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HOT: FBN finally goes to 16×9 aspect ratio.
HOT: CNN DC studio
HOT: Wanda Sykes skewers Journalist Thomas Roberts
HOT: Mideast riots/attacks coverage. Except…
NOT: Way to much nit-picking of Romney’s first statement.
Hot: SOMEONE (I don’t remember who and can’t find the source) pointed out that if this video allegedly caused the attacks in the Middle East, then most certainly the Osama bin Laden movie that Hollywood was planning to release in October to help OWEbama should not be shown. If these idiots want to blow up the world over a movie against Islam, they’d certainly go crazy seeing their hero be killed.
“Cause” and “incite” are not the same word. The video intentionally incited violence..the Coptic Christian who made it knew what would happen if the Islamic world got wind of it. Then the crazies committed the violence. That puts well-deserved blame on both parties. The Coptic incited, the crazies caused.
While it’s possible they’ll react like lunatics to the bin Laden movie as well, it’s not the same topic. This video madness is about some idiot portraying Mohammed as a pedophile.
Joe’s right. There is a big difference between “inciting” people, and “causing” people to do something.
For example… the girl who wears the mini skirt, is “inciting” people to attack her. But she didn’t “cause” it. She wanted to “incite” the violent people, but not cause it.
Yup. Makes perfect sense, right Joe?
And people say that line of thinking is like blaming the victim. Preposterous!
I’m not defending the crazies, you douchy douchebag of douchebagism. I’m explaining the situation involving a bunch of religious zealot idiots, none of whom have anything to do with this country, but we’re getting hammered anyway. Drone ‘em all.
So… you think they made the video, hoping that some crazy Muslims would get violent (like they need any extra help in that area). For… what purpose, exactly? If that’s true, what would the positive outcome be?
As for “drone ‘em all.” Funny how when it was GWB’s war, it was because the right “hates brown people.” When it’s the left… well, kill them indiscriminately and pretend it never happened.
Yes, I think the Coptic moron wants the Muslim world to be considered the evil he believes thay are, and incited them to prove his point. Whatever you think about Muslims and Islam in general, that’s a nasty thing to do.
Joe is inciting me to barf up on the next liberal I see!
This is what I hate about you libs: you can always justify something when you want to prove a point. But when we conservatives want to use your same logic to make a point for our side, all of a sudden that rationale doesn’t apply, because it’s 2012, or because you had a cheeseburger at lunch, or because you saw a bunny rabbit this morning.
I’ll go with Grandpa’s list, too. Maybe add the Gretchen Carlson thing… no, not yet, anyway.
Sec. Clinton made a public statement disavowing the one made by the embassy. The press, however, were all over Romney for essentially saying the same thing. Romney has been attacked for “politicising” while the first words that Obama -who is the president- spoke were to bash Romney.
Speaking of that embassy statement, is it plausible that such a statement would be made without Sec Clinton and/or WH approval? Thugs are tearing down the fence so you have to believe that they called Washington. Maybe the empty chair wouldn’t take the call.
Susan Rice still continuing the White House view that Libyan embassy attack was “not premeditated nor pre planned”. Making her rounds on all the Sunday talk shows.
Hot: MSNBC does like news on the weekend
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Personal NOT: I miss lockup…..those shows have been known to get better numbers than their weekday primetime shows so it will be interesting if what this weekend numbers are like. While I like that they did news since they are a so called “News” network I like to watch lockup.
Not: WH claims its not at all about Obama while they burn him in effigy in the middle east….they do know we get video don’t they?
Not: Do we really need a new poll every day?
Not: Chris Matthew…..well for everything he said this week.
Okay… so the Coptic Christian gets pissed because those violent people keep killing his people… but it’s his fault for being pissed in the first place.
Oh, and you didn’t answer my questions, but to follow more of your “logic,” if those people are violent loons, why would he need to show people that? Wouldn’t people already know that? Or… is that something some people have been trying to deny and pretend isn’t true, whenever it suits them politically?
Funny how things change.
Oh, and for how long are we going to pretend that his movie had anything to do with the rioting, and simply wasn’t the excuse for a pre-planned event.
