Free for All: 12/20/13

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  1. Morning Joe had on Bishop Wuerl of the Washington DC diocese this morning. As a welcome and intro to his segment the producers decided to play a David Letterman clip about atheists and them doing a Rockettes type show after the holidays.

    Even Mika said “awkward” after the clip was played. This is a prime example of liberals behind the scenes at MSNBC who really hate religion.

  2. Yeah, but it’s cool to hate religion. Well, Christianity. It’s the new thing. Everybody’s trying it.

  3. Yeah, but it’s cool to hate religion. Well, Christianity. It’s the new thing. Everybody’s trying it.

    That’s a dishonest talking point. I saw a clip this morning of Sarah Palin saying if you object to Phil Robertson’s words, then you object to the Gospel. That’s crap. I don’t want to hear that dude’s ridiculous allusions to bestiality and the other crude sexual references in that article, and it has nothing to do with religion.

  4. Christianity is openly attacked on a daily basis in the media and pop culture. But it’s cool because jeebus.

    The most bigoted comments in any comments section pretty much always have to do with anti Christian bigotry. Media people (Hello Andrew Kirell) mock and denigrate Christians daily. But, it’s accepted as enlightened instead of bigoted.

  5. Phil Robertson isn’t a politically correct politician. His words are hyperbolic on every subject. It’s the way he speaks. He’s 67 years old and he’s not going to change just because the butt hurt outrage machine is in full affect. The people going after him ate the same ones who hated the show without ever seeing it prior to these comments. A&E didn’t even want them paying at the end of every show for fear of offending the msnbc crowd.

  6. Well, I’m not going to argue religious comments in comment sections. I’m specifically referring to Duck Guy, and the Palin clip I just saw. I won’t get into a wide-ranging discussion of religion and the Left. That could go on forever.

  7. Sharyl Attkisson speaks: Hope none of you need to use the Obamacare website. security risks as recent as Monday.

    But, I am sure we will hear at the Prez’ news conference this afternoon. All is fine, nothing to see here.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/high-security-risks-found-after-healthcaregov-launch/

  8. I just really don’t like the acceptance of attacking Christianity all the time. And, I last went to a church service about ten yrs ago.

  9. “Sharyl Attkisson speaks: Hope none of you need to use the Obamacare website. security risks as recent as Monday.” – Pam

    Oh, great. Not that I have logged on to Obamacare, but still…
    I have enough to worry about because of Target. I bought a lot of Christmas gifts there with my credit/debit card.

  10. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    According to the far left it is fine to attack Christianity and Judaism. But never Islam. That is considered out of bounds.

  11. What I find irritating is that when conservatives complain about cultural rot and how it affects our kids, we’re told to ‘change the channel’. But for some reason, when liberals are offended…oh my God, it’s going to cause kids to commit suicide!, so it must be stopped.

  12. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    But, I am sure we will hear at the Prez’ news conference this afternoon. All is fine, nothing to see here.

    When he comes on the channel changes or the set goes off. I have no interest in listening to anything that the liar has to say, unless it is to announce his resignation.

  13. I’ll wait for the Reader’s Digest version. Three more yeas and the guy will be gone. >looks at watch<

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  16. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I’ll wait for the Reader’s Digest version. Three more yeas and the guy will be gone. >looks at watch<

    I’ll wait for Megyn’s take on it.

  17. “A Must-See Primetime Debate!
    Friday, starting at 9p ET: Be afraid, be very afraid! Megyn on the ad that could take down the Democrats!”
    You can watch the ad complete with creepy music here, http://www.foxnews.com/fnctv/

    Yeah that sounds like a segment from a straight news anchor on a newscast.😛

  18. “we took your white Santa, we made you worship a black guy, now were decapitating your favorite TV show”

    MERRY CHRISTMAS FROM LIBERALS

    er, happy holidays!

  19. Man, they really don’t care. Two weeks ago Megyn was still calling herself a straight news anchor..now Announcer Guy has her all charged up about something “taking down” an entire political party. Those people are awful.

  20. So what’s the original programming on MSNBC tonight, ICE?

  21. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    now Announcer Guy has her all charged up about something “taking down” an entire political party. Those people are awful.

    Yes, Joe, they are awful. That is why the Democrats must be exposed for what they are. Deviated preverts and atheistic commie stooges.

  22. FNC is the only network to regularly promote their show topics on the show pages.

  23. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    FNC is the only network to regularly promote their show topics on the show pages.

    That’s one reason why they have more viewers than all of the competition combined.

  24. MSNBC is poised to end the year in third place among the cable news networks in total day viewers, with a loss of 20 percent versus 2012. The network finishes second in primetime, but it has shed 29 percent of its audience from this time last year. The drops are the biggest among the cable news networks.

    http://www.thewrap.com/year-in-cable-news-bashir-firing-turmoil-msnbc?dtoc

    But there is hope people will wake up about Megyn next year.

  25. She can always do some more race-baiting, since that gets so much attention.

  26. ON THE Rachel Maddow show tonight:

    The worlds smartest ex-bartender reveals why one of her Facebook commenters today called Congressman ISSA a “POS”.

    … can’t seem to find her show topics, but maybe just don’t where to look other than the MSNBC site and her Facebook page.

  27. Megyn could do so much better if she’d just listen to her critics. Republicans too.

  28. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Megyn could do so much better if she’d just listen to her critics. Republicans too.

    She needs to simply laugh them off. Her ratings are great, and her detractors will gripe no matter what.

    The “straight news anchor” really seems to stick in the crops of some. Fine. It gives them something to complain about. When I was a kid, I thought Bob Keeshan was a fraud. He was neither a captain, nor a kangaroo. At least I had the excuse of childhood.

  29. The “straight news anchor” bit was a lie. You don’t mind being lied to, by people who ostensibly report the news. Makes for a great pair.

  30. “The “straight news anchor” bit was a lie. ”
    Is it the cable news lie of the year?😛

  31. And anyone who notices that they’ve been lied to couldn’t possibly be Republican. Yeah, that’s exactly what Fox thinks of its audience. In at least two cases, they’re right.

  32. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    And anyone who notices that they’ve been lied to couldn’t possibly be Republican. Yeah, that’s exactly what Fox thinks of its audience. In at least two cases, they’re right.

    It gives the morally indignant a reason to complain. And, she did used to be a straight news anchor. FOX may have plans to use her as such in the future. Perhaps on the broadcast network doing the evening news, if they decide to start one.

  33. I don’t think she’s attracted to Maddow.

  34. The cable news lie of the year was Phil Griffin’s forecast of the pending dominance of MSNBC. It was either a lie or stupidity. You pick.

  35. Fox News Alert: You don’t just pick and choose when you can be a straight news anchor. Once you’ve thrown a fit over the race of Santa and Jesus, done bogus segments on ACA, and hopped up and down with glee over the thought of the Democratic Party collapsing, that “respected anchor” ship has sailed. Brit Hume had the smarts to be an anchor first, then morph into a partisan in semi-retirement. Megyn Kelly is no Brit Hume.

  36. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    The cable news lie of the year was Phil Griffin’s forecast of the pending dominance of MSNBC. It was either a lie or stupidity. You pick.

    I would guess a stupid lie.

  37. Egos of all hosts pretty much makes them think of themselves as straight journalists. Even Maddow repeatedly claims to be. NO, don’t make me print her quotes again. Farris, lock and load.

  38. Bob Beckel & Kimberly Guilfoyle ‘Going After’ That Other New Year’s Eve Duo
    Two of “The Five” co-hosts Bob Beckel and Kimberly Guilfoyle have news for CNN’s New Year’s Eve hosts: “We’re going after Anderson Cooper and Kathy Griffin,” Guilfoyle joked to TVNewser in a phone interview this afternoon previewing their just-announced New Year’s Eve special on Fox News. “And we’re gonna get em,” Beckel added. Guilfoyle and Beckel will host a live hour at 9pmET, ahead of the New Year’s Eve Times Square special hosted by …
    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/bob-beckel-kimberly-guilfoyle-going-after-that-other-new-years-eve-duo_b208130

  39. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I haven’t watched any of this New Year’s Eve crap since Guy Lombardo.

    Enjoy the last broadcast:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL60HdslvOk

  40. I remember they tried a Guy Lombardo Orchestra without him for a couple years. It was pretty depressing, and this was right about the time Dick Clark was starting. You know the rest.

  41. ^ That wasn’t very clear. I believe Dick Clark did at least one show while Lombardo was still alive…my recollection is that New Year’s Rockin’ Eve started in 1972. There was an overlap there, with Clark’s show picking up steam a few years later.

  42. Actually, Bob and Kathy would be quite the team. The end of cable as we know it.

  43. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Don’t feel bad about the dates. It was clear enough. I don’t remember the exact dates, except that I was in college.

  44. I was 10 and distinctly remember thinking, “Another New Year’s Eve show? That’s stupid..we have Guy Lombardo!”

    From Guy Lombardo’s Wiki:

    While CBS carried most of the Lombardo New Year’s specials, there were a few years in the late 1960s and early 1970s when the special was syndicated live to individual TV stations instead of being broadcast on a network.

