Brendan Loy @brendanloy
Even if you think MSM didn’t #VetThePrez, you’re just nuts if you think more Wright/Ayers/etc would’ve swung a 7% win amid financial crash.
It seems so clear when he puts it that way. This wasn’t a squeaker. This wasn’t a last-minute DWI-story. Move. On.
On the flip-side, you have this approving comment. I’ll be setting my DVR for that one. No wonder Maddow is advancing.
Tonight’s “Hannity” is an hour-long look at the forgotten, unexamined portions of “Dreams from My Father.” http://bit.ly/JRB4mC
According to breitbart.com:
Archive.org shows that the Dystel website used the following biography for Obama as of April 3, 2007:
“BARACK OBAMA is the junior Democratic senator from Illinois and was the dynamic keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He was also the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago. His first book, DREAMS FROM MY FATHER: A STORY OF RACE AND INHERITANCE, has been a long time New York Times bestseller.”
Obama launched his presidential campaign in February 2007.
In April of 2007 Obama’s literary agency, Dystel, changed the bio to reflect that he was born in the US.
I don’t think Obama was born in Kenya, but I think he lied about it to appear more “exotic.” That’s why he won’t release his college transcripts – because they probably say his birthplace is Kenya. Yeah, the media did a great job of vetting Obama in 2007-2008.
ask @brendanloy if it would have swung the primaries.
Then ask him which is more relevant: a unsourced story from 50 years ago about Mitt Romney committing aggrivated haircutting or Barack Obama (or someone he paid to represent him) lying about his background less than 5 years ago.
– great job vetting –
I don’t disagree. The same press that tried to make a thing over a possible bullying incident 46 years ago would have fried any Republican with the same sorts of business in his background. And it still might not have made a difference, depending upon the candidate and the circumstances. Regardless, it’s old news.
This is all going against basic human nature. Even if you could convince people that these ‘awful’ things were overlooked in ’08, you would also be saying that THEY overlooked them. Most people are not going to admit to themselves that they made such a momentous decision based upon flawed information. They just aren’t. His resume is complete and he HAS a record. We look like sore losers trying to re-fight the last battle.
I disagree with you, Laura. Why shouldn’t the American people now know that President Obama, at the very least, lied to his literary agency – for 16 years! – about his place of birth? And WHY did he lie? Will any reporter ask Jay Carney at the next press conference? Will any reporter ask if Obama applied to college, falsely, as a foreign student?
For me it’s not about swinging an election. It’s about the corruption of the media and incredible double standards that exist. The more that’s pointed out, the better as far as I’m concerned.
They had a good point on The 5 about how certain members of the MSM have threaten to go after Romney’s Mormonism if he uses Wright when they already have gone after his faith….but it is something to watch them openly blackmail Romney like that.
I think back to “Obama’s speech on Race” given a week after Wright, aka Reverand Nutzo, tapes created a scare in the media that THE ONE might be in trouble. We were told universally it was a speech for the ages and that it saved the day. Anybody remember a damn word of it?
I, as you might have guessed, do:
“Ask not what race can do for you. Ask what you can do for your race”.
“There is nothing to fear, but race itself”.
“Don’t fire until you see the whites”.
“Slow and steady wins the race”.
I’m disappointed that this “born in Kenya” bio isn’t getting more media attention, not even on Fox. I guess I’m the only one who thinks it’s strange and a big deal. One way or the other, Obama lied. He was the first birther.
The MSM will go after Romney in any case, whether he brings up Rev. Wright or not. It’s just to soon for them now.
Y’all ain’t too keen on reasoned logic, are you? Laura presented an excellent argument, and you waltzed right by it as if she hadn’t even said anything. Nice work, kids.
If Romney stays on message promoting his common sense approaches for fixing the economy, the soaring debt, and the giant pinch that the middle class are feeling then he’ll win the election and possibly bring the senate into Republican control. If the campaign gets distracted by silly stuff like Rev. Wright, however, he’ll lose. It’s as simple as that. Anyone who could possibly be swayed by Obama’s affiliation with Rev. Wright is already going to vote for Romney and you just know that the Obama campaign is praying for the distraction.
