What’s Hot/What’s Not: 08/25/13

What’s Hot:

Ed Schultz returns to MSNBC weekdays – That didn’t last long did it?

MSNBC ends Hardball double vision – Finally…after all these years…the same Hardball show won’t be repeated twice a day in the span of three hours.

Al Jazeera America Launches – And is immediately dropped by AT&T who promptly is sued for breach of contract.

Al Jazeera America Isn’t All Al Jazeera America – Weekend viewing of Al Jazeera America revealed some simulcasting of Al Jazeera English…a most unexpected and welcome development, considering that we were told that AJA wouldn’t have any AJE content. It may be only temporary but I hope not.

Bill Kristol And FNC Part Ways – Didn’t see that coming.

FNC Fires Brian Lewis – Didn’t see that coming either. Though, apparently, it was a while in coming if you believe the carefully orchestrated leaks that have come out to fill in the alleged backstory.

Irena Briganti to Take Over For Lewis? – This I could see coming a mile away. Briganti is the logical choice.

Peace In Our Time – It’s nice to see ICN commenters treating each other nicely for a change. Well…nicer than lately anyways. Let’s keep it that way…

What’s Not:

CNN Slots Rachel Nichols to Fridays at 7:30 – There are several things fundamentally wrong with slotting Nichols at 7:30 on Fridays…it puts CNN up against Sportcenter on ESPN, it cuts AC 360 Later in half (presuming it will air at all on Fridays), and it ruins 360s flow for the week making one night shorter than the other four. Other than that…great move!

Ed at 5, Chris at 7 – It should be the other way around. Yes, Matthews 7pm show rates higher than his 5 live broadcast but Ed fits in better sandwiched between Sharpton and Hayes than he does between Bashir and Sharpton. Actually Ed fits in better sandwiched between Matthews and Maddow but that ship has sailed…

FBN Airing A Special Featuring Fox New Radio Hosts – And what exactly do the mostly non-business all hot talk partisan opinion hosts of Fox News Radio have in common with Fox’s Business network? Your guess is as good as theirs…

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59 Responses to “What’s Hot/What’s Not: 08/25/13”

  1. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    Peace In Our Time – It’s nice to see ICN commenters treating each other nicely for a change. Well…nicer than lately anyways. Let’s keep it that way…

    Let me say that I swear — on the souls of my grandchildren — that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made here…

  2. NIxon – I personally miss your sharp commentary. Some of the personal attack stuff was pretty raw but the facts stated and your own personal opinion stuff was good, IMHO.

  3. Hopefully Agnew will not com back though.

  4. In honor of Nixon’s return, let me offer one of my beloved poems:

    Spud laid down the law,
    after vile comments he saw.

    Some feelings were hurt,
    as off to Twitter they spurt.

    Nixon swore not to snipe,
    as he smoke his peace pipe.

    The name calling is gone,
    as the blog sees the new dawn.

  5. ^ No, we can’t just have Peace In Our Time. Now we have to go back and talk about how “feelings were hurt”, which – if you’re not paying attention – is an attack on people who objected to some of the vile things that were being spewed around here. So thanks for the ride, but this is BS.

  6. Gee, sorry to hurt your feelings with my poem, Joe. didn’t mean to.

  7. And Nixon, if you took offense at the Indian pipe reference, I apologize in advance.

  8. And Lonestar, I hope your foray into Twiiter pairs nicely with your blog efforts here.

  9. Having Fox Radio hosts chime-in about business-related aspects of current events would not be a bad thing even with a little partisan political noise mixed in. Unfortunately for FBN we know better and watching this for its “business” content will be a waste of time.

  10. We’re going to attack Syria. We don’t have much choice, but this will suck.

  11. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    NIxon – I personally miss your sharp commentary. Some of the personal attack stuff was pretty raw but the facts stated and your own personal opinion stuff was good, IMHO.

    Thanks, Pam. At one point, I decided to leave, mainly due to the racial stuff. However, with the new tone, I think that things will be fine.

    And Nixon, if you took offense at the Indian pipe reference, I apologize in advance.

    No offense taken at all, Larry. And I liked the poem.

    As for the “vile comments,” I have admitted my guilt. However, I wasn’t the only guilty party. I would suggest – no, beg, that we please put this in the past and start with a clean slate.

  12. Little appetite by the public for military action in Syria:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/26/new-poll-syria-intervention-even-less-popular-than-congress/

    There wasn’t in the Balkans either when Clinton took action, but I think the results were worthwhile. Libya, not so clear yet.

    Obama’s off hand “red line” comment may push the action to maintain our credibility. A more skilled leader wouldn’t have done that.

  13. The carping about “red line” from the right is typical talking-points hooey. If POTUS hadn’t made a statement about potential chemical attacks in Syria, he would’ve gotten flack for that. Geopolitics is hard.

  14. Red line is pretty standard foreign policy talk. Not only Republicans were saying you don’t say “red line ” unless you really mean “red line”. Everyone knows what it means except this President. IMO it shows me how glib he wants to be at times without really understanding that he is talking as the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!