    By the middle 1970’s, the Lombardo TV show was facing competition, especially for younger viewers, from Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve, but Lombardo remained popular among viewers, especially older ones.

    Even after Lombardo’s death, the band’s New Year’s specials continued for two more years on CBS. The Royal Canadians were noted for playing the traditional song Auld Lang Syne as part of the celebrations. Their recording of the song still plays as the first song of the new year in Times Square.

  45. Here’s the dumb thing about my dumb brain: I still think of Rockin’ Eve as “the new one”.😉

  46. Christianity is openly attacked on a daily basis in the media and pop culture. But it’s cool because jeebus.

    This is true. I don’t think evangelicals who speak openly on politics have done Christians any favors – in fact, they’ve done a huge disservice to religion when they fight for the rich and the powerful – but it’s undeniable that Christianity has been under a relentless assault from the far-left for years.

    Yeah, I agree that Christianity shouldn’t be taught in public schools and I don’t think that teachers should lead prayer in classes – but it never ended there. After that, the atheists and the far-left wanted schools to punish children who prayed on their own free will. They’ve fought to have any references to Jesus or Christianity omitted from curriculums altogether but they want kids to be taught “tolerance” towards Islam and other religions.

    I identify myself as a liberal and think that many of us are on the right side of things and fight for issues that matter. Sadly, there are a great many who want to wage a relentless assault on the traditional order of things. I have no problem whatsoever with marriage equality but I’m not going to openly accept the LGBT lifestyle.

    And I don’t think it’s right to demonize anyone and everyone who doesn’t think the LGBT lifestyle is perfectly acceptable. Older people, religious people and rural conservatives are never going to embrace it. Younger conservatives and younger Christians will accept the fact that it’s a thing but they’ll never embrace it like the far-left wants everyone to.

  47. It may be thoughtful, but Andy makes a lot of statements as though he speaks as a mainstream liberal. I don’t know any other liberals with his particular set of political views.

  48. Might be his age group

  49. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I’ll let the liberals fight out amongst themselves who and who isn’t a true believer.

    Ill post random music, instead:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dumjFFQijBI

  50. Larry, LGBT issues are a defining issue for people who are only a couple years younger than I am. I might be young but I’m barely old enough that 9/11 and Iraq were the defining issues of my teenage years. I’ve dated girls who are only a couple years younger than I am where LGBT issues was the definitive issue of their teenage years.

    This is something that’s really only evolved in the last 5-8 years. The very first time marriage equality was even discussed in a civics debate in my high school years was when Karl Rove used ballot initiatives as a wedge issue. Seeing as the Iraq war was still in it’s climax, it was a non-issue.

  51. +1 to Andy’s comment. There’s this movement on the left that’s trying to push liberals towards the extreme end. Same with the right and conservatives. These fundamentalist types are going to destroy America, for that matter most of the English-speaking world with their divisive tactics.

  52. The far left should quit fighting the culture wars while they’re ahead. Social conservatives have waved the surrender flag on social issues. If the left wants to keep it up, they’re going to piss off the evangelicals and, in the process, they’re going to discover that a majority of young people are unapologetically pro-life.

  53. Conversely O’Reilly’s phony war on christmas is comical.
    He wants to take a hand full of local news stores and turn them into a national war on Christmas.

    If there is a war than FOX News Channel is a part of it as they keep airing “Happy Holidays” promos daily even though Hanukkah was over on December 5th and there is no other holiday before Christmas.

  54. The “War On Christmas” hooey is also anti-free speech. You can’t claim to support it, then demand that some girl at a cash register say the words you want to hear. If the boss wants her to say Happy Holidays, she’s gonna say Happy Holidays. Take it to the Supreme Court if you don’t like it. And good luck.

  55. I would support the war on Christmas in a battle to limit the playing of carols in stores to a maximum of three days.

  56. Tonight on Piers Morgan Live, SE Cupp fills in for Piers and spends the hour interviewing Glenn Beck (her boss at The Blaze).

    Nope, no conflict of interest there.

  57. Wow, not quite what I expected from Andy but almost exactly how I feel. Pigs do fly!

  58. AJAM is so great. Actual news without ducks!

  59. That Kelly File promo about the ad Democrats should be afraid was much to do about nothing.

    Some group who hates Obamacare made an ad attacking a New Hampshire senator who voted for Obamacare and The Washington Post called a ad every Democrat should be scared of.
    Just another Obamcare bashing segment. Move along.

  60. The choices at 10pm are Beyonce on CNN, Lockup on MSNBC.
    Hannity is,
    A Block DUCKS DYNASTY CONTROVERSY
    B Block DUCKS DYNASTY CONTROVERSY
    C Block DUCKS & DOUBLE STANDARDS
    D Block PRESIDENTIAL NEWS CONFERENCE
    E Block RADICALISM RISING
    F Block BUILDING HOMES FOR HEROES

    AJA Consider This is talking about Obama’s Press Conference.

  61. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:


    If there is a war than FOX News Channel is a part of it as they keep airing “Happy Holidays” promos daily even though Hanukkah was over on December 5th and there is no other holiday before Christmas.

    Advent. Some of us think it important.

  62. bans on g*y marriage continue to go the way of Jim Crow laws as New Mexico and now Utah become the latest states to legalize the practice. Utah will most likely appeal the ruling but the direction of the movement in the country is clear. G*y marriage is going to be legal everywhere in the US in this decade.

  63. Maybe, but sushi is legal everywhere and I still can say it is yuck.

  64. ICE complains about Hannity tonite never mentioning Hannity isn’t even hosting…Tucker Carlson is. Getting a bit sloppy in your reporting, buddy.

  65. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Some group who hates Obamacare made an ad attacking a New Hampshire senator who voted for Obamacare and The Washington Post called a ad every Democrat should be scared of.

    By this time next year, the Democrats will wish that they never heard of Barack Hussein Obama.

  66. Not need to type g*y anymore, Fritz, as the Word Press Word Police has mome to the conclusion “gay” isn’t a bad word.

    gay
    ……gay
    ………….gay

  67. Everybody knows his middle name. It stopped being scary in 2004.

  68. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Everybody knows his middle name. It stopped being scary in 2004.

    Your point being? Many presidents are referred to by all three names, e.g. Richard Milhous Nixon, Lyndon Baines Johnson, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and George Hiram Walker Bush.

  69. I know who George Herbert Walker Bush is. Never heard of Hiram… Wouldn’t be prudent at this juncture.

  70. Pretty sure Hiram Walker is an adult beverage of some sort. An amusing one, at that.

  71. Hiram Walker Distillery in Windsor, ON.

  72. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Pretty sure Hiram Walker is an adult beverage of some sort. An amusing one, at that.

    That’s why I went with Hiram, instead of Herbert. I am a hopeless smartass.

  73. George Wtf-Am-I-Doing-Here Bush. FTW.

  74. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Hiram Walker Distillery in Windsor, ON.

    If you ever have a chance to go on an industrial tour, take it.

  75. “ICE complains about Hannity tonite never mentioning Hannity isn’t even hosting…Tucker Carlson is.”
    Not sure how listing the segments of a show is a complaint and the name of the show is Hannity not Carlson.😛

  76. Oh, glad you weren’t complaining. I thought they were pretty good too.

  77. Prefer Kentucky bourbon myself.

  78. Everybody knows his middle name. It stopped being scary in 2004.

    Who sane?

  79. I like rum. Rum is good.

  80. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Everybody knows his middle name. It stopped being scary in 2004.

    Who sane?

    I presume he meant Adolf Elizabeth Hitler.

  81. George Wtf-Am-I-Doing-Here Bush. FTW.

    Sounds about right!

  82. So… A & E asked Phil not to talk to much to reporters. See article:

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-duck-dynasty-ae-warned-phil-robertson-about-speaking-out-too-much-20131220,0,7276941.story#axzz2o7LGQqzN

    My question is? Did Phil “talk to much to the [GQ] reporter” (while they were out and about on 4 wheelers (I’ve read), with no publicist in sight – though I heard she was waiting for them)
    because A & E told them to stop saying “in Jesus’ name” at the end of their prayers? All because it might “offend” someone?

    I’m thinking this whole comment wasn’t as off the cuff as we were led to believe. “Stupid” Phil, who heads a multi-million $ company maybe played A & E knowing that if he spouted off and said something that would break the morals clause of his contract it would get him out of reality show that stopped being reality for him (them).

    You know, some producer probably said “stop being so G** damned religious! We could play to an even bigger audience if we got that aspect out of the show.”

    My own speculation.

  83. I find it ever so slightly encouraging when Bernie Goldberg (and O’Reilly as well for that matter) can’t hold their noses and bring themselves to tow the ‘conservative’ instinct to impulsively defend hateful idiocy. Pretty good segment here:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-goldberg-hits-the-right-over-duck-dynasty-conservatives-reflexively-defend-ignorance/

    I’d also like to know which churches you attend at which spouting off about the superiority of v@ginas to anu5es is considered a display of faith.