If you can’t understand the difference between the film-fueled riots in Libya and Egypt, and the pre-planned attack by al Qaeda, you aren’t trying hard enough.
There’s a lot of “apparently” and “no actionable intelligence” in there. Spin much? The Libyan President is telling a completely different story, and says the FBI wants to look into it. If it was a spontaneous attack, what’s to investigate?
It varies from embassy to embassy depending on the threat assessment. My understand there were no Marines at the Benghazi embassy but some were at Tripoli. Joe and Obama’s press protectors so overwhelmed by blind ambition to clobber Romney that the Obama administration has not gotten the scrutiny of objective analysis such an event merits. Just now are some of the press starting to do their job. Really shameful.
I’m blinded to press reports about the level of protection? Uhh..I can’t read reports until they’re written. It’s apparent that an entire conservative cable news network wasn’t immediately up to date on force protection, either. That damn media bias..
Sept 11th. Country still full of Kadafi people that hate us. More guns per capita than Chicago gehto. Al Qaeda in the area. Thraets from their #2 days before about Lybian lieutenant killed by drone.
PROTECTION MNIMAL AND PEOPLE DIE!
And all press wants to question is Mitt Romneys comment?!!!
If there is no bias in the MSM, I’ll kiss your a$$ in Macey”s window.
“Do I have to kiss your ass to get a little help here?”, asked my ex-sis in-law.
“Go for it. He’s not my ass any more”, answered my ex.
It does appear that American embassy security throughout the region was lacking. That said, the location in Benghazi was not the embassy and there are sometimes very good reasons to not show a heavy security blanket.
“That said, the location in Benghazi was not the embassy and there are sometimes very good reasons to not show a heavy security blanket.”
You better believe committee hearings will be the judge of that. Reporters are slowly starting to ask some of the hard questions of someone other than Romney.
Not hot: The Obama administration still insisting that the riots across the world are really just a bunch of hyperventilating movie critics, and that there’s nothing anti-American in their deadly riots.
Of course and they should review. I would think that an ambassador has substantial say about where he goes, when, and how much security he takes with him. But what do I know? Not staying at the embassy in Triploi on 9/11 turned out to be a bad decision, and the Obama administration should only be held responsible for that if the ambassador was ordered to Benghazi for some dumb reason on the 11th anniversary of 9/11.
Everything I’ve read about Ambassador Stevens shows a man deeply in love with the culture there, and very comfortable moving around in it. I’ll be very surprised if he was at the embassy for any reason other than he wanted to be.
That guy who sometimes subs for Andy Levy on Red Eye is former CIA and a foreign security expert. He made the point that having a large security detail assigned to the Benghazi consulate, which is not fortified like a typical embassy should be, can draw attention to the place and signal that there is a VIP present. It is also situated in a city that is not entirely under the control of the new Libyan government.
Mike Baker. I’m watching him on Justice with Judge Jeanine right now. Which begs the question, why is a TV judge covering international affairs for Fox News?
^Probably because we were discussing how ridiculous Jeannine Pirro looks, with her Fox Attitude, overemphasized ‘outrage’, and underwhelming knowledge of the situation.
^^ FNC on the weekend. MSNBC is shut down, and CNN does too many canned CNN Presents docs and Piers reruns I care nothing about. Plus, Jeannine is pretty good within her area of expertise. This display tonight was embarrassing.
The show made no sense. She started with her personal opinion that the film had nothing to do with the violence, then ended with a discussion with a law expert about possible criminal penalties for the filmmaker for incitement. If you’re going to do an hour program – especially one about such a serious subject – it helps if you can remember in the last 10 minutes what you said in the first 10.
September 15, 2012 at 5:05 pm
HOT: FBN finally goes to 16×9 aspect ratio.
HOT: CNN DC studio
HOT: Wanda Sykes skewers Journalist Thomas Roberts
HOT: Mideast riots/attacks coverage. Except…
NOT: Way to much nit-picking of Romney’s first statement.
September 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm
HOT: Grandpa Dave’s list.
But a double NOT HOT: Excessive harping on Romney’s dumb comment. It was stupid, driven by politics, and poorly timed. A hat trick in hackery.
