Free for All: 07/14/14

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  1. Most of the MSM news coverage is slanted toward the Palestinians as usual. Graphics: Palestinian Dead 175 Israelis 0. As if Mexico was shooting a thousand rockets into Arizona a day the act would get the same treatment? Undercurrent of Islamic sympathy always strong as Christians and Jews are never championed by that same crowd.
    As with most things, FOX NEWS has a fairer and more balanced perspective.

  2. NYT reports “Sergeant Bergdahl has finished undergoing therapy and counseling at an Army hospital in San Antonio, and will assume a job at the Army North headquarters at the same base, Fort Sam Houston, the officials said.”
    Rumor is a warm reception is planned for him in Mexico within a few days.

  3. I checked out Jose Diaz-Balart’s new MSNBC show this morning and found it about what I expected. There was a overemphasis on Hispanic issues, as you might expect, and I just don’t see where he develops an audience for the show.

    His performance seemed rushed, loud and a bit shrill but that may just be the what Hispanic audiences prefer in their hosts; much like loud, shrill blowhards are the norm on conservative talk radio.

    As usual I’ll wait a few weeks, before deciding for sure, how JD-B settles into his new role. My guess is I won’t be a regular viewer.

  4. Fritz is a describing:
    a) a stereotype
    b) Ed Schultz
    c) Ricky Ricardo

  5. NYT
    At Dinner Tables, Restless President Finds Intellectual Escape
    By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS
    “President Obama is having increasingly frequent late-night dinners, here and abroad, with companions from fields like architecture, film, art and literature.”

    And a 13 year old kid will do about anything to avoid doing his chores.

  6. joeremi Says:

    I checked out Jose Diaz-Balart’s new MSNBC show this morning and found it about what I expected. There was a overemphasis on Hispanic issues, as you might expect, and I just don’t see where he develops an audience for the show.

    There is an huge untapped Hispanic market for English-language newstalk media to reach out to, and most of them lean liberal. I don’t expect big numbers any time soon because of the moribund dayside JDB is starting in, but Phil Griffin is making a wise investment in the future.

  7. “There is an huge untapped Hispanic market for English-language newstalk media to reach out to”

    ^^And your basing that assumption on what? You may be right but my feeling is most JD-B fans know him from his Spanish language work on Telemundo and why would they want to listen to him in a second language?

    My guess is his numbers will not be good because he’s grating to watch unless your a fan of his work elsewhere; much like Sharpton or Schultz

  8. Good family valued Catholic Hispanics are so left leaning, uh huh.

  9. joeremi Says:

    …but my feeling is most JD-B fans know him from his Spanish language work on Telemundo and why would they want to listen to him in a second language?

    English is the primary language most Latinos speak in this country, regardless of what they use at home. I think more of them would watch English-language cable news if they felt their issues/interests were being addressed there.

  10. Outsider Says:

    There are four former Fox News correspondents who now work for Al Jazeera.
    I just saw Scott Heidler in Ukraine and last weekend Anita McNaught doing a report on South Sudan. I remember Carol McKinley did something on Colorado’s pot laws months ago. TV Newser mentioned Dana Lewis is working for AJAM but never saw him on AJE.

  11. ^more employees than viewers.

  12. “English is the primary language most Latinos speak in this country”

    ^^Based on what evidence?

    “regardless of what they use at home.”

    ^^Home is what were talking about here. That’s where most people watch TV. I’m just not buying Hispanics watching MSNBC, or any English cable news net, over a Spanish language TV news network at home when their first language is Spanish.

    “I think more of them would watch English-language cable news if they felt their issues/interests were being addressed there.”

    ^^MSNBC covers those issues/interests all the time. You don’t need an Asian to deliver Asian news stories. I don’t see having a Hispanic deliver Hispanic stories as a game changer.

  13. All depends on if he puts on a good, different show. Then some Hispanics may watch in numbers higher than an Anglo anchor. If not, well, MSNBC’s Alan Keyes was no magnet for blacks.

  14. Compared to his glory days, Alan Keyes is making cents. On the plus side, Keyes is pretty solid on the fact that Jesus wants to help impeach Obama.

  15. joeremi Says:

    I’m not going to get into a statistical argument over whether most Latinos speak English in an English-speaking country. Because that would be insane.

  16. Maybe the key is what do they prefer to speak, and listen to at home. For example, my extended family has a Latino nanny and she and the kids (they learned from her since infancy) never speak English unless us older folks are in the conversation.