  84. A vulgar paraphrase of a Biblical norm.

  85. The truth for Democrats is that ObamaCare isn’t only what will make middle class voters just vote against them, it will make these voters HATE them:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/business/new-health-law-frustrates-many-in-middle-class.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131221&_r=0

  86. Comment from a MD on this NYT article:

    “I looked at these plans for my patients and neither one had an option that was better than what they already had; one has Cobra and the other has a small business plan. In both cases the deductibles in the Exchange were higher and the premiums were higher. I had been a big supporter of Obamacare up until I saw the details. My conclusion is that the insurance companies have been given free rein to charge what they want and cover what they want so it’s to their advantage not to the patient’s advantage. These plans are expensive or have huge deductibles. The only plus side is if you have no insurance at all at least this is something.”

  87. A vulgar paraphrase of a Biblical norm.

    No, see, it’s not that at all. The reason Bill-O’s commentary on this has been noteworthy is that he’s one of the few figures with a ‘Christian’ perspective who has bothered to point out that Robertson’s juvenile posturing is a perversion of Biblical teaching, and a complete misrepresentation of Christ’s message.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/video-embed.html?video_id=2956614201001

    This is the problem among many on the right. The frequent problem on the left is hypocrisy. If he/she is one of us, it’s okay, let’s just ignore how stupid or vile they are. On the right it’s a total inability to delineate between real traditional values and backwards ignorant anger.

  88. If they did it to break the contract, it’s genius. I also appreciated Goldberg’s comments about the Left defending trash like Miley Cyrus. They’re perfectly happy to see the culture go down the toilet, and kids inundated with bad messages, as long as it pisses off conservatives.

  89. gnome for the holidays

  90. Meanwhile, Brian Boitano cane out of the closet and we all yawned.

  91. Hah. I thought Lowry wrote it. Even so.

  92. TJ is subbing on MSNBC 2pm-4pm.

  93. According to Entertainment Weekly Phil Robertson’s suspension will end on Jan. 15th; before the start of next season shows. Because last season is finished and rebroadcasts aren’t covered by the suspension; no DD shows will actually not be broadcast.

    The suspension appears to cover a period when there is nothing to suspend. Kinda like suspending an athlete during their sports off season. Glad we worked that out.🙂

  94. WHY the MSM stopped reporting the Colorado shooting:

    http://bit.ly/194wE92

  95. According to Entertainment Weekly…

    The thought crossed my mind yesterday but seemed far too cynical to type it out loud. Robertson’s was a GQ interview – which seems outright weird to me all by itself – that included a question that everyone including A&E already knew how he would answer and could have predicted would eventually be asked… conducted just early enough before Christmas that fall-out from the subsequent controversy resulted in millions of dollars worth of Duck Dynasty retail products to fly off the shelf before the post-holiday discounts kicked in.

    I don’t know… just sayin’. But there’s a few investors out there who are Happy Happy Happy.

  96. Hi everybody! Oh..still talking about Old Duck Guy? Is there a dumber, more boring story in the history of everything? Bye!

  97. …and O’Reilly as well for that matter) can’t hold their noses and bring themselves to tow the ‘conservative’ instinct…

    Bill O’Reilly is demonstrably not a conservative, nor does he claim to be.

    complete misrepresentation of Christ’s message … is the problem among many on the right.

    Arguably true if you include “among many on the left” because it is many religious who hold these views and that includes plenty who routinely vote the Democratic ticket. Some refer to this group as “social conservatives” but that’s simply a mask used by some liberal politicians who run for office in heavily religious districts or by liberals as a device to conflate “religious” with “conservatism” for political advantage.

  98. This is the problem among many on the right. The frequent problem on the left is hypocrisy. If he/she is one of us, it’s okay, let’s just ignore how stupid or vile they are. On the right it’s a total inability to delineate between real traditional values and backwards ignorant anger.

    The right’s reaction is as hypocritical as it gets. If Phil Robertson had said liberal things and gotten “suspended”, the right wouldn’t give a single quack.

    Hardcore conservatives constantly call for boycotts of the “lame stream media”. They demanded Martin Bashir’s head and then, when liberal MSNBC fired him, they tried to say “the left” defended him. Um, no, many liberals condemned Bashir’s comments and wanted him fired. This is what they do and have done for years. Liberal says something, liberals condemn the commentary, conservatives get offended, conservatives call for the liberal to be fired and then go around and say liberals defend it.

    I also saw Newsbusters try to claim that the media has condemned Phil Robertson and defended Martin Bashir. Also BS. Most of the media coverage I’ve seen, they’ve defended Phil Robertson. And Martin Bashir was condemned by a whole lot of people.

    Then there’s the whole Dixie Chicks thing. Now, conservatives are trying to say they didn’t call for boycotts and didn’t want them banned from airwaves, they just refused to buy their records. That’s revisionist crap. Those girls were torched by the media. I remember conservatives protesting them, burning their CDs, calling for radio stations to ban them from their airwaves and so on. There hasn’t been a public lynching of an entertainer that’s even come close to the way those girls were lynched by conservatives and the media which, at the time, was serving as Bush’s cheerleaders.

    In fact, just about anyone and everyone who didn’t support the Iraq war was silenced. Egregiously so. And those of us on “the left” had to deal with years of being told we hate our country.

    Let’s not forget “Freedom Fries” and “Freedom Toast” while we’re at it.

    You can support Phil Robertson all you want. But you don’t get to revise history. Conservatives are just as anti-free speech as Liberals – if not more so.

  99. Think there is any truth to this?

    http://t.mediaite.com/mediaite/#!/entry/meet-the-press-reportedly-in-jeopardy-as-nbc-looks-to,52b5c490b7d8d24162bd95bc/1

    Doubt it. NBC News does have an image problem though – one that’s not necessarily fair. A lot of people equate NBC News to MSNBC – either because they see the peacock on MSNBC or because Fox News constantly says MSNBC is NBC News. Add in that David Gregory is a horrible moderator and should’ve been replaced a long time ago.

    NBC News is going to have to reign in MSNBC. And David Gregory’s got to go. Chuck Todd would be a better choice though that would irritate the far-left who hates him because he goes on MSNBC and calls Democrats out. Kelly O’Donnell would probably be an even better host.

  100. NBC News is equated to MSNBC because NBC News operates MSNBC. NBCU can change this tomorrow if it believes this to be a serious enough problem.

  101. A&E is going to let this hate-speech man go into a Christmas marathon and all next season new shows as well as sell his merchandise? What exactly are the principles they are standing up for? 40 lashes with a wet noodle?

    But folks, Black Santa is just crying for us to get back to him and his demand for a fake apology. Black Jesus weeps for the fading outrage. Damn these duck people to blazes!

  102. I also appreciated Goldberg’s comments about the Left defending trash like Miley Cyrus. They’re perfectly happy to see the culture go down the toilet, and kids inundated with bad messages, as long as it pisses off conservatives.

    The extremes of both sides only want to spite the other side. “Obama Care” is perfect evidence of the left wanting to spite the right. The left should’ve turned their backs on “Obama Care” when our dumbass president sold out on the left and worked behind their backs to kill the public option. But the right didn’t like it so they still pushed for it and rammed it down our throats. It was more important to spite the right and get a “victory”. Our loss.

  103. Bill Maher lost his show after Ari Fleischer said “people need to watch what they say”. The Dixie Chicks lost their career after massive boycotts which got them yanked from country radio. Both cases are a matter of free speech and its consequences, but neither side has a claim of purity when it comes to demanding the heads of media people they disagree with.

  104. I thought the Dixie gals got a baked magazine cover and a boost to their career?

  105. baked? did he say baked? NAKED

  106. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Wasn’t Paula Deen one of the Dixie Chicks?

  107. – Black Santa –

    Quit trolling with your race-baiting BS.

    – Dixie Chicks –

    They got a Rolling Stone cover and one hit song on pop radio out of that mess. Their career as one of the biggest country acts in the nation was over, and so was the rest after that song. The band no longer exists.

  108. worry about your own stuff

  109. I’m not clear where this “Left defends Miley Cyrus” idea came from. There is no left/right divide over some pop singer, and much has been written about her strange performance at the AMA’s, plus concerns about her emotional state. This is a strange choice for an ideological argument.

  110. “Wasn’t Paula Deen one of the Dixie Chicks?”

    No, but Anthony Weiner was a Chixie Dix.

  111. Such a horrible, offensive song.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXw3XhlmTcs

    Because being anti-war was unpatriotic in 2003. Nevermind that Natalie Maines was on the right side of history.

  112. what ever happened to Bill Maher?

  113. worry about your own stuff

    You keep running these bizarre attacks against people who didn’t appreciate Megyn’s little stunt, and I’ll keep responding. “Black Santa” is race-baiting over a topic we’re not even discussing, and I’m not going to put up with it. You really do not understand “knock it off”.

  114. neither side has a claim of purity

    Absolutely correct. I think the larger point should be that these “faults” are not rightly attributable to either “side” as a whole, but to individuals within both the left and right. We generalise far too much.

    Earlier I commented on “religious” being used for political advancement of liberal politicians in religious districts. I think that’s correct, but Sarah Palin is a good example of “religious” being used for the advancement of conservative politics… and/or herself.