-Born in Kenya bio-
For most of us who pay attention it’s no revelation that Barack Obama is a phony. The news media knows this, as well, but giving that story more attention only serves to put their own poor journalistic performance of the ’08 election in the spotlight. That story is about the news media, not Obama.
I can’t take Sean Hannity seriously when one of the guests in his special audience show about Obama’s autobiography is the anti Muslim loon Pamela Geller.
Sean keeps missing the point, he wants to make the attacks on Obama personal instead of staying on the important issues.
How many times can Sean do a similar show about how bad Obama is?
We get it you don’t like Obama and don’t want people to vote for him.
I’m not saying MSNBC shows are not doing negative segments on Romney but most of them don’t make it the entire topic of the show like Sean does on many shows.
Sean’s hatred of Obama on a personal level is complete, and bizarre. And he shouldn’t have that crazy woman on his show. She called the President an anti-Semite. That’s disgusting.
Hannity treats every issue or person on a personal level, so that’s not hatred, It is obsessive.
Hannity is convinced that if he just says it one more time, people will suddenly see the light.
“For most of us who pay attention it’s no revelation that Barack Obama is a phony. The news media knows this, as well, but giving that story more attention only serves to put their own poor journalistic performance of the ’08 election in the spotlight. That story is about the news media, not Obama.” – Al
So there’s nothing that can be done about a biased media that will do anything to cover up for Obama? Believe it or not there are a lot of people who don’t know Obama is a phony because the media will not cover certain negative stories, like the literary bio that was coincidentally corrected after 16 years just before Obama announced his run for the presidency.
-So there’s nothing that can be done about a biased media -
No. The news media has always been biased and always will be; they’re human.
-a lot of people who don’t know Obama is a phony-
Correct. Those people don’t really care much about that, either. Most do care about results, however, and are ready to support someone other than Obama if that person can make the case that they’ll be better off four years from now..
Carol, give it up. Everybody knows enough about the man to make a decision in Nov. The only people who care about that crap are Republicans. The rest of us are voting on his record as President, compared to Romney’s career and statements.
Joe, should the media give up stories from Romney’s days in high school almost a half century ago? Should Maggie Haberman from Politico be investigating the private lives of private citizens who do pro-Romney ads? Why is nothing off-limits when it comes to the media investigating Romney but we conservatives have to “give it up” when it comes to investigating Obama?
Going backward is a giant “I told ya so”, and we know how people love those. It accomplishes exactly nothing, besides stroking the egos of people who either didn’t vote for him to begin with, or who have already come to their senses. No one cares about the past. He is where he is, and “history” starts at the moment of inauguration.
There goes Joe again, making sense. Hate it when he thows those curve-balls.
(sticky wicket there Al, ol’ chap)
I have good days..
^ You’ve had one. Don’t get cocky.
The bias of the hard news media is that they automatically view issues from a “left” perspective and not that they’re consciously favouring Obama over Romney: Romney made his fortune by being very good at capitalistic investment decisions… thus, he must have cheated the little guy. It’s the same way they report the JP Morgan $3billion loss – “need more regulation”… “maybe a crime was committed”… “just like the banking losses of ’08″. But few reported that this was nothing like the ’08 system crash because it was only JP Morgan’s money that was lost… and not that much of it, relatively. BTW, anyone else notice the oddity of JP Morgan’s CEO making such a stink about that loss? Bankers want regulation because with regulation comes government guarantees. This is why most Wall Street big-shots, while not necessarily liberals, are mostly Dems.
They fell down on the job vetting Obama in ’08 but they weren’t that hard on McCain, either. Again, it was mostly their reporting of issues from a “left” perspective that was biased, and I bet most don’t even realise they do this. This cycle is different because one of the candidates is the incumbent, so they see their coverage as being fair.
I caught the first half of Hannity’s special..it was embarrassing. He seems to be shocked that Obama is a liberal who partied in school AND NO ONE KNOWS. We know, Sean. We don’t mind.
Obama ran as a moderate, and enough people allowed themselves to be fooled into believing. Hannity’s breathless presentation will do about as much good now as it did then, which is exactly the point. We harped on a lot of this crap four-years-ago, and we see what it got. A different approach might be wise.
savefarris Says: “.. a unsourced story from 50 years ago about Mitt Romney committing aggrivated haircutting …”…
THAT’S what happened to me last year, when I looked like Phil Keating for a few months. But I never knew there was a term for it.
