frankly Joe, you have little standing to lecture anyone about being a nut. You obviously can try but the ground beneath you will open up and swallow you whole.

    Sorry, that’s just laying it on the line.

  188. So..no example of Obama being directly addressed with this BS, huh? I didn’t think so.

  189. erich500 Says:

    No, I can’t cite a counter example when on a Tuesday at 3:30 p.m. on a partially cloudy day in a month ending without a “r” where someone told candidate Obama that Bush committed treason.

    Good catch, you got me there.

    If you think candidate and now president Obama has taken on the crazies in his party and their insane conspiracies and allegations against Bush et al. then you and I have been living on different planets.

  190. Let’s play a game. Imagine someone telling candidate Obama that John McCain should be tried for treason. Now imagine the candidate ignoring the reference while he answered the question. Now imagine turning on Fox News. Case, rested.

  191. You’re changing the subject. This is about direct contact in a public forum, not some meaningless BS about politicians answering every blogger on the internet.

  192. erich500 Says:

    As I’ve said at least three times, Romney has to take on this type of outrageous nonsense from his side of the aisle. Campaigns and candidates have defining moments, moments that are unscripted and show us something deeper about the person.

    This may have been one of them. And Romney failed. Again.

    He’s going to be attacked – and rightly so – as not having the “right stuff” to stand up to the hard right elements in his party. He better be able to respond to that.

    But again, if you think that only one side has been pushing this ugliness against the other then you’ve just been closing your eyes to things.

  193. erich500 Says:

    “Now imagine turning on Fox News. Case, rested.”

    Fox News?Oy vey.

    You’re not interested in condemning the poison; you’re only interested in criticizing it when it comes from the other side. Bush is a war criminal and lied us into war and Rove committed treason. I believe that summarizes your views, correct?

    In any case, I have no doubt that Romney will condemn those ridiculous accusations. I have no doubt he believes it is – as it is – absolute nonsense.

    But he should have stood up to it there and he didn’t.

    And that tells us something about him.

  194. You’re pushing a false equivalence. The far right is responsible for this treason/birther/Muslim terrorist madness becoming mainstream among conservatives. Comparing that to ridiculous truther crap against Bush that no one takes seriously is ridiculous. Comparing it to debate over how Bush approached the invasion of Iraq is just stupid.

  195. erich500 Says:

    ^Sorry, I’m not buying the “stuff my side says doesn’t count” argument. Bush stole the election, Bush lied about WMD, Rove was a traitor, Cheney was, well everything (and Cheney had some dangerous views, to be sure; I won’t defend him).

    When MoveOn ran those ads calling General Petraeus “General Betrayus” candidate Obama didn’t condemn them.

    He should have.

    If you want to argue that for the past three years the vast, vast majority of lunacy has come from the right, you’re absolutely correct. It’s disgusting.

    But if you want to argue that this madness has only or predominantly come from the right over the past decade, well include me out.

    This is the problem: neither side wants to clean up their own side of the aisle. You just want to point at the other.

    I say phooey on both sides.

  196. Fox Report, Shep, on Obama: “His base, that’s trying to pull him into the 21st century, I suppose…”. Gee, I wonder what Shep really thinks about g@y marriage.

  197. Btw, how’d that whole Iraq thing work out, anyway? All those years and all that blood to rid the Iraqi people of a dictator. A worthy endeavor, but if we had been told that was what we were going there to accomplish, do you think the American public would have supported a full-scale war over it? Of course not. So we got “mushroom cloud over New York City”. Nice.

  198. erich500 Says:

    I’m for legally recognizing same sex marriage but let’s face it: we’re making a pretty signficant change in a core institution that has stood us quite well for centuries.

    Not everyone who opposes this change is some sort of troglodyte. A man and man or a woman and a woman REGARDLESS of sexual orientation is fundamentally different than a man and a woman. The two are not the same.