But holy Muhammad, the media wouldn’t stop chewing on that bone.
September 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Hot : Islamists attack America
Not: Media attack Romney
September 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Hot: The Journal Editorial Report and Fox News Watch are expanded to one hour each. Even hotter if the move is permanent.
September 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm
HOT: Mitt Romney sinks his candidacy at a hastily called, poorly thought out press conference.
NOT: Rightwing media abdicates all responsibility to their audience by withholding information, and lying about “apologies”.
September 15, 2012 at 6:40 pm
HOT: Chicago teachers go out on strike
NOT: The group is so obscenely obese that Chicago schools rise 8″ off their foundations.
September 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm
NOT: Chris Matthews makes a fool of himself… again… by suggesting is was some how inappropriate for Romney to want to run against Obama.
September 15, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Hot: SOMEONE (I don’t remember who and can’t find the source) pointed out that if this video allegedly caused the attacks in the Middle East, then most certainly the Osama bin Laden movie that Hollywood was planning to release in October to help OWEbama should not be shown. If these idiots want to blow up the world over a movie against Islam, they’d certainly go crazy seeing their hero be killed.
Not: Forgetting where I read something!
September 15, 2012 at 7:37 pm
“Cause” and “incite” are not the same word. The video intentionally incited violence..the Coptic Christian who made it knew what would happen if the Islamic world got wind of it. Then the crazies committed the violence. That puts well-deserved blame on both parties. The Coptic incited, the crazies caused.
September 15, 2012 at 7:39 pm
While it’s possible they’ll react like lunatics to the bin Laden movie as well, it’s not the same topic. This video madness is about some idiot portraying Mohammed as a pedophile.
September 15, 2012 at 7:43 pm
If they just painted Mohammed’s mother with elephant poop and put the painting in a museum, I’m sure that wouln’t have got anyone killed.
September 15, 2012 at 7:49 pm
This is Mohammd, come get me:
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September 15, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Joe’s right. There is a big difference between “inciting” people, and “causing” people to do something.
For example… the girl who wears the mini skirt, is “inciting” people to attack her. But she didn’t “cause” it. She wanted to “incite” the violent people, but not cause it.
Yup. Makes perfect sense, right Joe?
And people say that line of thinking is like blaming the victim. Preposterous!
September 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I’m not defending the crazies, you douchy douchebag of douchebagism. I’m explaining the situation involving a bunch of religious zealot idiots, none of whom have anything to do with this country, but we’re getting hammered anyway. Drone ‘em all.
September 15, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Bad analogy, Blue. “Incite” is to knowingly, intentionally provoke violence. No one puts on a skirt hoping it will make someone violent.
September 15, 2012 at 8:16 pm
HOT: Mideast Crisis
NOT: Idiotic statement by Governor Romney
NOT: Media coverage of Mideast Crisis focused entirely on politics.
HOT: Wanda Sykes/Thomas Roberts
HOT: MSNBC ratings.
September 15, 2012 at 8:17 pm
So… you think they made the video, hoping that some crazy Muslims would get violent (like they need any extra help in that area). For… what purpose, exactly? If that’s true, what would the positive outcome be?
As for “drone ‘em all.” Funny how when it was GWB’s war, it was because the right “hates brown people.” When it’s the left… well, kill them indiscriminately and pretend it never happened.
September 15, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Also hot: NFL football for getting everyones’ political opinions off my facebook news feed.
September 15, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Yes, I think the Coptic moron wants the Muslim world to be considered the evil he believes thay are, and incited them to prove his point. Whatever you think about Muslims and Islam in general, that’s a nasty thing to do.
September 15, 2012 at 8:28 pm
Joe is inciting me to barf up on the next liberal I see!
This is what I hate about you libs: you can always justify something when you want to prove a point. But when we conservatives want to use your same logic to make a point for our side, all of a sudden that rationale doesn’t apply, because it’s 2012, or because you had a cheeseburger at lunch, or because you saw a bunny rabbit this morning.
Sorry Joe; no bin laden movie for you! Next!
September 15, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I’ll go with Grandpa’s list, too. Maybe add the Gretchen Carlson thing… no, not yet, anyway.