Next time someone hacks my hair, I’ll get the police to go after them for aggrivated haircutting! That’ll teach them.
And BTW farris, I agree with everything else you wrote re: Romney and Bambi. And Hannity is doing a great job vetting 0bama after the fact, even if he is just preaching to the choir.
“Obama ran as a moderate, and enough people allowed themselves to be fooled into believing.” – Laura
Because the MSM made no big deal about Wright, Ayers, the lost years, the drug use, no college transcripts, etc. The media decided, “There’s nothing to see here” and did very little reporting on these things so that Obama came across as a moderate. And when they did report on these matters, Obama always came out looking good and Repubs looking small for even bringing these things up in the first place. Obama began his political career in the living room of an anti-war terrorist? No big deal, let’s move on, the Republicans are racist for even mentioning it.
We pretty much know what Obama is now. if he is reelected, the country will have to approve of the real thing. On the plus side he is pretty to look at and tells jokes well. On the minus side, everything else.
Kudos to Amy Robach! Hey Sparty! We know a woman who won’t be going anywhere in her career, right?
The fantasy that the President wasn’t vetted by “the MSM” is hilarious. Y’all only watched FNC, then assumed they were the only ones reporting Obama’s past. First of all, EVERYBODY reported it; second, FNC is a very large part of the mainstream media, so their reporting counted, too.
The public decided Obama wasn’t a radical socialist terrorist Muslim commie. He isn’t. Get over it.
Well, that should settle it.
He had his good day already.
They really believe the public didn’t know all this stuff about Obama. They refuse to accept that the majority didn’t consider those perceived negatives as important enough to vote against him.
Or maybe a significant percentage of the majority didn’t consider.
I simply don’t believe that. I think they saw the President they ended up getting (well, I doubt they predicted he would be so good at killing the bad guys). He’s not a conservative, and conservatives will never vote for him. The rest of the population lives in a different world, and reacts differently to things you find upsetting.
Maybe a significant percentage don’t know which end their ass is bolted on from one week to the next, and their vote counts as much as any of us.
You can immediately throw out the 14% taking the National Georaphic survey who could not identify the United States on a world map.
I’m still giving some props to Team-Joe. I just don’t see Obama as “boogie-man”. My problems with him run along Joe’s fault lines.
Those Obama impersonator bit for the Huckabee show open is not funny.
Keep the lame jokes to your monologue.
Huckabee seems to deny Ted Mack is dead.
Ted Baxter. Un related just wanted to mention him,
A very important bottom line about all this “how could they vote for him” silliness is the competition, something I’ve mentioned many times, and is often discounted. I mean, Ronald Reagan won landslides, and that’s all we ever hear..like landsliding Jimmy Carter; then Carter’s VP; were significant accomplishments.
Obama beat an old guy with a bad temper; a professed ignorance of economic matters going into a Great Recession; and a ditz for a VP nominee. Obama got a lot of “believer” votes, but he also got plenty of, “Well, my choices are slim” ones.
Joe is mining gold today!
^ Kudos to Amy Robach! Hey Sparty! We know a woman who won’t be going anywhere in her career, right?
– the competition –
I don’t think so. Think about 2008. Barack Obama had little background and no useful experience, Had he lost, one could have easily said ” Well, of course he lost. McCain had decades of experience and a young, dynamic running-mate”. Dems thought they had a lock in 2004, right down to the flawed exit-polls that showed Kerry ahead. Some even pursued the idea that Ohio had been stolen. Your “bottom line” depends entirely on hindsight, which we all know about.
Enough swing votes and conservatives went for Obama because they thought he would absolve us of our racial sins, The press did nothing to discourage this, or the magical thinking about how he’d “fix” the economy. But did the press get him elected? No, They could only dream of having the power that we assign to them.
How’s Ainsley’s “career” coming along, Sparty? She’s what, 40 now? Can’t hold onto any gig other than reading headlines on the graveyard shift.
– the competition –
You’re just wrong. Sarah Palin was a serious mistake, and the Sep. 15 economic meltdown finished McCain off. Obama had a great run going, but he also got very lucky on the competition side.