  115. I’m not clear where this “Left defends Miley Cyrus” idea came from. There is no left/right divide over some pop singer, and much has been written about her strange performance at the AMA’s, plus concerns about her emotional state. This is a strange choice for an ideological argument.

    I saw a ton of it. There are all sorts of columns about how Miley’s performance should be celebrated because she was a woman confident with herself, denouncing her critics and so on. I had left wing bloggers telling me I needed to support her because she was an unapologetic liberal.

    Mika Brzezinski’s the only person I saw on the left who had it right. To be honest, Mika’s reaction was perfect and nailed it. Miley’s got problems. She’s not healthy – mentally or physically.

  116. The part where the angry guy acts out.

  117. I don’t think the Dixie Chicks were shunned and put out of business by the right as much as they were by the cultural South. Patriotism is an “ism” that runs strong among hard-core country music fans.. even in Canada.

  118. Got to be a bit old in the beak too.

  119. Did their record label suspend them?

  120. this whole DUCK controversy, though covered non stop by cable news does take the emphasis away from blog nitpicking FOX, MSNBC, or CNN because you can see a variety of opinions everywhere. From that POV it’s a nice vacation.

  121. This “free speecher” is. She said something incredibly insensitive and stupid (probably after a few pre-flight drinks), and has already lost her job over it. We’ve all said something we regret. She apologized; it’s over.

  122. She’s right – almost like the LEFT wanted an angry mob to attack her when she arrived. Made a snap joke about aids no worse than the new Whitehouse Chief of Staff made about Republicans. Both made a joke out of a deadly serious issue. He still has a job.

    #burnthewitch

  123. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    We agree, Joe. She screwed up and paid a big price for it. Hopefully, she’ll land on her feet and put this down to a lesson learned.

  124. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    She’s right – almost like the LEFT wanted an angry mob to attack her when she arrived. Made a snap joke about aids no worse than the new Whitehouse Chief of Staff made about Republicans. Both made a joke out of a deadly serious issue. He still has a job.

    #burnthewitch

    Larry, Podesta should’ve been fired immediately. Mabye the President found the reference to a mass suicide of 900+ humorous.

  125. I’ve decided that human flight is unnatural, and drunken airport/plane tweets are proof. The concept (and fear) freaks our brains out and turns us into idiots.

  126. Podesta should be fired for a stupid, tasteless comment? I thought we were done demanding firings for speech. I’m confused.

  127. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I only became nuts after I stopped flying.

  128. why she lost her job is the issue to me. should not have.

  129. that and the mob

  130. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Podesta should be fired for a stupid, tasteless comment? I thought we were done demanding firings for speech. I’m confused.

    Someone with a very high position in the government comparing the opposition to the People’s Temple, a murderous cult, should’ve had the decency to resign. But, like I said earlier, perhaps Obama thinks that the mass suicide of 900+, mostly blacks, is great comedy.

  131. if you shopped at TARGET.COM, you won

  132. Ah, “fired” is now “should have resigned”. That’s less draconian, but I still disagree. People should be able to apologize for being stupid, assuming they don’t use the “if you were offended” or “I used the wrong word to be horrible” defense.

  133. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    why she lost her job is the issue to me. should not have.</em.

    It's a private company. If they think that her comments will reflect poorly on them, they have every right to. Would I have? No. I would've let her have one more chance, but told her to watch her a$$.

  134. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Ah, “fired” is now “should have resigned”. That’s less draconian, but I still disagree. People should be able to apologize for being stupid, assuming they don’t use the “if you were offended” or “I used the wrong word to be horrible” defense.

    Podesta should’ve been given the chance to resign or be fired. This is more than being “stupid.” This was joking about mass suicide.

  135. I think what Justine Sacca said could be quite funny and not at all insensitive if shared at the right time, in the right context, and with the right group of people – amongst a bunch of hard-core AIDS researchers who are all your personal friends, for example. I don’t think tweeting it to the Twitterverse is remotely any of that.

    I would not have considered firing her for that unless her primary duties included “public relations”… and there you go.

  136. Company had every right to fire the girl, but the fact they didn’t wait until the mob dissipated to do so, …with no protocol… ugly.

  137. You’d think she was Shirley Sherrod.

  138. I thought we were fighting against “political correctness”. People have become so wrapped up in partisan bickering that they’ve completely lost their sense of humor.

    The girl made a stupid, insensitive joke and got fired over it. People didn’t agree with the commentary of her joke and have no problem. And that’s all it comes down to.

    “Free speech” people only care about free speech when it’s something they agree with.

    Christians agreed with Phil Robertson’s remarks about h0m0sexuality and Conservatives twisted themselves in a knot to defend Robertson by saying stuff like “All he said was that he was a Christian” and claimed he was being “attacked by the liberal media for being a Christian”. Which isn’t true. The man basically said h0m0sexuality leads to beastality and said blacks were happy when they were being treated like second class citizens during the “pre-entitlement, pre-welfare” era of Jim Crow laws.

  139. Yes, being a PR person certainly put the PR company in a bind here. And they waited about as long as it took for her to sober up and get some sleep, which was fair.

  140. While the remarks of Phil Robertson and Justine Sacca can be construed to be equally crude and insensitive, their respective situations are not at all equivalent. Ms. Sacca was the company’s public relations executive.

  141. That’s about how long it should have taken Obams to fire the IRS lady, but procedures had to be followed they say.

  142. Al, when you’re a television personality like Phil Robertson is, you’re also in public relations, whether you like it or not. If a NASCAR driver got on Twitter and made racist remarks, they’d be “suspended” in world record time as well and would probably lose their ride because they represent the sport, the team they race for and sponsors. Phil Robertson represents A&E.

  143. In the Obama Administration Ms. Sacca might have been promoted to do PR for the improved Health Care website.

  144. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    procedures had to be followed

    Leave the gun. Get the cannolis.

  145. Phil Robertson’s persona, both in real life and as depicted on Duck Dynasty, is exactly as the man who said what he said. That’s been his contribution to “public relations” both before and since A&E signed him on.

  146. NBC NEWS does a story tonight on the CHRISTMAS STORY house. My Neighbor posted a picture this morning of he and the wife visiting it. Ohio does have its treasures.

  147. Al and Larry, I was almost fired from a job I had, when I was 20, because I got a speeding ticket in Baltimore County. In my personal vehicle. On my day off. Even though I wasn’t working that day, they invoked crap about I still represent them and it’d be a liability and they could get bad press for it. It was overkill but the lesson I learned that day was that this is a new time… EVERYTHING is public knowledge and your employer can and will fire you if they think your actions, on your own time, can reflect negatively on them.

    It’s the world we live in and it sucks. But that’s the price of technology and instant information.

  148. A letter to Bobby Jindal on ‘Duck Dynasty,’ and freedom of speech from Joy Reid.
    http://www.msnbc.com/melissa-harris-perry/duck-dynasty-bobby-jindal-free-speech

  149. You can get fired for not getting enough sleep or drinking too much (or both), too, because it affects your job. Nobody has a “right” to work. You gotta talk them into hiring you, and try not to talk them out of it.

  150. A&E does employee a public relations executive. If that person spoke exactly the same words as Phil Robertson during a GQ interview, then he or should be fired. And this would be the case even if that person is the same age as Phil Robertson, grew up next door to him, and still attends the same church.

    There has been no rational debate about whether or not A&E had the right to fire Robertson; It absolutely does. Should they? The general consensus of most on both the left and right has answered “no”. Justine Sacca’s situation is very different and not because of the content of her tweet.

  151. You can get fired for drinking at a bar on a Friday night because someone could post a picture on Facebook and that company could feel that you’re representing them negatively or because that picture gives your employer the perception that you’ve got a drinking problem.

    Welcome to the 21st Century. The only way you’re safe from petty stuff like that is if you’re in a union. And even then, you’re not safe. Every company has a morals clause and most companies now have clauses in employment contracts about social media as well.

  152. If you work for the government you can get fired for murder and disloyalty after two years of hearings.

  153. I always assume the only thing the company owed me was the pay check for past hours worked. You stay happier if you think that way.

  154. If you work for the government, you can get fired at the drop of the hat for just about anything unless you’re protected by a union. Just about everyone invokes morality clauses now. The higher profile your job is, the more careful you’ve got to be.

  155. Over a third of government workers are unionized. Much more so than the private sector.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/23/business/23labor.html?_r=0

  156. Absolutely correct. I think the larger point should be that these “faults” are not rightly attributable to either “side” as a whole, but to individuals within both the left and right. We generalise far too much.

    Earlier I commented on “religious” being used for political advancement of liberal politicians in religious districts. I think that’s correct, but Sarah Palin is a good example of “religious” being used for the advancement of conservative politics… and/or herself.

    I can’t deny for a second that the far-left has waged war on Christianity but let’s be honest, the fundamentalists have spent 150 years trying to infringe on the liberties of others.

    The golden rule of politics: Once you use the government to infringe on the rights of others, you open the door to your liberties being infringed upon.

  157. This is the very reason why the founding fathers wanted religion and government to be two separate things.

  158. Just saw this on CNN, from this afternoon. The great thing about CNN is that I don’t have to wonder if they’re telling me the truth, or just passing something along that sounds good enough to get me worked up.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/politics/obamacare-insurers-dumping-doctors/

  159. ^ Conversely, whenever someone says “Here’s a Fox News Alert: More trouble for Obamacare today”, I automatically assume it’s trumped up BS before I even hear the story. They’re not helping.