    Gorillas have something like 98% of the same DNA as humans. Just a slight difference. But female humans have 97% of the DNA of males. Men and women are different. Period. And the coupling of men and women is a different arrangement than the coupling of two same sex people.

    Yes, institutions change, mores and values and beliefs change. It’s how we progress. But not all change is all good and not everyone who is opposed to those changes is a bigot.

  199. erich500 Says:

    I was never for the Iraq War so I don’t know who that is addressed to.

    Anyone? Ferris?

    Bueller…..Bueller….Bueller…..

  200. Yes, let’s discuss the Iraq war and the war criminal again. Cuz it went so well the last time.

  201. savefarris Says:

    “Imagine someone telling candidate Obama that John McCain should be tried for treason. Now imagine the candidate ignoring the reference while he answered the question.”

    –”The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion dollars for the first 42 presidents — number 43 added $4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. It’s irresponsible. IT’S UNPATRIOTIC!”

    Don’t have to imagine it, joe.

  202. erich500 Says:

    ^That’s not the same as the Romney incident but it’s indicative of the baloney from the Obama side.

    I’m not sure what the point Joe is making here but I’m pretty sure I don’t want to drill down any further in hopes of finding it.

    I’d be drilling until I reach the center of the earth.

  203. erich500 Says:

    “Same” as in comparable.

    I’m out of here.

    Yeah, don’t let the screen hit me in the fanny.

  204. “Unpatriotic” is a simplistic bit of bombast. Treason is a crime as established in the Constitution.

  205. With all what’s going on with our country today, whose the better school marm is a pretty boring topic.

  206. My point is clear. Audience member tells Santorum Obama was not born here, no response; another tells Romney Obama should be tried for treason, no response. The dumbass wingnut faction of the conservative movement has mainstreamed the concept that it’s ok to question the President’s qualifications as an American.

    Now today we get “crimes against America”. It’s disgusting, and if it had been done to McCain, that same dumbass faction would have lost their minds.

  207. And we have birthers on AC. Jesus good God.

  208. If they are right, Obama is guilty of treason and falsifying official hospital records.

  209. And he was far too young to do either of those things.

  210. erich500 Says:

    “If they are right, Obama is guilty of treason and falsifying official hospital records.”

    Yep, Obama baby foot prints all over the documents too!

    There’s your stinking evidence.

  211. What? Do we have another batch of born-again birthers in the snews? If these dimwits want to show that Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be president then they’re doing it all wrong. His mother was a American-born so he’s automatically a natural born one, too. The only part of his birth certificate that could be doctored enough to disqualify him would be its date of birth. So if they can show he was really born in, say, 1974 then maybe they’d have something… but they’d prolly need to catch him with a bottle of Grey Hair For Men to make it stick.

  212. ^ Just for Presidents.

  213. erich500 Says:

    “Global sex toy sales are soaring, expected to reach an all-time high this year, thanks in part to the overt support of female celebrities and widespread availability in grocery aisles.”

    Need to call my stock broker tomorrow and invest heavily in batteries.

    The buzz, er, rest here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2140779/Sex-toys-worlds-favourite-gadget-global-sales-soar-400-million-rival-smartphones.html

  214. I’m bullish on sex toys. It’s a growth industry.

  215. *Public Service Announcement*

    ^ Not usually a good idea to mix large aminal metaphors into the same sentence as “sex toys”.

    Speaking of “mixed” and “metaphors”, I’m tempted to suggest he grab that bull by the tail and face the issue.

  216. ^ That might be offensive, once it’s translated into English.

  217. Me mordre, chickie.

  218. fritz3 Says:

    Mitt Romney now says: “I’ll take a lot of credit” for the auto industries recovery.

    Sounds a lot like Al Gore’s “I invented the internet”.

    The ads write themselves.

  219. Not to give terrorists any ideas, but Leon Panetta’s nose is big enough to house a quantity of C4 to take down a passenger jet.