In hindsight. And Sarah Palin saved him from a more embarrassing loss. Only liberals reacted to her as irrationally as you did.
Yes, hindsight is what we’re dealing with here. I’m discussing what happened in ’08, in response to people like Hannity who still seem shocked that we elected Obama. It’s a discussion of history, not theorizing on other ways things could have gone.
- Only liberals reacted to her as irrationally as you did. -
Only conservatives were irrational enough to think she could handle the Presidency if something happened to McCain. There’s no way liberals and independents would have ever taken that chance. She brought out a strong conservative base at the expense of moderate votes.
Another pointless discussion. Carry on.
I thought it was a perfectly reasonable dissertation in response to something happening on cable news. You’re not required to agree with me, I’m just talking.
I just suddenly realized that I wrote two paragraphs, and we’re talking about Sarah Palin, Again. Which might possibly contribute to the “irrational” assessment.
^How’s Ainsley’s “career” coming along, Sparty? She’s what, 40 now? Can’t hold onto any gig other than reading headlines on the graveyard shift.
Ainsley is the co-host of Fox’s hottest show, Fox & Friends First, which she will be hosting this week. I know you’ve pooh-poohed it, but Brian Stetzer disagrees with you:
It’s Sunday so here’s my little prayer: Dear God, please open more women’s eyes about Obama. Amen
It’s hilarious to reflect on CNN and look at Campbell Brown as the goodolddays. They could bring her back, keep Gupta, Lemon, & Coop, and get rid of everyone else to see an increase in ratings.
Poor Sparty! His middle-aged Ainsley couldn’t grab a spot on The Five, has never been on Hannity’s Great American Panel (even Courtney Friel made it once!), never participates in panel segments. But she is one of a rotation of castoffs on a show seen by 90 year olds and drunks staggering home.
I would wager Ainsley is MUCH more successful in her profession than you re in yours. Plus Ainsley is a wonderful person and you’re a walking piece of crap.
I end this here. I came here to post news about Amy Robach I thought this board might be interested in. I am tired of this and I’m sure the rest of this board is, too. Boogie, do everybody a favor and shut up.
thanks Dr. Detroit. Boogie seems to have his head stuck up his woogee.
I’m no fan of Ainsley, but bashing her for not being on opinion panels is silly. She doesn’t do opinion.
Saw HBO previews for NEWSROOM. Aaron Sorkin speak rolling out of the mouth of sock puppets. Be prepared to be awed by liberal wisdom at rapid West Wing pace as everybody talks like Facebook movie actors.
Sorkin himself does not talk like that in real like as he favors profanity laced tirades at the mention of the names “Bush” or “Palin”.
Newsroom will be liberal show, and I will love every second of it.
A wager you’d lose, Sparty. But then again, you’re quite used to losing in life.
Interesting Campbell Brown opinion piece in NYT – “Obama: Stop Condescending to Women”.
Doesn’t she know that we’re only supposed to be concerned with our girl-[arts?
That was [unny.
Not much else to say that won’t make it worse..
Al, not to take away your thunder but I did post about Campbell Brown at 4:49am on Sunday. Maybe you just missed my link. As an update to that info, on Mediaite it looks like Hilary Rosen also has made some comments about the “War on Women” and how she “hates the war on women” and “it’s got such terrible energy”.
Maybe this is happening because this “war on women” hasn’t polled so well.
Carol, Al skips my posts so I expect he doulb-jumped you.
What is wrong with you ladies? Are you trying to tell me that you’re capable of functioning without Obama’s help, every step of the way? Well, I ain’t buying it. Without Obama, you’d all be barefoot and pregnant. Enough of this traitorous talk.
– barefoot and pregnant –
Not without immaculate intervention. Oh, right..
I’m sorry it’s been so long since I last wrote, but the lawsuit from my sister-in-law after the camping trip has kept me pretty occupied. Anyway, this war on women thing got me reminiscing. Well, as you know, us Republicans think women’s health is the key to winning that war: if a woman is sick, she ain’t going to fight much. I got that epiphany on the camping trip when cooking the beans, and I…
Meals on Wheels jus arrived. I’ll send the rest later.