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July 24, 2012 at 6:37 am
FREEdom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
July 24, 2012 at 6:45 am
The so-called experts in a marathon coverage of most any event often seem as randomly stupid as any average person. I just listen to one talk on CBS THIS MORNING about what a skilled shot Holmes must have been with a “50% hit rate”. The guy was shooting into a packed crowd with a shotgun for Pete sake!
July 24, 2012 at 8:25 am
The slope is slippery on both sides, not just one.
The claim is: if “X” is done then it’s more likely that “Y” will be done.
But “X” can be the government banning assault rifles or it can be removing a ban on assault rifles. And “Y” can then be banning hi-caliber rifles or it could be unstable persons using an assault rifle.
Re slippery slopes: This is pretty interesting – the author, UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, says that slippery slopes do happen.
Warning: heavy lifting (90 pages).
“Mechanisms” of the Slippery Slope”: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=343640
July 24, 2012 at 8:49 am
Notes from the Twitters, I wouldn’t necessarily call the second one “good”, just noteworthy.
donsurber @donsurber
Victim’s Brother To MSNBC: Families Not Here To Talk About Gun Control http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/23/victims_brother_to_msnbc_were_not_here_to_politicize_and_talk_gun_control.html
donsurber @donsurber
Aurora theater shooting: Gun sales up since tragedy – The Denver Post. GOOD. http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21142159/gun-sales-up-since-tragedy#ixzz21XZvauJ3
July 24, 2012 at 8:56 am
“Mechanisms” of the Slippery Slope”
It’s just 90 pages: read it during lunch break, print it out and take it with you to the bathroom.
Okay, never mind……
July 24, 2012 at 9:32 am
Someone at ESPN must like MSNBC’s graphics,
http://i.imgbox.com/adfyy5Vy.jpg
http://i.imgbox.com/adjewbeg.jpg
July 24, 2012 at 10:23 am
We tried it already Ezra: it was called “Cash for Clunkers”: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/07/24/uncle-bens-crazy-housing-sale/
All you’re doing is just pulling demand forward, making this year’s numbers look good at the expense of next year’s numbers (when a certain someone would no longer be up for re-election.)
July 24, 2012 at 1:59 pm
NY Mayor Michael Bloomberg: “I don’t understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike, we’re not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what’s required to keep us safe.”
Yeah, that’ll really knock down gun sales, the thought by the public that the police won’t be around to protect them, that they’ll be on strike.
So, what if the police think the rights of the accused are too lenient? That protections for defendants are too strong and don’t “keep us safe.” Should they be taken away if the police threaten to go out on strike?
How about death penalty appeals? Miranda warnings? Exclusionary rule? All out of the window because the police may walk?
In for a dime, in for a dollar, Mr. Mayor.
July 24, 2012 at 2:08 pm
I bought my AR-15 from a cop at a gun show. I don’t think he is going on strike to get it back?
July 24, 2012 at 2:11 pm
200 miles from either coast Bloomberg couldn’t get elected dog catcher.
July 24, 2012 at 3:48 pm
As they like to do in Congress, NY Mayor Michael Bloomberg revised and extended his earlier remarks noted above: “I don’t mean literally go on strike…. In fact in New York they can’t go on strike–there’s a law against it. ”
So when he said, “I don’t understand why police officers across this country don’t stand up collectively and say we’re going to go on strike” it was a figure of speech. A metaphor, a simile.
More foot, Mr. Mayor? It has no trans fats….
July 24, 2012 at 5:59 pm
“200 miles from either coast Bloomberg couldn’t get elected dog catcher.” — larrykelly
LOL! So true. But don’t tell New Yorkers that. They have no idea really.
July 24, 2012 at 6:01 pm
As a good democrat, I support tighter gun regulation, but watching Bloomberg twist in the wind is so completely entertaining I can’t bring myself to say I agree with him on this (sort of).
July 24, 2012 at 6:54 pm
I’ve never voted for dog catcher. How the hell would I know which one was best qualified? SuperPACs?