  160. The founding fathers did not intend for public policy or government itself to be entirely free from matters of faith. We bring our faith or lack thereof with us wherever we go. They simply wanted to insure that something like “The Church” could not be used as a back-door method of thwarting individual liberties.
    —–

    I have an older patient with almost no family who needs jaw surgery and has to travel nearly 50 miles to the one surgeon in the area who can accept her Medicare. She can’t drive, either.

  161. Hopefully she has a “helping-hands” group in her area that can drive her. We have many in Ohio that provide medical transportation. Most are church sponsored. They don’t ask for donations, but are happy to get them.

  162. Don’t have to worry about CNN telling the truth… like the U.S. Army using nerve gas on civilians.

  163. This is John King reporting they have caught the bomber…

  164. Wolf, you have nothing to fear. The poop on the cruise ship is no threat to you in the studio, but if you come closer to your screen you might see some…

  165. Ah, so I guess that means we shouldn’t believe CNN when they criticize ACA. Glad you cleared that up for us.

  166. I have someone on that to help find her a ride. Bigger issue is that there’s only one surgeon. This isn’t the “sticks”. Brought someone down for a consult hoping that together we could somehow call this “critical” and then just send her upstairs and get this done for her for free. Oh well. I tried. Damnit.

  167. Pirro gets it wrong saying Phil Robertson was just quoting directly from the bible. That’s not all he was doing.
    She is also ignoring the comments on the pre-civil rights era.

  168. Ooh, personal foul. CNN wasn’t “criticizing” ACA, they were reporting on it. You know, in a way that indicates that they don’t have an obvious personal stake in how the audience perceives the story. No scary graphics, no buzzwords, none of the attention-grabbing business that you see on other networks.

  169. “Top of last nights ratings, I LOVE LUCY.” – Larry

    I’m so glad. I watched it last night and loved it. If CBS ran an uncut “I Love Lucy” every Friday night, I’d watch.

  170. The sad part is this is just going to get worse as the flood of low paying plans, being Medicare, Medicaid, of Exchange Specials compete for fewer and fewer surgeons and hospitals participating.

  171. Of course Pirro BSed it. Anyone who’s actually read The Book knows Robertson augmented his Scripture references with his own vulgar language. She’s not too bright.

  172. Carol, there is not a single reality show I watch, none. Sad that TV is more saturated with them than westerns in the 1950’s. Those at least I enjoyed watching.

  173. They simply wanted to insure that something like “The Church” could not be used as a back-door method of thwarting individual liberties.

    But it was, for over a century and a half. Legislating morality, banning behavior – all because fundamentalists believed certain behaviors went against THEIR religion.

    Now, they’re on the opposite end of the spectrum as the far-left wages war on Christianity. Christians feel their religious rights are under attack, and they are. It’s not right and I’m not defending it. I’m just saying, they opened Pandora’s Box.

  174. The Puritans built Pandora’s box. Hollywood opened it.

  175. FNC bad acting alert!
    Only Pirro uses a fake acting rant about John Kerry commenting on the Indian doplomat to bash Obama on Benghazi.
    She even did the phoney Olbermann head turn at the end and almost started laughing at how fake it was.

  176. Still, Lucy and Ricky slept in twin beds.

  177. Robinson’s right. Bestiality is right around the comer for legalization. Kinsey reported 17% of all farm boys had sex with the animals. In today’s thinking it makes no sense to treat so many people as criminals.

  178. But it was, for over a century and a half. Legislating morality,

    That was not the doings of “The Church”. It was legislation conducted on behalf of the will of the majority at the time. Those who hold religious views are entitled to just as much say in their government as those who don’t. It was also a very different time when even those who didn’t want to conform to any religion still basically agreed, so it’s somewhat unfair to characterise those years through the values of our time.

  179. Yeah, a guy who makes a living selling duck calls has the moral high ground here when talking about bestiality…

  180. Doesn’t hurt me in any way, so why should I care?

  181. Yes, the actual truth here is that “Robinson” (that’s not his name) was right about bestiality. Brilliant.

  182. He was right that liberal logic leads to its legalization. Not brilliant… elementary.

  183. colon – Unfortunately.

  184. Red Eye used to be a good show and now it’s totally boring.
    The “None of these segments tonight on Red Eye” opening is already played out.
    Andy as the ombudsman made the show funny. It’s not the same now that he’s a regular at the table.
    Bill leaving also makes the show less funny.
    It was a funny show when they would discuss topics that were not already being discussed all day on FNC.

  185. colon, greater than, & right parenthesis

  186. Friday morning’s Red Eye was ok but still not the edgy fun hour it once was. They changed the format to keep it ‘fresh’ and in the process lost the magic.

  187. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Yeah, a guy who makes a living selling duck calls has the moral high ground here when talking about bestiality…</em.

    The duck calls are intended to call the ducks so that you can shoot them, not schtup them.

  188. I really hope you all took a break from cable news to watch SNL tonight. The kind of must-see TV that it used to be.

  189. Everything Greg Gutfeld and Andy Levy have was built with Bill Schulz, and they gave him 12 seconds. I don’t watch what’s left of that show anymore.

  190. 2 and 1/2 hours ’til airtime here, Al. I’ll check it out.

  191. The duck calls are intended to call the ducks so that you can shoot them, not schtup them.

    Looks to me like you need to locate your sense of humor.

  192. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Looks to me like you need to locate your sense of humor.

    My sense of humor is fine. I was answering your post:

    “Yeah, a guy who makes a living selling duck calls has the moral high ground here when talking about bestiality.”

    If you make a comment about duck calls and bestiality, you have to expect some smartass to comment.

  193. Seems obvious now, but I should have known it was over for the Duck when they had branded sugar cookies at Walmart.

  194. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/meet-the-press-reportedly-in-jeopardy-as-nbc-looks-to-cut-back-dc-bureau/

    to be replace with RONCO miracle hamburger press infomercial! the Popeil PRESS THE MEAT.

  195. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/meet-the-press-reportedly-in-jeopardy-as-nbc-looks-to-cut-back-dc-bureau/

    to be replace with RONCO miracle hamburger press infomercial! the Popeil PRESS THE MEAT.

    And if you order right now, Ron will throw in his nephew Anthony’s invention, the WEINER STEAMER.

  196. “Everything Greg Gutfeld and Andy Levy have was built with Bill Schulz, and they gave him 12 seconds. I don’t watch what’s left of that show anymore.” – Joe

    So true. I’ve watched a few times, but it’s not must-watch TV for me anymore.

  197. Never was my cup of tea — except the animations.

  198. “Carol, there is not a single reality show I watch, none. Sad that TV is more saturated with them than westerns in the 1950′s. Those at least I enjoyed watching.” – Larry

    I don’t like reality TV, either. You can still watch re-runs of westerns on TVLAND (Bonanza, Gunsmoke) or INSP (The Big Valley, The Virginian, High Chaparral). Westerns are shown all day on Saturday on INSP. It’s called “Saddle Up Saturday.” Rawhide, featuring a very young and handsome Clint Eastwood, is shown every Saturday on AMC. The Rifleman, with Brooklyn-born and raised Chuck Connors, is also shown every Saturday on AMC. Good heavens, I need to get a life.

  199. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I only watch Red Eye when Patti Ann Browne is on. She’s my Lily Langtry.

  200. Larry’s Sunday Moment of Irony

    Conan O’Brian did a funny pice on local cable news anchors at multiple stations doing a dippy present-buying segment — all reading the same words from the same script.

    Both Reliable Sources and Media Buzz used the same footage, poking fun at the lack of originality.

  201. Better spike the egg nog first:

    “If you’ve got grandkids, make it a Christmas treat around the table to talk about a little health care.” — First lady Michelle Obama, trying to sell Obamacare

  202. “Seems obvious now, but I should have known it was over for the Duck when they had branded sugar cookies at Walmart.”

    ^^Can’t wait for the bobbleheads.😉

    It’s interesting that while the media was going apesh*t over Phil Robertson’s h*mophobic comments, New Mexico and Utah were quietly legalizing g*y marriage. The horse has left the barn and some old geezer swearing at it ain’t goin’ bring the horse back home.

  203. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Better spike the egg nog first:

    “If you’ve got grandkids, make it a Christmas treat around the table to talk about a little health care.” — First lady Michelle Obama, trying to sell Obamacare

    Yeah, it’ll be a treat for the kids to tell you to STFU.

  204. Fox News Sunday loaded up and sunk the Duck Dynasty story. Kraut and George Will agreed Robertson’s language was ugly and his employer has a right to suspend him; Born Again Christian Kirsten Powers pointed out the words were not scriptural. She also mentioned that the comments about African-Americans were offensive and “not covered enough”, which was a nice shot at her network: Everyone but FNC has covered them extensively. Nice work all around.