Sec. Clinton made a public statement disavowing the one made by the embassy. The press, however, were all over Romney for essentially saying the same thing. Romney has been attacked for “politicising” while the first words that Obama -who is the president- spoke were to bash Romney.
Speaking of that embassy statement, is it plausible that such a statement would be made without Sec Clinton and/or WH approval? Thugs are tearing down the fence so you have to believe that they called Washington. Maybe the empty chair wouldn’t take the call.
September 15, 2012 at 10:10 pm
HOT: Whatever Missy said. I’m not exactly sure WHAT she said, but I support her right to be adorable saying it.
September 15, 2012 at 11:49 pm
HOT: MSNBC news running from 8am-5pm on a weekend.
September 15, 2012 at 11:53 pm
“douchy douchebag of douchebagism”
Someone say that out loud, three times, fast.
September 16, 2012 at 7:20 am
Hot: Around the world, “Hope & Change” going up in flames. Literally.
September 16, 2012 at 7:37 am
Still waiting on the “Hope & Change” app.
#vaporware
September 16, 2012 at 7:46 am
Susan Rice still continuing the White House view that Libyan embassy attack was “not premeditated nor pre planned”. Making her rounds on all the Sunday talk shows.
#fullLewinsky
September 16, 2012 at 8:49 am
Hot: MSNBC does like news on the weekend
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Personal NOT: I miss lockup…..those shows have been known to get better numbers than their weekday primetime shows so it will be interesting if what this weekend numbers are like. While I like that they did news since they are a so called “News” network I like to watch lockup.
Not: WH claims its not at all about Obama while they burn him in effigy in the middle east….they do know we get video don’t they?
Not: Do we really need a new poll every day?
Not: Chris Matthew…..well for everything he said this week.
September 16, 2012 at 9:06 am
Okay… so the Coptic Christian gets pissed because those violent people keep killing his people… but it’s his fault for being pissed in the first place.
Oh, and you didn’t answer my questions, but to follow more of your “logic,” if those people are violent loons, why would he need to show people that? Wouldn’t people already know that? Or… is that something some people have been trying to deny and pretend isn’t true, whenever it suits them politically?
Funny how things change.
Oh, and for how long are we going to pretend that his movie had anything to do with the rioting, and simply wasn’t the excuse for a pre-planned event.
September 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm
If you can’t understand the difference between the film-fueled riots in Libya and Egypt, and the pre-planned attack by al Qaeda, you aren’t trying hard enough.
September 16, 2012 at 1:06 pm
You mean Susan Rice?
September 16, 2012 at 1:12 pm
I’ll get back to you on that. I haven’t seen her comments yet, but they don’t sound right.
September 16, 2012 at 1:31 pm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/16/13896494-ambassador-rice-benghazi-attack-began-spontaneously?lite
There’s a lot of “apparently” and “no actionable intelligence” in there. Spin much? The Libyan President is telling a completely different story, and says the FBI wants to look into it. If it was a spontaneous attack, what’s to investigate?
September 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm
^ I agree, but we should keep in mind that the Libyan president also has good reason to spin.
September 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm
It’s possible Rice’s version is correct. Apparently – and I didn’t know this – embassies are not heavily gaurded, and never have been. Which is crazy.
September 16, 2012 at 3:20 pm
30-40 Marines plus private security is what it used to be. Have no idea what they do now.
September 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm
It varies from embassy to embassy depending on the threat assessment. My understand there were no Marines at the Benghazi embassy but some were at Tripoli. Joe and Obama’s press protectors so overwhelmed by blind ambition to clobber Romney that the Obama administration has not gotten the scrutiny of objective analysis such an event merits. Just now are some of the press starting to do their job. Really shameful.
September 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm
I’m blinded to press reports about the level of protection? Uhh..I can’t read reports until they’re written. It’s apparent that an entire conservative cable news network wasn’t immediately up to date on force protection, either. That damn media bias..
September 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Those facts came out before the weekend and were available for anyone that watched FNC and didn’t have his head up his a$$.