  220. Watching new Ed Schutz Leaning ad with the tub-o-guts dressed all in black. Looks like the burglar in the home alarm ads.

  221. Don’t expect to see the fool Biden on Meet the Press again anytime soon:
    “Biden hadn’t planned to make news about same-sex marriage or to endorse a position on the issue. The gaffe-prone vice president had been relatively on message for months. But on Sunday, he referred to the likely Republican presidential nominee as “President Romney” and to his own boss as “President Clinton.” And he inadvertently set off a frenzy on same-sex marriage, not because his position was surprising but because it made Obama’s look all the more absurd.”
    Dana Millbank – Washington Post

  222. Erick Erickson ‏ @EWErickson
    Obama got his political start in a terrorist’s living room. Do we really want to play the “denounce the lady at the Romney event” game?

  223. Just bad luck he was in a terrorist’s living room. Happens to all of us now and then.

  224. And we all remember how Obama worked for 20 years to tone down his preacher’s bombastic sermons. Got him to close with a heartfelt “God Bless America”. Now that was courage for you! Jesus is love.

  225. savefarris Says:

    How You Know They’re In the Tank Vol. DCCCVII:

    You can’t blame Obama: He’s too feckless and incompetently inept to be responsible for anything!

  226. savefarris Says:

    Did Al Sharpton just spend an entire segment getting 1st graders to dramatically read Democratic talking points?

    MSNBC: Stoop Forward.

  227. Calling Ms. Warren a liar is a reckless accusation. She clearly has referred to her Cherokee heritage for many years because she believes it. I think it’s a silly thing for her to discuss, but there is no evidence she’s saying something she doesn’t believe to be true.

  228. Am I getting this right? Elizabeth Warren thinks she has aboriginal American ancestry from several generations ago and wrote this down somewhere on something official. She could be entirely wrong about her heritage but it’s not as if she claimed herself to be half Cherokee or some fraction that would clearly be a lie.

    If I have that pretty close then I don’t understand why anyone would care. Even if that did give her a small boost twoard winning a job, so what?

  229. icemannyr Says:

    Hannity calling his taped interview with Mitt Romney “EXCLUSIVE” is comical.
    He’s been on many FNC shows numerous times.

  230. ^ I disagree. ‘Comical’ would be worth watching.

  231. Warren declared her race at Harvard Law School from 1986-1995 as “Native America”. That makes Joe a moron, Al an idiot, and her a liar.

  232. I disagree about Al. Most of the time.

  233. Are there any Cherokee people bellyaching about her claim? Eh, not that I really care. If Harvard hired or promoted her even partly because they thought her being the several-generations-from offspring of a European ancester who boinked an American Indian chick was a qualification then I’d blame them far more than her.

    As for her senate run, I think our experience with her government work involving the financial markets and congressional oversight thereof is plenty reason to keep her far away from the US Senate.

  234. Matt Browner Hamlin ‏ @mbrownerhamlin
    It’s so perfect that the DNC convention is being held at Bank of America stadium in a right-to-work state that has banned gay marriage

  235. Matt Browner Hamlin ‏ @mbrownerhamlin
    It’s so perfect that the DNC convention is being held at Bank of America stadium in a right-to-work state that has banned g@y marriage

  236. erich500 Says:

    Romney didn’t need to “denounce” that woman’s silly view, just correct her. To wit, a nice reasonable explanation of what constitutes treason and why the president hasn’t committed it would have been fine.

    (1) It would have been the right thing to do; and
    (2) It would have been beneficial politically for him.

    A win-win.

    But Romney is developing a nasty habit of never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

    To be sure, it would have been great if we had Obama at some time in his past standing up to his hard left friends and colleagues he associated with. But pointing to his failures isn’t much of a defense for Romney’s failures.

    Which is why I repeat: these aren’t exactly great candidates.