  15. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    What conceivably would the plan be? Fire in some cruise missiles? That is never effective, unless they have nuclear warheads and the point is to turn the place into a radioactive theme park. You could use warheads designed to fry the power grid and let both sides fight it out in the dark, but that’s pretty much what they are doing now.

    A cruise missile strike would by necessity have to be followed up by an intensive air campaign. But what side do we want to win in the long run? The rebels and Al-Qaeda? Or the Iranian-backed Assad regime? Too bad that both sides can’t lose.

    The question that needs asked is “What vital interest is served by the United States getting involved?” I can’t think of one.

  16. We have to attack Syria. Iran’s watching this and if we don’t do anything this time, they’ll know they can do whatever they want and President Obama won’t do a thing.

  17. The carping about “red line” from the right is typical talking-points hooey.

    BS. The left has been critical as well. Obama made threats and then did nothing when his “red line” was crossed. It makes us look weak. Of course, President Obama is a terribly ineffective leader. And Iran knows they can push us around now.

  18. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    We could attack Iran, and cut the head off of the snake once and for all. But we sure as hell better make it count. Half-measures won’t work.

  19. We could attack Iran, and cut the head off of the snake once and for all.

    Obama don’t have the, um, testosterone to do that.

  20. NOT HOT: Time for Free For All thread, Spud.

  21. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    We could attack Iran, and cut the head off of the snake once and for all.

    Obama don’t have the, um, testosterone to do that.

    We certainly agree on that.

  22. Some big news in the sports broadcasting world. SBJ is reporting what I already knew which is that TNT and ESPN want out of their television contracts with NASCAR early. That’s unprecedented in sports. Televised sports are sacred and everyone always tries to hang in there even when they become a ‘lame duck’.

    It’s NOT going to be a good thing if the people airing the races next year don’t want to be there.

  23. What’s the deal with that? NASCAR not getting the ratings?

  24. TNT’s ratings are horrible – of course their coverage is also horrible and they have a plethora of commercials. ESPN cited high production costs. Ratings went down because they moved races from ABC to ESPN and ESPN2. TNT and ESPN are gone at the end of 2014 anyways when the ‘old’ deal is new again with Fox and NBC.

  25. “typical talking-points hooey” tweren’t chop suey.

  26. HOT: 11AM Sunday Morning

    FOX NEWS CHANNEL TO DEBUT MEDIABUZZ HOSTED BY HOWARD KURTZ ON SEPTEMBER 8TH

    FOX News Channel will debut MediaBuzz, a new live weekend program hosted by Howard Kurtz, on Sunday, September 8th at 11:00AM ET, announced Michael Clemente, Executive Vice President for the network. The one-hour show will focus on the state of the news media in addition to the media’s shaping of current events and their role in politics while also featuring interviews with leading journalists and commentators.

  27. ^courtesy of TVNEWSER

  28. HOT: the month of October

    U.S. faces new debt-limit deadline (earlier than expected).

    The U.S. government is set to run out of borrowing authority in mid-October, leaving the government at a high risk of having inadequate cash to fund all operations, including paying Social Security checks and military salaries, officials said on Monday.

    The mid-October date creates a new cliffhanger for Washington — and one that comes on the early side of what many analysts had anticipated.

    In exchange for raising the $16.7 trillion debt limit, Republicans are demanding significant new spending cuts — and some are insisting on de-funding or delaying President Obama’s signature health-care law. Obama has said he will not negotiate over the debt limit.

    Read more at:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com

  29. You go ahead and keep banging that debt-limit drum, Republicans. Don’t worry about the global effect on our credit rating. No big deal.

  30. Ed at 5, Chris at 7 – It should be the other way around.

    I still have to stubbornly maintain that Ed is a better fit between Bashir and Sharpton. If you think about it, those three guys are all basically known as loudmouth talking heads with that typical appeal of a political pundit, lacking broad political expertise, just an opinion and a heavy reliance on political activism (see Sharpton). They like to just yell and scream and get their point across with a lot of polarizing language.

    Then when Matthews, Hayes, Rachel and LOD come on, it becomes a very politically savvy lineup. Matthews used to work for Carter as a speech writer, so he knows what that whole culture is about. Hayes and Maddow are both very wonky intellectuals that are able to lecture and smoothly explain their point of view, so their styles are very similar. Finally, with LOD, you have a former Senate staffer who worked for Patrick Moynahan, and again is very familiar with the DC establishment insiders.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m crazy, but I think it’s a nice separation of their lineup in two different camps: The everyman and the establishment wonks.

  31. I was a bit disappointed to learn, from Al Jazeera, that Gary Gilmore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore) is African American. My memories of that case would say otherwise.

  32. I think the fact Tommy Lee Jones played Gilmore in the movie should have been a clue.

  33. If the Republicans can get some debt pared off while raising the debt limit, more power to them. I see the future, and it is Detroit.

  34. I’m hearing plenty of conservatives in Twitterland saying that government shutdown is a bad idea, and may indeed undercut efforts to overturn Obamacare. I’ll go with that.