July 24, 2012 at 6:56 pm
^ Try living in a county where the coroner is elected and there’s no Sunday sales.
July 24, 2012 at 6:58 pm
^The one who says to the dogs, “You didn’t build this dog pound.”
July 24, 2012 at 7:01 pm
I once voted for G.Gordon Liddy’s daughter for a position on the Fairfax County Soil Conservation Board.
I figured that if anybody would try to steal the soil that the Liddys would know how to handle them.
The first part is true; the second, not so much.
July 24, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Dog catcher is an elected position in the county where I have my cabin. It’s a good gig as you get a car and health insurance. Even the loser gets a free dog.
July 24, 2012 at 7:13 pm
Today they take your dog, tomorrow your parakeet.
Slippery slopes, Larry……
July 24, 2012 at 7:17 pm
It doesn’t pay running as a Republican here in Monroe County, they never win. All the action is in the Democratic Primary. Never voted for a Republican President, not even Lincoln, not even an Ohio favorite son. The coal unions were king before all the mines closed. Democrats were the friend of the unions People usef to drive 50 miles to show their kids what a Republican looked like Mitt just might be the first to buck history here. Obama has really soured the locals.
July 24, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Tomorrow starts the three week disappearance of MSNBC Dayside. Question is, will anyone actually miss it this year?
July 24, 2012 at 8:48 pm
The one who says to the dogs, “You didn’t build this dog pound.”
The accurate paraphrase would be, “You didn’t build the roads and bridges that lead to this dog pound.”
July 25, 2012 at 9:42 am
Hey Spud, since MSNBC is dominated with soccer, does that mean we are free to discuss soccer on here endlessly?
July 25, 2012 at 9:46 am
If you outlaw soccer posts, only outlaws will post soccer.
July 25, 2012 at 9:55 am
Well, good thing the judge on ICN is a soccer fan.
July 25, 2012 at 10:21 am
North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un just got married.
Broken hearts throughout North Korea.
Literally.
See Mayor Bloomberg? Literal and figurative, figurative and literal.
July 25, 2012 at 12:05 pm
So I’d really like to know what’s going on with the Jacksons. Rumor has it that Katherine Jackson has been held hostage by agents of her supposedly dead son, Michael, for reprogramming. That when she returns to California, she will throw a wet Blanket on the rest of her litter of misfits.
July 25, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Soccer on MSNBC in delay. It would be unfortunate if this went on in a way that Al Sharpton’s show is pre-empted.
July 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm
I saw what looked like a parody of an, MSNBC commercial last night at the gym. It had all the “Lean Forward” stuff, and Al Sharpton in front of a bridge with his arms out. But I count’t hear what was said.
Please. Someone tell me that was a joke, and not a real promo.
July 25, 2012 at 1:33 pm
It was a real promo, sadly. I think it’s even more hilarious than the Blueberry Pie!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48080993?__utma=112002203.1159316774.1343248371.1343248371.1343248371.1&__utmb=112002203.1.10.1343248371&__utmc=112002203&__utmx=-&__utmz=112002203.1343248371.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none)&__utmv=112002203.|8=Earned%20By=newsvine%7Cmsnbc%20tv%7Clean%20forward=1^12=Landing%20Content=Original=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=leanforward.msnbc.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Earned%20to%20Original=1&__utmk=68079569#48216353
July 25, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Er. copy and paste the whole link to view the 20 seconds of hilarious.
July 25, 2012 at 2:16 pm
It had all the “Lean Forward” stuff, and Al Sharpton in front of a bridge with his arms out.
I would’ve been yelling “JUMP!”
July 25, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Do trolls still live under bridges?
July 25, 2012 at 2:25 pm
Yes, but obviously some are in front of them.
July 25, 2012 at 2:36 pm
He had his arms out, like “It’s a bridge. What whaaaaat!”
July 25, 2012 at 2:42 pm
It’s a cool spot. I love how the picture widens out to show the new World Trade Center behind the bridge at the end.