  205. You should see the abuse Kirsten Powers is getting on Twitter.

  206. – Kirsten Powers –

    I can imagine. I don’t always agree with the way she presents things on FNC, but she gets a horrendous amount of abuse on Twitter..much of it quite vile. I’m sure it’s gotten worse since she established herself as a liberal Christian a few weeks ago.

  207. probably the same jerks who tweeted they hoped the AIDS joker girl’s plane would crash

    But none of them will lose their job as they hide behind a mask

  208. I thought both the cable media shows this morning did a good job covering all angles of duckgate

  209. Probably not. PR Girl got it from the left. Kirsten is getting hit from the Christian right, including one genius who called her the c-word, then told her to “read the Bible”. Way to spread the love of Jesus, buddy.

  210. The genius who uses the c-word prolly not really hitting from the Christian right or left. Maybe he needs her to read him that Bible.

  211. Watching 60 Minutes. it is shot with HD cameras with no vanity filters. The production all the way to your TV set is the sharpest 1080p. So, one thing new I learned tonight is Susan Rice has absolutely beautiful teeth.

  212. I’ve been critical of Kirsten in the past (I can tell ’cause I just found out she blocked me on the twitters), but she’s a brave woman: A liberal on Fox News (liberals mad), who professes evangelical Christianity as a liberal (conservatives mad). This is not the easy way…

  213. I can switch my telly to watching broadcast channels via the antenna and the HD clarity is stunning. Not to say that it isn’t quite good over cable, but the difference is obvious.

    I seldom agree with Kirsten Powers yet always give special consideration to her opinions because she favours a logical approach in forming them. That she is always so honest in her assessments makes those who attack her personally appear quite foolish.

    Why would conservatives have a problem with a liberal who professes evangelical Christianity? There’s a boatload of Democratic voting evangelicals around here, although their candidates risk losing those votes when they’re too pushy about abortion.

  214. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    The genius who uses the c-word prolly not really hitting from the Christian right or left. Maybe he needs her to read him that Bible.

    Or needs hit upside the head with a Bible.

    I learned that word was way out of line when I called my 5th grade teacher that word and was expelled. The woman and her husband were honest-to-God N@zis. Both belonged to George Lincoln Rockwell’s American N@zi Party. She loved to taunt the Jewish kids. I’m not Jewish, but have zero use for bullies and bigots. Haven’t called a female that since.

    Lesson to be learned? Watch your mouth.

  215. First leaked photo from the set of Star Wars Episode VII
    http://preview.tinyurl.com/o2us5jo

  216. “Star Wars. Nothin’ but..STAR Warsss!! Thank-you-very-much!”

  217. Could be Kermit’s latest. Hard to tell.

  218. I’m old enough to remember blue screen… Actually white screen.

  219. May the Farce be with you.

  220. And also with you.

  221. Nice of CNN to start the 12pm hour with real news instead of the old Obamcare bashing on FNC at the top of every hour.

    Every hour on FNC starts with at least 7min of Obamacare bashing before they get to other news.

  222. Last day to sign up for ObamaCare to start 2014. The medical Katrina can’t have enough coverage. Only bashing here is from the perpetual ICE bashing robot.

  223. FNC is not doing news they are doing Obamcare bashing for the RNC. Jon Scott could not be more happier to report on Obamacare problems as he smiles and laughs.

    I do agree the ad campaign for the ACA is beyond stupid.
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/log-cabin-republicans-bash-obamacare-ad-for-gay-stereotypes-liberal-hypocrisy/

  224. Jon Scott could not be more happier to report on Obamacare problems as he smiles and laughs. The same with the F&F hosts.
    You are never going to convince me, or probably, Joe this is not a bashing for the sake of bashing to help Conservatives in the next election.

    I do agree the ad campaign for the ACA is beyond stupid.
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/log-cabin-republicans-bash-obamacare-ad-for-g@y-stereotypes-liberal-hypocrisy/

  225. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    You are never going to convince me, or probably, Joe this is not a bashing for the sake of bashing to help Conservatives in the next election.

    Telling the truth is not “bashing.”

  226. It is bashing when FNC does it as the top story on almost every show every hour.
    Cover other news first then do the Obamcare bashing.

  227. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    It is bashing when FNC does it as the top story on almost every show every hour.
    Cover other news first then do the Obamcare bashing.

    We certainly wouldn’t want to upset the Obamarhoids. Considering that today was the last day for most to sign up, no need to report that. It’s bashing and negativism. Good grief!

  228. Ronan Farrow was on ‘NOW’ today with Joy Reid in as sub-host. He did a segment on Al Shabab recruiting in Minnesota. As well there were a number of excerpts from some longer piece of reporting on the same subject. He looked poised and articulate but his appearance; a cross between a young Mia Farrow and Sinatra; is a bit distracting.

    I think that those who think he’s a lightweight that wants to turn his show into a hour of TMZ style reporting are in for a surprise. My guess his show will be more like Fareed Zakaria than Piers Morgan.

  229. copy Fareed? The third copy is usually pretty faded.

  230. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    a cross between a young Mia Farrow and Sinatra

    Rosemary’s baby was a boy.

  231. Rachel Washburn once carried pompoms for the the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles. Now she carries an M4 carbine and has a Bronze Star.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/22/us/cheerleader-turned-soldier-honored/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

  232. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Rachel Washburn once carried pompoms for the the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles. Now she carries an M4 carbine and has a Bronze Star.
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/22/us/cheerleader-turned-soldier-honored/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    People like her are the real proper role models for kids. And there are too damn many people who think that they are too good to serve.

  233. For anyone complaining about the Happy Holidays greeting on FNC, they have two greetings: One that says Happy Holidays and another that says Merry Christmas.

  234. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Carol, some here complain about all things FOX, regardless of what it is.

  235. ^ I’m beginning to see that, Nixon!

  236. Harris did a long segment on Fox Report yesterday which she presented as “all these problems with Obamacare and how people don’t like it blah blah blah”, then hosted a panel which agreed with her. That’s not news.

  237. You can’t have a tornado flatten the entire nation and not talk about it. That’s news. You could pretend tornados are good for you, I suppose.

  238. Yeah, no..there are no political sides to a tornado. An Obamacare segment which is heavily negative is realistic. An Obamacare segment which is frontloaded by the anchor as “a disaster”, then has a panel which only supports this theme, is a Republican campaign commercial.

  239. Whien the tornado dropped the house on the wicked witch from Kansa, disaster the best the flying monkeys could hope for.

  240. AJA is talking about the conflict in South Sudan.

    CNN is talking about weather for the first segment.

    MSNBC has Chris giving out his best and worst politics awards.

    FNC Greg is subbing for Bill and talking about Duck Dynasty.
    He’s not bad as a fill-in host if he would just not have to go into the lame jokes every other comment.

  241. Wow, you mean Greta actually challenged her on “free speech”? The fact that she needs to be schooled on this says SO much.
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/van-susteren-tells-palin-why-duck-dynasty-controversy-has-nothing-to-do-with-free-speech/

  242. Martha is subbing for Megyn on her “news” show and it’s the same old liberal bashing.
    So far it’s 3 conservatives bashing Obamacare and 1 bashing National Intel Director Clapper. FNC can’t find one liberal guest to debate them?

  243. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Oh the horror! FOX is bashing again! They are three and a half times worse than Hitler!

  244. Yes, news anchor Martha McCallum playing Megyn’s Republican propaganda role is a problem.

  245. Oh yeah, Martha’s on dayside. Where the straight news-people live. Supposedly. Snort.

  246. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Yes, news anchor Martha McCallum playing Megyn’s Republican propaganda role is a problem.

    A problem for the rabid left mabye.

  247. CNN just ran a promo for a broadcast of the new Pope’s first Vatican Christmas Mass live at 6pm ET on Tuesday.
    Usually the mass is only live on the religious channels and then broadcast on NBC at 12am.

  248. Yes, it’s only the “rabid left” who think dayside news anchors shouldn’t be acting like stars of a Republican CPAC ad, or tweeting like one. That’s kinda the problem..

  249. From the Mediaite Palin/Greta article:

    Palin agreed, reiterating that attorneys can decide whether it’s a “legal free speech issue or not.”

    This was the second time Palin threw this out. This time AFTER Greta explained the First Amendment to her. Five years after this woman almost became Vice-President of the United States.

  250. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    So, the ones doing the same for the Democrats on other channels don’t bother you? Interesting.

  251. You’re avoiding my specific criticism of a specific person on a specific channel by asking me about a mythical Other on Someplace Else. This does not qualify as an actual debate point.

  252. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I’m not avoiding anything. I was simply responding to your daily FOX is bad crap. It is tedious.

  253. I’m sorry that you think I’m tedious. Your response to “Fox anchors do Republican propaganda” seems to be “SO!?” I find this tedious, and if you don’t like legitimate criticism of a cable news channel on a cable news blog, there’s plenty of righty blogs you can hang out at.

  254. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Joe, you don’t run this place. If you have a problem with me, take it up with Spud.

  255. Nobody’s saying I run anything. If you’re gonna give me some bleating about “tedious”, I’m gonna tell you to get over yourself. You can discuss cable news with me, or ignore me. Your choice.

  256. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    there’s plenty of righty blogs you can hang out at.</em.

    Sure looked to me like you were trying to order me around.

