Read What It Says, Not What You Twist It To Say…
The Daily Caller’s Patrick Howley has this lame piece of twaddle which fellow Caller Jim Treacher was only too happy to regurgitate…
Howley:
White House press secretary Jay Carney issued a factually incorrect response Wednesday to the White House petition to deport British-born CNN host Piers Morgan, wrongly claiming that Morgan, who has launched repeated televised attacks on the Second Amendment, is protected from deportation by the First Amendment.
Treacher:
In related news, Morgan has also maneuvered the White House into providing yet more evidence that they don’t know anything about the Constitution, U.S. history, or pretty much anything else. Patrick Howley reports:
Here is Carney’s statement…
Let’s not let arguments over the Constitution’s Second Amendment violate the spirit of its First. President Obama believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. However, the Constitution not only guarantees an individual right to bear arms, but also enshrines the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press — fundamental principles that are essential to our democracy. Americans may disagree on matters of public policy and express those disagreements vigorously, but no one should be punished by the government simply because he or she expressed a view on the Second Amendment — or any other matter of public concern.
Nowhere in Carney’s response to the petition does he ‘claim’ that Morgan was protected from deportation by the First Amendment. Howley just plain made that part up and Treacher apparently liked what Howley was saying so he fell in line. All Carney did was make an argument that because someone voiced an opinion on the second Amendment doesn’t mean they ‘should be’ punished for it. To equate that line of thinking with what Howley and Treacher wrote is….well…insane.
If Tucker Carlson was really serious about starting a conservative alternative to the liberal internet media, he’s still got his work cut out for him. Allowing his company’s staffers to pen outright falsehoods is not a very good counterweight to the liberal media establishment Carlson wants to undermine. Dubious propaganda masquerading as the reporting of facts makes for a poor method of achieving that goal.
January 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Yes: There’s a world of difference between “should” and “could”. Your point is spot on.
But (there’s always one of those), this Administration like previous ones has prevented – punished? – some individuals from getting visas to the US because of their political views.
Here, for example: http://www.salonemonitor.net/sama-banya-u-s-visa-denial-an-octogenarian-of-hate-speech-and-inciting-slpp-partisan-to-hate/
And here: http://tribune.com.pk/story/362070/speaking-against-drone-strikes-pakistani-lawyer-denied-us-visa/
Is there a distinction between rescinding a visa, i.e., Morgan, versus denying one, i.e,. the cases above? The two seem to be punishment for expressed views albeit slightly different ones.
Jay Carney’s “should” seems not to apply with the above.
Admittedly, slightly different matters but not entirely different.
January 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm
Daily Caller makes stuff up all the time. It’s what they do to get the right wing dumbassophere worked up in a tizzy.
January 10, 2013 at 2:47 pm
The dumbassosphere is slightly to the right of the repeditiveosphere, and the unoriginalosphere.
But sometimes they overlap.
January 10, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Andy has suddenly become a Mediaite/Daily Kos poster.
January 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm
It’s just the repetition that bugs me.
Come on… put a little effort into it.
January 10, 2013 at 6:42 pm
My goodness. Someone is in a proper snit.
January 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm
I just know you’re better than that There’s plenty of stuff that you can acurately and factually ding Morgan and the Obama Administration on if you want to. You don’t have to gin up something that can’t stand up to even the mildest scrutiny.
January 10, 2013 at 7:01 pm
I don’t read Mediate or Daily Caller. Thanks for playing though.
January 10, 2013 at 7:07 pm
“I know you can stop saying things I don’t agree with.”
January 10, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Daily Kos — whatever you said it is I post.
January 10, 2013 at 7:13 pm
Yeah, this is why I hate linking sh\t from conservative blogs. I have this pesky need to relay an honest account, and not some crap that sounds good to me.
January 10, 2013 at 7:23 pm
Facts and honesty are elitist.
January 10, 2013 at 7:49 pm
What are you people talking about
January 10, 2013 at 7:51 pm
Keith Olbermann. Try and keep up.
January 10, 2013 at 8:12 pm
So this Treacher guy is still good with forwarding a false narrative. What is this thing on the right where their media says some BS; the audience laps it up; and everybody’s happy? They know it’s not true, and it doesn’t matter. That’s weird.
January 10, 2013 at 8:14 pm
Yeah, that only happens on the right. Magic.
January 10, 2013 at 8:42 pm
Yes, it only happens on the right. Liberals don’t make sh!t up, then laugh about it with each other.
January 10, 2013 at 8:44 pm
It must be a “false narrative.” It couldn’t possibly be an honest difference of opinion, because anyone who differs with your opinion is, by default, dishonest.