  237. I’d love to protest that Laura didn’t disagree about Larry’s claim that I’m a moron, but, well..she has the transcripts..

  238. Most presidential candidates are smart to avoid directly confronting the silly comments and I’m certain they’re coached not to. There’s only a small gain to be made by saying something but it comes with a considerable risk if it’s not done just right. And even with the small gain, saying something guarantees that other person’s comment will be aired over and over for at least two news cycles. Not a good thing for a campaign that desperately needs to stay on message.

    Gov. Christie can get away with challenging someone, but he’s an experienced prosecutor.

  239. The “treason” comment was an aside. If he had said “Well I wouldn’t go THAT far”, then answered the question, it would’ve passed quickly. His inability to react at all is what gave it two news cycles. When you’re presented with “Arab, Kenyan, treason” against the President you’re running against, you HAVE to push it back, or else you appear to be agreeing our POTUS is an unAmerican enemy of the state.

  240. Christie is a rare character, prosecutor or not. He can get away with things very few people can. He looks like a lovable bully which is nearly impossible. The woman in question was calling Obama a traitor in the sense of destroying the nation through debt. She was sincere but inarticulate and naive. Romney dismissed her comment by paying no attention to it, but answered the part of what she said that made sense. The risk of looking like a snob bully was greater than ruffling the feathers of people that aren’t going to vote for him anyway. An Intellegent choice.

  241. Comments on this got so ugly, Mediaite closed them. Not sure I’ve ever seen that before:
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/north-carolina-passes-despicable-same-sex-marriage-ban/

  242. carolmr Says:

    Jim Parsons from the Big Bang Theory was on Letterman tonight so I watched it. I usually don’t because I don’t like Letterman. Mika B. was also a guest. Parsons came on first and he said he was so excited to see Mika backstage because he watches MJ every morning and he got to meet Joe who was backstage with Mika. Parsons said Joe is very tall. Geez…can’t Mika go anywhere or do anything without Joe by her side?

  243. Well, it’s in town, and you know Joe is gonna want to hang out at The Late Show.

  244. jackyboy Says:

    ^Right, that’s the reason…

  245. savefarris Says:

    I don’t know why everyone’s surprised by the results in WV: Convicted felons are ALWAYS popular among Democratics.

  246. Grammie Says:

    Spud, are you still sure that fairness in advertising doesn’t demand that MSNBC change its name to DNCBC, Democratic National Committee Broadcasting Company: ;)

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/08/msnbc_al_sharpton_use_child_props_to_bash_mitt_romney.html

  247. The Riviera Times…

    [...]Blogus Interruptus… « Inside Cable News[...]…

  248. “Pink smoke is coming from the White House chimney.” – @rushlimbaugh (quoting a tweet)

  249. savefarris Says:

    ^That interview REEKS of desperation. If he feels he absolutely, positively has to make this announcement on the middle of a day, his internal polls must be Excorcist-level frightening.

    Then again, almost losing to a felon who wasn’t even trying tends to make one desperate.

  250. erich500 Says:

    From an ABC news story:
    “The president stressed that this [support for legal recognition of same sex marriage] is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.”

    Which means he doesn’t believe that they have a constitutional right to have their marriage legally recognized since it’s up to the states.

    He supports it but doesn’t believe it’s a right.

    I believe the duck billed platypus evolved faster than this.

    Yeah, I don’t know what that means but c’mon, duck billed platypus sounds clever.

  251. – states deciding –

    I predict further “evolution” on that concept, some time shortly after the election.

  252. erich500 Says:

    ^Into a chicken billed platypus, in other words.

    Yeah, chickens don’t have bills.

    Metaphors are overrated anyway.

  253. savefarris Says:

    “Yeah, chickens don’t have bills. ”

    They do now after Obama’s stewardship!