July 25, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Sorry, this is the funny one: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48080993?__utma=112002203.1159316774.1343248371.1343248371.1343248371.1&__utmb=112002203.1.10.1343248371&__utmc=112002203&__utmx=-&__utmz=112002203.1343248371.1.1.utmcsr=(direct)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none)&__utmv=112002203.|8=Earned%20By=newsvine%7Cmsnbc%20tv%7Clean%20forward=1^12=Landing%20Content=Original=1^13=Landing%20Hostname=leanforward.msnbc.com=1^30=Visit%20Type%20to%20Content=Earned%20to%20Original=1&__utmk=68079569#48216281
July 25, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Jack Cafferty says 200,000 trucking jobs are going unfilled, then reads a bucnch of emails calling people too lazy to work. Simplify much, Jack? You don’t just waltz in and grab a truck; it takes training and licensing. Are 200,000 employers offering that schooling? I doubt it.
July 25, 2012 at 3:15 pm
What I’ve surmised about those trucking jobs is that compared to paramedics, the education costs less and takes less time, for a job that pays more. That all assumes that the reporting is accurate, which can be a bit of a leap these days.
July 25, 2012 at 3:21 pm
I may sign up for one of those schools soon. A little solitary time on the road is sounding pretty good after the mounds of crap I’ve had to deal with running a house for the disabled.
July 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm
You can’t comment online while you’re driving. You would look good behind the wheel though.
July 25, 2012 at 3:36 pm
Little Joe, Truckin’ Man. I see a country song..
July 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm
LMAO!
Maybe you can drive Will Power’s hauler, Joe!
July 25, 2012 at 3:52 pm
I know in parts of South Texas, they don’t have enough drivers to transport the oil/gas being pumped so they’ve had to limit how much is actually pumped. Those drivers need a few extra stamps due to the hazardous materials but I’m sure it’s not to difficult to obtain.
July 25, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Eastbound and Down – Jerry Reed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI
July 25, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Ah damn. Ed Schultz’ wife has ovarian cancer.
July 25, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I don’t understand the logic behind MSNBC’s Olympics coverage. If you’re going to start airing a game, you stay with it until the end. ESPN understands this (unless it’s an IndyCar race, then we dump it to a network nobody gets).
There was one game that started late so, as a result, MSNBC had to air the second game on tape delay. Just before 6pm, they cut away to announce the final score and went to Al Sharpton’s show. Either you’re going to be a political operation or you’re going to be a network broadcasting the Olympics. You can’t be both.
July 25, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Mitt Romney thinks you’re stupid and will vote for him no matter what. In a question from Brian Williams about gun control, Mitt said Holmes got ammo he “wasn’t supposed to have”. That’s a lie. Everything was purchased legally.
Then Brian asked if there should be limits on the amount of weaponry people can purchase. Mitt said no, we should prevent bad people from getting it. Uh, what? How are you gonna do that without limiting what they can purchase? That interview was an amalgam of lies and words that didn’t add up to actual sentences.
July 25, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Duh.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/07/25/the_news_medias_role_in_mass_shootings_114904.html
July 26, 2012 at 5:25 am
Little Joe, indeed!
July 26, 2012 at 5:38 am
Are we all going to sing Convoy, now?
July 26, 2012 at 5:40 am
^^Yes, because Obama’s rant railing against AK-47s (which are already heavily regulated AND weren’t used in this event) was strikingly coherent and relevant.
July 26, 2012 at 5:48 am
SPUD:
Inside Cable News
Two boxes of computer parts just arrived from Newegg. I sense a blog disruption in the near future. #MuchAssemblyRequired
(Obviously has no teenager in the house)
July 26, 2012 at 8:07 am
- Convoy -
Written by Chip Davis, also known as Mannheim Steamroller. Betcha didn’t know that.
July 26, 2012 at 8:24 am
You are right, Joe. I didn’t know that.
See! I told you if you studied hard, it would happen eventually!
July 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
Well, I’ll be a blue-nosed steamroller!