September 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm
The day after:
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/12/report-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-had-no-marine-protection/
September 16, 2012 at 6:02 pm
Sept 11th. Country still full of Kadafi people that hate us. More guns per capita than Chicago gehto. Al Qaeda in the area. Thraets from their #2 days before about Lybian lieutenant killed by drone.
PROTECTION MNIMAL AND PEOPLE DIE!
And all press wants to question is Mitt Romneys comment?!!!
If there is no bias in the MSM, I’ll kiss your a$$ in Macey”s window.
September 16, 2012 at 6:23 pm
“Do I have to kiss your ass to get a little help here?”, asked my ex-sis in-law.
“Go for it. He’s not my ass any more”, answered my ex.
It does appear that American embassy security throughout the region was lacking. That said, the location in Benghazi was not the embassy and there are sometimes very good reasons to not show a heavy security blanket.
September 16, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Richard Engel reported the force protection levels several days ago..Thursday, I believe. The concept that we just learned about it is not true.
September 16, 2012 at 7:58 pm
“That said, the location in Benghazi was not the embassy and there are sometimes very good reasons to not show a heavy security blanket.”
You better believe committee hearings will be the judge of that. Reporters are slowly starting to ask some of the hard questions of someone other than Romney.
September 16, 2012 at 8:08 pm
Not hot: The Obama administration still insisting that the riots across the world are really just a bunch of hyperventilating movie critics, and that there’s nothing anti-American in their deadly riots.
September 16, 2012 at 8:17 pm
You better believe committee hearings…
Of course and they should review. I would think that an ambassador has substantial say about where he goes, when, and how much security he takes with him. But what do I know? Not staying at the embassy in Triploi on 9/11 turned out to be a bad decision, and the Obama administration should only be held responsible for that if the ambassador was ordered to Benghazi for some dumb reason on the 11th anniversary of 9/11.
September 16, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Everything I’ve read about Ambassador Stevens shows a man deeply in love with the culture there, and very comfortable moving around in it. I’ll be very surprised if he was at the embassy for any reason other than he wanted to be.
September 16, 2012 at 9:04 pm
That guy who sometimes subs for Andy Levy on Red Eye is former CIA and a foreign security expert. He made the point that having a large security detail assigned to the Benghazi consulate, which is not fortified like a typical embassy should be, can draw attention to the place and signal that there is a VIP present. It is also situated in a city that is not entirely under the control of the new Libyan government.
September 16, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Mike Baker. I’m watching him on Justice with Judge Jeanine right now. Which begs the question, why is a TV judge covering international affairs for Fox News?
September 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm
Right, consulate. Sorry, I keep calling it an embassy.
September 16, 2012 at 9:21 pm
Any why are you watching it?
September 16, 2012 at 9:26 pm
^Probably because we were discussing how ridiculous Jeannine Pirro looks, with her Fox Attitude, overemphasized ‘outrage’, and underwhelming knowledge of the situation.
September 16, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Let me know if he says the same thing on Judge Jeanine. I could watch myself but I’d rather clean a toilet.
September 16, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Let me know if he says the same thing on Judge Jeanine.
Nope. She didn’t ask.
September 16, 2012 at 9:30 pm
Warnings ignored. This thing stinks to high heaven.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/libya-diplomats-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
September 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm
^^ Thanks, Joe. Am not surprised. And if you’re watching that programme you really are a cable news junkie.
September 16, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Baker did talk about that. What is the point of intelligence-gathering if we don’t pay attention to it?
September 16, 2012 at 9:37 pm
CNN also reports that Egyptian PM claims some, but not all, of the protesters in Cairo were paid to protest.
September 16, 2012 at 9:40 pm
^^ FNC on the weekend. MSNBC is shut down, and CNN does too many canned CNN Presents docs and Piers reruns I care nothing about. Plus, Jeannine is pretty good within her area of expertise. This display tonight was embarrassing.
September 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm
The show made no sense. She started with her personal opinion that the film had nothing to do with the violence, then ended with a discussion with a law expert about possible criminal penalties for the filmmaker for incitement. If you’re going to do an hour program – especially one about such a serious subject – it helps if you can remember in the last 10 minutes what you said in the first 10.