    /rimshot

  254. More confirmation. It was war as a forgone conclusion. The only obstacle was selling it to a post-9/11 terrified Congress and public. Congratulations.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/colin-powell-book_n_1503592.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

  255. Grammie Says:

    The Wild Eyed Radical Romney is pegholed by the MSM as a flip flopper.

    The always thoughtful, caring and reflective BHO, in contrast, evolves.

    Of course they fail to mention that he evolves in a continuous loop alternating back and forth:

    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/05/09/full-circle-read-obamas-quotes-through-the-years-on-same-sex-marriage/

    Has his opinion finally evolved enough for him to stick to it this time? I guess that depends on whatever is politically expedient for him the next time it comes up.

  256. erich500 Says:

    The conservative nagging ad infinitum about a liberally-slanted press is mostly overblown and often without merit (bad reporting is mostly because of sloppiness and not bias).

    But not always.

    It sure seems that for the news media that if a politician changes his or her views and goes to the left that he or she “evolves” or “matures.” But if they go to the right they “flip flop” or “abandon a position.”

    Just notice the characterization, the adjectives used, the description of the change. One is positive, the other negative.

    Yep, more than fantasy in this complaint.

  257. Last night’s election results were more exciting than most we’ve had so far this year. Sen Lugar being shown the door by voters in Indiana was so cool and Wisconsin’s results are a very good omen for Gov. Walker next month… and maybe Romney come November. James Carville seems to know what’s coming.

  258. savefarris Says:

    ^In 2002, he wore a trash can as a hat.
    In 2004, he smashed an egg on his forehead.
    I can’t imagine what he’ll do if (when) Obama loses … light himself on fire?

  259. For all I know maybe Carville wants this president ousted from office. He was seriously peeved with how they handled the oil spill.

  260. paminwi Says:

    Al. I was very excited to see what happened in WI yesterday. Thanks for being aware of my state.

    As posted above: see the liberal media bias: “Just notice the characterization, the adjectives used, the description of the change. ” Also, the visuals!

    http://www.althouse.blogspot.com/2012/05/bloombergs-ridiculous-photographic-bias.html

  261. Grammie Says:

    ^
    Nice link Pam.

    I heard about the bitching & griping, moaning & groaning about all the “out-of-state” money Walker had while conveniently ignoring the national effort by the unions against Walker and for Parker.

    This grandma sent him 50 bucks from out-of-state and I was pleased to do it.

  262. You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to find clues of wide-spread liberal media bias. You don’t even need to be Dr. Watson. It’s quite elementary, my dear readers.

  263. Where is Master Spud?!

  264. Gee! The WAPO says Mittens was a homophobic bully in ‘prep’ school. What a surprise.

  265. Grammie Says:

    LauraL, per the article:

    “These weak numbers stand in stark contrast to the estimated 900,000 voters who signed recall petitions”.

    Makes one wonder how many of those recall signatures were legit and how many were a la Acorn phony signatures.

  266. Gee! The WAPO says Mittens was a hom*phobic bully in ‘prep’ school. What a surprise.

    “Makes one wonder how many of those recall signatures were legit and how many were a la Acorn phony signatures”

    ^^ Yeah Grammie, at least 3-4 hundred thousand must be fake. :-)

  267. Grammie Says:

    ^ Well, of course I bow to your superior knowledge you on this.

    Just curious, is your certainty on this based on your personal experience in the Recall Petition or are you just omniscient? ;)

  268. imnotblue Says:

    @ fritz

    Oh goodies! Now “prep” school experience is going to decide the Presidency. Yeah, that’s a good idea.

    Ugh.

  269. “Oh goodies! Now “prep” school experience is going to decide the Presidency.”

    Seems fare to me. After all you all have no problem discussing Obama’s childhood education and eating habits in great detail.

  270. “Just curious, is your certainty on this based on your personal experience in the Recall Petition or are you just omniscient?”