    But, the same complaint day in, and day out, is tedious. We get your point. Mix it up a bit.

  257. But, the same complaint day in, and day out, is tedious. We get your point. Mix it up a bit.

    Now who’s ordering who? I comment on what I find interesting. I don’t have a particularly wide range of interests due to the brain-style I was born with, so this is whatcha get. Elsewhere on the interwebs I can be found chatting about bikes, Fiats and racing. That’s all I got.

  258. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Due to surgery, chemo, and radiation, I am really f**ked up. We deal with it as best we can.

    I’m not saying that you’re a bad guy, Joe. But you do get a bit intense.

  259. New Readers

    FNC is conservative in its point of view but they think they are fair in presenting the news from that view and give a balance to the more liberal point of view presented by CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NPR, etc.

    If you like to have examples of how awful it is that they do this and how awful their people are for doing this, and basically their awfulness of the minute, sit back and enjoy.

    Reruns hourly.

  260. Farewell to Mikhail Kalashnikov
    NRA Life Member and Second Amendment supporter

  261. Speed it up! Only one more Bashing Day until Christmas.

  262. Nixon, first off let me say I hope you are the best you can be under the circumstances.

    While I understand your and Larry’s dislike about the FNC posts,
    people being told their posts are repetitive and complaining daily about the FNC bashing does not help either.

    If either of you think someone is wrong come back with a counter point besides complaining about the FNC criticism. As Joe says this is a cable news blog.

    As I and others have said this place is tame compared to the wild west of other websites where people post whatever they want.

  263. Counterpoint:
    FOX is what it is and that’s just fine.

  264. And he was heard to exclaim
    as he hid out of sight,
    “They’re listening to you,
    let it give you a fright.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/12/24/Snowden-to-Give-UK-Channel-4-Alternative-Christmas-Address

  265. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Nixon, first off let me say I hope you are the best you can be under the circumstances.

    Thank you, Ice. I had a brain tumor removed 10 years ago last August. So far, so good, but my personality has definitely taken a turn for the worse.

  266. So far, so good, but my personality has definitely taken a turn for the worse.

    Same here, but I don’t have any medical condition I can put it on. I’m just 10 years older and crankier.😉

  267. MSNBC viewers get to spend all day in prison. TV guide doesn’t have a single news block for tomorrow. I don’t recall MSNBC ever not having news on Christmas at all.

  268. Merry Christmas everyone!

  269. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Merry Christmas everyone!

    kikwehsitoole Pam (Merry Christmas, Pam).

  270. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I left out two words in the translation. It should be kikwehsitoole Pam (Merry Christmas to you, Pam).

  271. There’s an interesting MSNBC schedule today.
    Instead of the regular shows MSNBC is doing news hours 9am-1pm and 2pm-5pm. Kristen Welker is on at 12pm. The regular shows are on 5pm-11pm.

    Friday shows a regular schedule to 8pm then taped programming.
    New Years Eve MSNBC is news 8am-4pm and New Years Day news is on 8am-1pm.

  272. Liberal MSNBC has little to talk about these days with Obama stinking up his job, but social conservative outrages and Republicans as villains.

    Now that republicans becoming more popular than Democrats
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/26/cnn-poll-gop-has-edge-in-early-midterm-indicator/
    look for TV to follow the clear path of radio:
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/liberal-commercial-talk-radio-disappears-ny-la-sf-2014

  273. NYC is pretty much all conservative talk radio.
    WABC owned by Cumulus Media and WOR now owned by Clear Channel are the two conservative talk radio stations.
    Rush and Hannity are moving from WABC to WWOR in January.

  274. Must be the liberals in NYC are too sophisticated for mindless liberal radia,

  275. As we come to the end of 2013 the FNC-bashers have little to show for their steadfast efforts. “While CNN and MSNBC battled for #2, Fox News maintained its dominance, holding the #1 spot in the 25-54 demo and total viewers for the 12th consecutive year. In total viewers, Fox beat CNN and MSNBC combined. And it appears that Fox’s new prime time line-up, which launched at the beginning of October, has only improved things for the network.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-and-msnbc-both-claim-2013-ratings-victories-over-each-other-as-fox-remains-1/?dtoc

    Windmill-bashers extend their sympathy, no matter how hopeless, no matter how far.

  276. To dream… The impossible DREAMMMMMMMMM!

    >cough wheeze spit<

  277. Duck Dynasty gets good ratings, too. People like crap. Especially conservatives.

  278. Talking about a cable news channels bias is not bashing and a channels ratings has nothing do with if any bias some believe the channels has does or does not exist.

    Justin Bieber is at the top of the Billboard Charts for Pop Music and I still don’t consider him to be a good singer.

  279. Not even Bieber’s fans consider him that good a singer. More a good dancer and showman and so dog-gone cute they could just bite his head off.

  280. MSNBC crap is a Bashir mouthful.

  281. We could do without the disgusting and/or violent references around here, Kelly. Your little crusade to make ICN unreadable needs to stop.

  282. We,
    EVERYONE
    Nobody

    Guy always presumes to speak for everyone. Or he has a mouse in his pocket.

  283. I speak for all decent people who manage to comment here without being awful about it. You, sir, are a parasite on this blog.

  284. Making a comment about who someone should have shot is at the very least in bad taste. Not to mention coming out of nowhere.

  285. Yeah, maybe we can go back to discussing what a “thug” Trayvon was, since that ended so well. “Parasite” is an understatement. I guess that’s what Spud wants, to the extent that he even bothers, so there ya go.

  286. Unified attack. I’ll just turn the other cheek.

  287. Yes, if several people all determine that something is over the line and vulgar, you must be a victim. Convenient, dontcha think?

    Try just being a regular guy for a change. The crazy references to the vile thing which killed Bashir’s career, and who “George should have shot”, are completely unnecessary. This is not a war; you are not in battle for the soul of conservatism and Fox News. It’s just a cable news blog. Switch brands..whatever you gotta do. This ain’t working.

  288. For TV executives that sent out end-of-year memos, here is a decryption of what they possibly mean:
    http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2013/12/8537950/decrypting-tvs-year-end-executive-memos?dtoc

  289. Children…children…play nice or I’ll send you to bed without your supper…

  290. Ah, so if one person says it, he’s only speaking for himself. If three people say it, you’re the victim of a “unified attack” Sure, whatever.

  291. The ultimate arbiter intervenes. You might want to check his reaction, prior to the blessed self-imposed exile.
    https://insidecablenews.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/free-for-all-102113/#comment-182467

  292. Interesting that Glen Greenwood has never had much use for his fellow liberals at MSNBC. Acting as agents of power to him is a sellout. I remember him getting into quite the pushing match with LOD four years ago. Here is a not to pleased MSNBC Obama sales person:
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/like-clockwork-joy-reid-is-annoyed-about-glenn-greenwald-sniping-at-msnbc/

  293. The fact I had the sense leave for a couple months when emotions got the best of me speaks well of me, I think. Quite serene these days.

  294. How about a little cable news to settle the scene. ICE, what’s Fox up to tonight?

  295. A young white man from Texas was charged with a hate crime for attacking an elderly black man during a knockout game. Funny how it took a white man attacking a black man for the authorities to finally call this a hate crime.

  296. Hmmm… Pat Buchanan guest with Dana Perino hosting for Greta on ON THE RECORD…might just be going to criticize Obama?

  297. A young white man from Texas was charged with a hate crime for attacking an elderly black man during a knockout game. Funny how it took a white man attacking a black man for the authorities to finally call this a hate crime.

    When you post a video highlighting that you’re targeting someone because of their race, that is clearly a hate crime. The evidence is there. Next?

  298. Videos posted in some of the other cases.

  299. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Children…children…play nice or I’ll send you to bed without your supper…

    NOTE – I was not involved in any of this tomfoolery.

  300. Smart… Very smart?

  301. When you post a video highlighting that you’re targeting someone because of their race, that is clearly a hate crime. The evidence is there. Next?

    Jon Stewart did a clip-segment of cable idiots proclaiming police were on “special alert” because of the awful terrible racist knockout game. Which isn’t a widespread epidemic; has been going on amongst young morons forever; and cops aren’t on extra-super-double alert for assault crimes they already investigate. But Fox News. Thanks boys.

  302. CNN goes to tape and Anthony Bourdain at 9pm and 10pm.

    Rachel is doing a best of show on MSNBC.

    Juan Williams was in for Bill.

    Shannon Bream is in for Megyn,

  303. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Smart… Very smart?

    Nah, I was out for the day. Half Price Books has their annual 20% off sale thru the 30th.

  304. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Jon Stewart

    Jon Stewart is a smirking, braying, lop-eared jackass. And I am unanimous in that.

  305. “When you post a video highlighting that you’re targeting someone because of their race, that is clearly a hate crime. The evidence is there. Next?”

    Joe, isn’t that what’s been happening with the video postings all along? What makes this case of white-on-black different?

  306. Shannon Bream is in for Megyn.

    And another “straight news anchor” bites the dust.

  307. That’s Andy’s comment, Carol. I’m not up on specific video claims of attacks. My point is that the broad claim that there’s an epidemic of black-on-white “knockout game” activity is not true. Fox made it up to generate racial animosity. As usual.