January 10, 2013 at 8:45 pm
“Liberals don’t make sh!t up, then laugh about it with each other.”
Now that’s funny!
January 10, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Didn’t Liberals laugh at someone who said they were able to see something from their house or yard… except it never actually happened, and was just an SNL routine, they decided had ACTUALLY happened?
Nah. Couldn’t be.
*rolls eyes*
January 10, 2013 at 9:25 pm
“It must be a “false narrative.” It couldn’t possibly be an honest difference of opinion, because anyone who differs with your opinion is, by default, dishonest.”
There’s a difference between a “difference of opinion” and, well, making stuff up.
January 10, 2013 at 9:25 pm
Sarah said you can see Russia from Alaska. It’s true. SNL is a comedy show. Look it up.
January 10, 2013 at 9:27 pm
“Liberals don’t make sh!t up, then laugh about it with each other.”
Bwahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahhahaaahahahahahahaahahahhaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Something tells me you’re standing with a group of like minded liberals and laughing right now.
That’s all.
January 10, 2013 at 9:32 pm
One of those SNL skits on Palin simply quoted her word for word.
January 10, 2013 at 9:32 pm
Can you not see Russia from Alaska? Do they not share a border?
And do you really want to argue that Liberals didn’t believe she actually said “from her house?”
Am I going to have to find examples, and embarrass you again? Come on. Take the high road, Joe.
January 10, 2013 at 9:33 pm
You’re not expressing a “difference of opinion”, Treacher. You’re making something up. Carney did not say the Constitution prevents deportation of a Brit. He said he respected Piers’ First Amendment right to say whatever.
If I look at a red car and say I don’t like the color, that’s an opinion. If I look at a red car and say I don’t like the color because it’s blue, I’m changing the facts.
January 10, 2013 at 9:35 pm
Sorry, Blue..my sentence wasn’t clear. The fact that you can see Russia from Alaska is true. SNL parodied this fact because Sarah’s placement of it in her interview was hilarious, and ripe for parody.
January 10, 2013 at 9:46 pm
Yeah, that’s great.
And it was quoted all over the left-wing dumbassosphere (ha!) as though she actually said it. Which fits the parameters of what you said doesn’t happen… except it does.
The defense rests it case.
*Law & Order sound*
January 10, 2013 at 9:47 pm
“There’s a difference between a ‘difference of opinion’ and, well, making stuff up.”
Yeah, the difference is that the president is a Democrat.
January 10, 2013 at 9:48 pm
“You’re not expressing a ‘difference of opinion’, Treacher. You’re making something up.”
No, you’re making something up.
January 10, 2013 at 9:59 pm
No, I am not. As Spud clearly stated, you reprinted Howley’s incorrect representation of what Carney said. If you’re now saying you don’t agree with that representation, I’d love to hear it.
January 10, 2013 at 10:07 pm
Sorry, Blue..you’re gonna have to do better than that. The parody was close enough to how ridiculous SP actually sounded that some people confused the two. That’s not intentional “makin’ stuff up”, and she was fond of saying. “Jay Carney said something he didn’t say” is intentional, and you don’t mind.
January 10, 2013 at 10:11 pm
No, your representation is incorrect.
January 10, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Well, I didn’t give my opinion on the DC story. Frankly, my caring stopped after they started the petition… it was stupid, and I agree with the folks who said it’s anti-First Amendment to try to deport someone with a difference of opinion.
But, as you said earlier today, I’m not required to call out every right-wing disagreement. “Pass.”
As for the double standard… your position is now that the right makes stuff up and runs with it, while the left is too stupid to know the difference between television/comedy and reality?
January 10, 2013 at 10:31 pm
“Yeah, the difference is that the president is a Democrat.”
LOL…. what’s that supposed to mean? LMAO.
If our representation is incorrect (Spud quoted your piece), please feel free to correct the record.
January 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm
I’ve read everything Spud quoted. Howley misquoted Carney, and you reprinted Howley. This isn’t complicated. Carney never said Piers was constitutionally protected from deportation. It didn’t happen.
January 10, 2013 at 11:06 pm
My representation is correct. Yours is incorrect.
January 10, 2013 at 11:11 pm
Tell us how our representation is incorrect. LOL.
January 11, 2013 at 6:35 am
Because I say so. LOL.
January 11, 2013 at 6:48 am
I’m going to settle this argument:
In the dispute between Treacher and Andy/Joe, Treacher wins. Case closed.
January 11, 2013 at 9:21 am
I’m out of order, you’re out of order. We’re ALL out of order!
January 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm
“Because I say so.”
Well, that settles that then………
January 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm
Yes, it does.