    ^^ Hey I’m just agreeing with you Grammie. There must have been a massive fraud in the recall vote . It’s the only way to understand how the anti Walker vote was so huge. The vast left wing consperecy at work. That was your point wasn’t it? ;-)

  271. The Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing-fields of Eton.

  272. paminwi Says:

    hay 3: you speak of that which you truly know nothing.

    900,000 people signed the recall petitions. 670,000 people voted inn the democrat primary. There are many stories out there that republicans crossed over and voted for the weaker of the two main candidates to see if they could get her (Falk) to be the opponent rather than Barrett (who won). And even though republicans crossed over there were still 626,000+ people who voted for Walker. So, where we the other 200,000+ that signed the petition? That’s what the weak number stories are all about.

    I do wonder if the 4 nuns that got caught lying on the recall petition only voted once?

    Unions had spent a lot of $ supporting Falk to be the candidate and she lost even in Dane County where she had been our county executive for years. Barrett (who won) actually used the new law (Act 10) that got passed that amended the collective bargaining privileges to help balance the city of Milwaukee’s budget so he didn’t have to lay anyone off. In contrast, the Milwaukee Public School System extended their contract with the teachers union before the law took affect and they had to lay off 400+ teachers to balance their budget since teachers would make no concessions on contribution to their healthcare or pensions.

    So.. now the democrat is NOT running on collective bargaining but on jobs and cuts to education. If you were a business owner would you expand/start a business in Wisconsin with all the crap that has been going on? So, even though our job # have been weak I don’t think you can put all the blame on Walker (he’s been in office 15 months). Also, as far as cuts to education when asked how Barrett would have done things differently he refused to answer.

    Lastly this whole recall process just for the primaries and upcoming elections is going to cost our state $20 million $. All that $ could have put to much better use and that’s not counting the $8 million spent on additional police during all the protests. So, this is just pissing a lot of Wisconsinites off and they are getting sick and tired of all the whining by folks who lost a legitimate election.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150657778787411&set=a.498428267410.270446.57082507410&type=3&theater

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/barrett-falk-wont-say-how-they-would-have-balanced-wisconsins-budget_636918.html

  273. erich500 Says:

    For most Americans, especially the ones who will likely decide the election, Romney is mostly a blank slate. But what they’re finding out about him – however unfair, however exaggerated, however one dimensional – is not good for him.

    The image of him as a good looking frat boy given everything in life is taking hold. The latest reports of prep school hijinks is mostly silly but not all of it (imagine what the late night comics will do). It’s contributing to the negative view of him as a person. Again, it may be unfair – it is – but life isn’t fair. Politics especially so.

    Unless he is able to offer a personal narrative that corrects what is begining to take hold he will have, fairly or not, little chance of capturing the Middle America votes he needs.

    As the saying goes, you only have one chance to make a first impression. He’s losing that opportunity.

  274. imnotblue Says:

    Got it, Fritz. I was under the impression you guys thought that was wrong. What you meant was, don’t do it for our guy… it’s good for your guy though.

    What a bunch of trash.

  275. ^^Erich: It doesn’t help that his daily campaign performance backs up the image the Dems are painting of him as an out of touch rich guy who will say whatever it takes to get elected. Romney makes John Kerry look positively Clintonesque

  276. “So, this is just pissing a lot of Wisconsinites”

    ^^ Well you certainly sound pissed off! Me; not so much.

    If Mr. Walker does get recalled I will be pleased and you ,I presume, will begin the process of recalling Mr. Barrett. ;-)

  277. erich500 Says:

    Americans want to like the guy that they’re voting for for president.

    It may be silly, it may be superficial, it may be Oprahesque, but that’s the way it is.

    They mostly like Obama; they mostly (right now) don’t like Romney.

    That can change. But Romney sure doesn’t show that he knows it has to. Obama recognizes the need for likeability. He appears on talk shows, he’s shown at sporting events.

    On the other hand, the image of Romney may just be right. He can’t change it because it’s true.

    We’re going to find out.