  308. — Bream —
    She announced that on Special Report. Sigh.

  309. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Fox made it up

    The victims may beg to differ.

  310. Joe, isn’t that what’s been happening with the video postings all along? What makes this case of white-on-black different?

    The man explicitly stated he was going to target a black person and that race was the one and only motivation for his action. It’s a textbook hate crime.

  311. The victims may beg to differ.

    The victims of actual assault crimes gain nothing by the story be trumped up as a racial epidemic. It is not.

  312. The Kelly File: The new hit show where all remaining remnants of FNC credibility goes to die.

  313. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Obsession.

  314. So with all this talk about Phil Robertson, knock out games and Obamacare, I’ve got to ask – what’s the unemployment situation looking like these days?

    Jobs, jobs, jobs.

  315. Yeah, I guess people who comment on cable news on a cable news blog are just obsessed. That’s the ticket.

  316. James Rosen RT’d someone suggesting that he should sub for Megyn Kelly. Good Lord, I hope not. I suggested that if he’s going to host, he might do a show with a less obvious conservative bias. I’m sure he’ll get right back to me on that. Or not.

  317. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Yeah, I guess people who comment on cable news on a cable news blog are just obsessed. That’s the ticket.

    Only if they comment on the same thing day in and day out.

  318. The Kelly File is the biggest news in cable news in quite a while, and it continues to make news right now by plug “straight news anchors” into a Factor-style format.

    Two days ago I criticized Hardball, today it’s Kelly File. This is a cable news blog. I talk about cable news on it.

  319. Oddly enough, the only time people get upset is when someone dares to criticize Fox. All other criticisms are ignored, applauded, whatever. If you don’t like Fox being criticized, then maybe this isn’t your place.

  320. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    If you don’t like Fox being criticized, then maybe this isn’t your place.

    If my presence offends you, complain to Spud.

  321. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Two days ago I criticized Hardball, today it’s Kelly File. This is a cable news blog. I talk about cable news on it.

    My snide comment was because Megyn isn’t even on tonight. And, to be honest, I cut Matthews a lot of slack. He hasn’t been the same since his bout with malaria.

  322. The Kelly File was on tonight, with Shannon Bream. I commented on the show, not Megyn herself.

    The Hardball show on Christmas Eve was fine. MSNBC’s decision to place it there was strange. It was a taped year-end clip show about Republicans saying The Crazy. I would not have scheduled it on that day.

  323. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I think that Shannon is much smarter than Megyn. However, I didn’t see tonight’s show. Actually, I hardly ever watch any of the cable primetime opinion shows.

  324. — If my presence offends you, complain to Spud. —

    No, I’m perfectly capable of responding to your pointless, unenlightening statement of “Obsession” without such measures. Try not to feel persecuted.

  325. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    No, I’m perfectly capable of responding to your pointless, unenlightening statement of “Obsession” without such measures. Try not to feel persecuted.

    Calm yourself down, Laura. I don’t feel persecuted. And, if you feel that my comments are “pointless and unenlightening,” I wouldn’t read them if I was you.

  326. — I hardly ever watch any of the cable primetime opinion shows. —

    Ah. So your purpose in life is to come here and dick around with people who do, You might have mentioned that earlier in the year.

  327. This “why do you always talk about Fox” thing is ridiculous. The whole point of a cable news blog is to talk about that stuff. How silly would I sound if someone chose to critique Hardball or Rachel every few days after watching it? “Hey, why you talking ’bout Rachel all the time, man!?” That’s just stupid. Pick a show I watch regularly; comment on it regularly; I’ll debate the comments regularly. That’s what this thing is HERE for.

  328. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Ah. So your purpose in life is to come here and dick around with people who do, You might have mentioned that earlier in the year.

    I watch the daytime block. I can only assume that your purpose is to harass others. You sure seem to enjoy inserting yourself in various disputes. First Larry, and now me. Well, I guess that everyone needs a hobby.

  329. I see Larry and Nixon are in the holiday spirit.

  330. That’s crap. You can’t show up and complain about people commenting, then complain when you’re confronted with it. This keeps going round and round here, and it’s completely unnecessary. You don’t even watch Kelly File, and you lobbed your bizarre little “obsession” comment at me.

    Some people who’ve been here for many years remember a time when you could have actual debates about actual cable news, without this weird, defensive LEAVE FOX ALONE thing at every turn.

    I intend to go right on talking about the subject of this blog.

  331. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    You don’t even watch Kelly File, and you lobbed your bizarre little “obsession” comment at me.

    It was in response to the daily comments. I shouldn’t have said it.

  332. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    I see Larry and Nixon are in the holiday spirit.

    I admit that I shouldn’t have posted the “obsession” comment. And, I understand why Joe was upset. Laura, on the other hand, was being Laura. Why she feels the need to be snippy and insulting in matters that don’t even involve her, I cannot understand.

  333. Yeah, this is the same ‘Nixon’ who basically called me racist when I was defending Michelle Obama. Same mentality, same level of intelligence. You and Larry deserve each other. Oh, and last time I checked, these were not private conversations in which I have no “involvement”. It’s an open forum, so I’ll comment on any damn thing I feel like.

  334. Spud, I don’t think the twins have been listening.

  335. Laura has been here since almost the beginning. A person with that history might have some stake in this place being turned into a trollfest where people can’t comment on a cable news show without being attacked for daring to cross the Fox Mothership. Which happens often these days.

    I’ve defended other people I thought were being unfairly targeted, too, and will continue to do so. There is no Internet Law which says we all stand only as individuals. I accept your apology.

  336. Hi Andy. Happy Holidays!

  337. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Yeah, this is the same ‘Nixon’ who basically called me racist when I was defending Michelle Obama.

    Laura, when in the hell did I do that?

  338. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Spud, I don’t think the twins have been listening.

    They just found a new target.

  339. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    It’s an open forum, so I’ll comment on any damn thing I feel like.

    That applies to both of us.

  340. Keep it up, boys. I’m in the right here, and I intend to stand up for it. There was no reason for this madness to start again today.

  341. It’s an open forum, so I’ll comment on any damn thing I feel like.

    And I’ll ban you for it. Take a chill pill and step outside. You are wired a little too tightly tonight. That goes for the others as well. Knock it off.

  342. Yeah, Spud, I’M the problem. You can let the trolls take over, but I’m not taking that from you. Make. Your. Move.

  343. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Agreed, Spud. I am going to let it drop.

  344. So, what’d everyone do for Christmas?

  345. I worked. It wasn’t too bad. Quiet.

  346. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Celebrated with family and friends.

  347. Went caroling with the coyotes.

  348. What’d you do, Andy?

  349. Nixon - niila niihpikiiookwa meentwasiaani Says:

    Went caroling with the coyotes.

    I understand that they are really good at “Jingle Bells.”

  350. Ate dinner with some friends and played with my new Apple iPad.

  351. I still don’t get tablets. I have a PC, a laptop, and a phone the size of my car. Why would I need an iPad?

  352. I have five laptops, another tablet and two iPhones. I can carry the iPad around and type on it with ease unlike my other tablet.

  353. How can msnbc.com be so nice and have a nice iPad app but NBCNews.com have an outdated website and no iPad app?

  354. Oh, you’re a journalist dude. You use it for work.

  355. Cuz NBCNews.com is the site all the MSNBC people abandoned to establish they’re own site.

  356. I wonder if the lack of any serious digital establishment is playing in to NBC News’ ratings woes. Their website is severely outdated and the frontpage on NBCNews.com is a mess. Their smartphone app is four years old and the only change that’s been made to it is the logo (from MSNBC to NBC News). They don’t have a tablet app at all. This stuff matters. And I can’t imagine this isn’t a factor with the ratings problems they’re having.

  357. Wow, I didn’t know it was that bad. Yeah, you gotta stay up with the digital or the demo will abandon you as a bunch of old farts. This isn’t helping.

  358. It’s as if they’re not even trying. This stuff matters.

  359. “wonder if the lack of any serious digital establishment is playing in to NBC News’ ratings woes.”

    They are still the #1 nightly news program. The Today Show has their own problems, and Gregory ain’t no Tim Russert. So I would say, “no”.

  360. The only time I see the people on the Today Show is during the Macy’s Parade and during the Olympic opening ceremonies. Actually, when Matt Lauer and Meredith Vieira did the opening ceremonies, I had to turn it off after 10 minutes. The ARCA race from Indianapolis Raceway Park was much more entertaining.

  361. CBS MORNING NEWS still in third place, but from a news POV, it’s head and shoulders above the two ratings leaders.

  362. CBS This Morning is so far superior to the other two shows it’s not even funny. And then there’s Al Jazeera News in the morning on cable. International feed at 5am and DC feed w/ Stephanie Sy at 6am. The Today Show, New Day, GMA and Fox & Friends are worthless.

  363. Morning Joe is crap now, too. Same guests, same conversation for years; and the “TV married” vibe with Joe and Mika gets infinitely creepier every day.

  364. Morning What? What’s Morning Joe? Who’s Mika?

  365. I still DVR Daily Rundown every day.

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