  35. Dont forget the debt limit isn’t the only trigger event this fall.

  36. Spoiler Alert: No one is overturning ObamaCare. It’s not a pending bill, it’s a law. Ted Cruz and all those other hucksters feeding the right this BS should be addressed as the liars they are. They shout REPEAL OBAMACARE!, then suck up the donations. Someday people are going to realize the “free market capitalism” these folks are promoting is their own bank accounts.

  37. Not until we overturn Obama and the Democrat-held Senate.

  38. and the well get this country back what God meant it to be,

  39. Not until we overturn Obama and the Democrat-held Senate.

    Which actually makes constitutional sense. Cruz was babbling the other day about Obama repealing it cuz #magic

  40. Ted Cruz is doing what it takes to get presidential buzz, God help us, for a freshman whatever-the-hell-he-is. It’s completely unmoored from reality.

  41. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    I was a bit disappointed to learn, from Al Jazeera, that Gary Gilmore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Gilmore) is African American. My memories of that case would say otherwise.

    I guess that Al Jazeera wants to reach that demo of morons who believe anything and usually watch CNN.

    I think the fact Tommy Lee Jones played Gilmore in the movie should have been a clue.

    Rosanna Arquette was a real cutie in that movie.

  42. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    Is AJA Nielsen rated?

    With the Gilmore remark, mabye Leslie Nielsen.

    To be serious, Nielsen may require them to be on the air a set amount of time before any public numbers are released. I’m sure that AJA has some sort of running internals, everybody else does.

  43. Because MSNBC, Fox and CNN have never ever ever gotten their facts wrong.

  44. ^ It only counts when Non-Fox does it.

  45. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookani Says:

    Andy, you have to admit that the Gilmore thing was quite a boo-boo. I’d think that it was hilarious no matter who did it.

    We had a local anchorette read a story about a kid in Indy that was hit and killed in a crosswalk. The next line was that he was in serious, but stable, condition at Wishard Hospital.

  46. You can’t tell me for a second that videogames and movies don’t desensitize our children to violence. The entertainment complex is just as much to blame, if not more to blame, for our youth becoming so violent as the gun makers.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/24/la-police-boy-8-fatally-shoots-0-year-old-relative-after-playing-video-game/

  47. It would’ve been nice if the a**hole who owned the gun had locked it up. A major issue with the ridiculous gun culture in this country is the laziness that seems to go along with it. “Guns everywhere, not a care in the world. Yee haw!”

  48. It sure would be nice if the parents, I don’t know, made the kid participate in after school activities, or Cub Scouts, or go to church – instead of buying him those g.d. video games.

  49. Kids should go to church whether the parents believe in it or not. The little jerks need to fear something.

  50. I mean, buy a kid a videogame where you shoot people for sport and then leave a loaded gun on the table for him to play with. Nothing could possibly go wrong.

  51. Kids seem to get parents to buy them anything they want. Our society has become kid centric. It used to be kids fought to get their parent’s affection. Now just the opposite.

  52. Keith Olbermann’s new show is on ESPN2 right now.

  53. Olbermann’s at his best on ESPN2.

  54. Lol I’ll admit I miss Olbermann and I’m enjoying the show (I found his exist from MSNBC childish and his show on Current sucked), but the background of time square behind him is kind of annoying with all the flashing lights.

  55. FBN Airing A Special Featuring Fox New Radio Hosts, Never knew about that one. What was the show over? And who was on it? Kilemeade is already on Fox and Friends and his radio show has a weekly segment with hemmer and MacCallum. dubt he was on as he is on a lot. Even has done The Five. John Gibson is a good guy, but he is a better fit on radio than TV. I guess he was part of it. Tom Sullivan? Sullivan still do an FBN show of his own? He was given a show on Fox News Radio. Then Alan Colmes. Who else? Fox News Radio cut shows and changed schedule in February. Definitely Spencer Hughes wouldn’t have been on FBN as he was canned in February. Todd Starnes? He isn’t a host, but rather he seems to write articles at the site for the radio shows. This is news to me.

  56. I figured it out. The site said to Watch the All-Star Summit on FOX Business Network – Sat. 10AM, 7PM & Sun. 7PM Eastern

    The FOX News Talk Radio All-Star Summit!

    For the first time ever, all of the FOX News Talk Radio hosts will join together on the same stage to battle over the hot topics of the day, and you’re invited to participate!

    John Gibson plays host to Brian Kilmeade, Tom Sullivan, and Alan Colmes right now! This Summit probably won’t have beer, but there might just be some fireworks!

    So they are all there sans Spencer Hughes who was canned in the Winter. Spencer has comeback to guest host since then. Does a few podcasts at his site. Fox Across America was cut after 7 years on Fox News Radio.

    I’ll be tuning in to the special. Interesting.

  57. This is just ridiculous. Syrian foreign minister speaking now. Al Jazeera and BBC World News (which I get on my tablet) are covering it live. MSNBC, to their credit, is talking Syria. CNN’s talking about hot weather and Fox is talking about a racist DHS employee and his imminent firing isn’t enough.

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