  278. Grammie Says:

    Actually, Fritz, I asked the question that obviously underlay the article making direct comparisons of the the disparity between the numbers on the petition in relation to the votes cast to enforce the petition.

    I can’t help it if you claimed actual knowledge as opposed to my wondering. However, as I said, I will accept your position on it and now believe the petition was badly flawed.

  279. Eric sounds like one of these “no labels” guys. Bet he wears a scarf.

  280. 47 years ago he attacked a kid with scissors. A few months ago he waged a ruthless, lying campaign against his own party. A few weeks ago he made fun of someone who baked cookies for him. That, my friends, is a bully.

  281. Particularly the cookies. No one likes a snack bully.

  282. Did Joe just do a John McCain imitation?

  283. erich500 Says:

    Elizabeth Warren has just stated that she believes that Sitting Bull and Geronimo should have been allowed to get married.

    And she argued that at the time.

    Wow, she’s pathetic.

  284. Now if you want to talk about bullying, what about shoving a little girl? That my friends (and Fritz) is a bully.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/10/Does-WaPo-Know-Obama-Shoved-a-Little-Girl

  285. paminwi Says:

    “If Mr. Walker does get recalled I will be pleased and you ,I presume, will begin the process of recalling Mr. Barrett.”

    I wouldn’t be a part of any recall of Barrett and I’ll scream like holy he** if any Republican Senator runs to another state rather than staying and doing the job they were elected to do. Only democrats behave as you have stated. I’ll even bet you $ that the republicans in this state will never behave as badly as the democrats have.

    But, of course, I understand if you can’t believe that because you have the warped mind of a liberal and my kind of thinking is something you and those like you are incapable of understanding.

  286. Liberal Democrats have an end-justifys-the-means mentality. Carry-over from the old pro-communist days.

  287. “http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/10/Does-WaPo-Know-Obama-Shoved-a-Little-Girl”

    ^^ I can never tell if breitbart.com is really trying to do legitimate reporting or is just a right wing parody of the Onion.

  288. Fritz must hate little black girls. I was outraged.

  289. Environmentalists would never approve of a President Washinghton. Chopped down a cherry tree of all things!

  290. Mitt Romney is said to have stepped on a crack in the sidewalk in 5th grade. Old enough to know the pain it would cause his poor mother.

  291. I think it’s wrong to try to recall an elected official for doing what he or she campaigned on regardless of their party affiliation. I would also be against recall in any situation unless it appeared that it would be successful by an overwhelming margin.

  292. “I would also be against recall in any situation unless it appeared that it would be successful by an overwhelming margin.”

    ^^ Hows that work Al? You take a poll?

  293. Yes, Fritz, that would work. You can tell when there’s a groundswell of support or opposition without a poll because it crosses party lines.

  294. ^^ Then why have elections at all where the outcome is known? If we can ignore state and federal election laws in recalls then why not in regular elections? We could save a ton of campaign money if the POTUS election was held only in certain counties of tossup states. Oh wait; that’s where elections are fought now. Never mind.

  295. You’re intentionally ignoring my point, fritz. Recalls are for extraordinary circumstances and should be opposed when they’re used to attack a sitting governor for doing what he or she campaigned on doing.

  296. Did someone mention ‘press bias’? “Wrenching personal transformation” sounds more like something that might happen in a Vincent Price movie.

    http://dailyhowler.blogspot.com/2012/05/which-tribe-reezuns-better-joy-of-sect.html

  297. FINAL SCORE
    Al 10
    Fritz 0

  298. We wil try to put on a better fight for you folks, but Joe seems to be the only heavyweight liberal in the Progresive stable.

  299. Liar Elisabeth Warren also listed herself as a minority at Penn: http://e.dailycaller-alerts.com/l.jsp?d=861.6522744.1248.6DxIbLtgjhutFX8XD8fXrKw..A

  300. My Vitel Mobile Phone Business…

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