  17. joeremi Says:

    I think the logical conclusion Phil Griffin reached is that younger Latinos operate in an English-speaking mainstream world, and will be receptive to a Latino-anchored newstalk hour on something other than Telemundo. This is not a complicated metric, the only question is whether anyone will watch in significant numbers.

  18. “I’m not going to get into a statistical argument over whether most Latinos speak English in an English-speaking country.”

    ^^Joe: My only point was that you stated “English is the primary language most Latinos speak in this country” as a fact and not an opinion. I have no stats either; although they are probably polls on the topic out there somewhere; but I do have a very different opinion on the subject.

    “I think the logical conclusion Phil Griffin reached is that younger Latinos operate in an English-speaking mainstream world, and will be receptive to a Latino-anchored newstalk hour on something other than Telemundo.”

    ^^That’s quite possible.

    “the only question is whether anyone will watch in significant numbers.”

    ^^On this we agree.

  19. savefarris Says:

    The DOJ is already investigating the Nebraska Parade Float that was less than worshipful to our Lord and Savior Barack Obama.

    Yet, they STILL haven’t found the time yet to interview the main alleged victim in the IRS brouhaha: TrueTheVote.

    Because … Priorities.

  20. joeremi Says:

    Frankly, this Jose Diaz-Balart show is probably more of an effort to reduce losses than actually gain any significant market share. The future for cable news is smaller numbers in niche markets, and one way to keep those numbers at something resembling sustainable is to grab some Telemundo viewers.

  21. icemannyr Says:

    You can add former FNC reporter Courtney Kealy who is a senior producer/reporter for Al Jazeera America.

  22. joeremi Says:

    One thing Diaz-Balart is doing – which is spreading across MSNBC – is highlighting the actual refugee problem we’re facing at our southern border. “The illegals”, as rightwing media so obliviously refers to these people, are not just folks seeking economic opportunity anymore; we have a crisis of children trying to escape rape, torture and murder. This will not be solved by building “the damn fence”.

  23. savefarris Says:

    we have a crisis of children trying to escape rape, torture and murder.

    Yeah, they’re called “Chicagoans”.

    Today, it’s the children. But next week, those kids are all going to need moms. And next month, they’ll all need dads. Next year, it’ll be grandma, grandpa, and their neighbors. Soon enough, it’s the entire region.

    We tried it Obama’s way in 1986 and the result is what we have today. If your boat is taking on water, your first act isn’t to re-design the boat.

    Plug.The.D*mn.Hole.

  24. LynnLGM Says:

    I would really love to know what sort of Faustian bargain has caused this man to be a go-to guest on Fox. What, they couldn’t get the guy who wears a sandwich-board and yells?
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-trump-now-a-fox-news-bowe-bergdahl-expert/

  25. Trump

    FNC has decided that anyone who’s ever pretended to possibly run for the GOP nomination qualifies as an Expert On All Things. Which is how we get a game show host calling an American POW a traitor just because he thinks so. That’s pretty bad.

  26. I guess as long as he’s pretending that he might run in ’16, that makes him a Person We Should Listen To. Hell, even Dick Morris is making a comeback, so ‘shame’ is officially dead.

  27. He’s still toast, but I like this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFjmRlDesls

  28. savefarris Says:

    To be fair, Trump has a better chance of being elected President than does Wendy Davis does being elected governor.

  29. To be fair, your bizarre correlations of “this one thing” to “this other thing” are pointless. I have no idea who you think you’re reaching with this stuff.

  30. “so ‘shame’ is officially dead.”
    If not, none of us here would still be posting.

  31. “To be fair, Trump has a better chance of being elected President than does Wendy Davis does being elected governor.”

    ^^Actually your totally wrong farris. Although Wendy Davis is a long shot to be elected Governor of Texas; she is in the race as the candidate of the second largest party in the state. You can surmise that if something happened to her opponent (i.e. he’s found out to be a pedophile or he’s convicted of a serious crime); a case can be made where she wins.

    Trump, on the other hand, has never run seriously for POTUS and has no chance of winning a Republican primary let alone the election – be it POTUS, Governor or dog catcher.

  32. Trump is a cartoon-figure, with no intention of running anything besides his mouth. He exists to promote Donald Trump, and nothing else. Is he still looking for that Birth Certificate?

  33. joeremi Says:

    Trump has investigators in Hawaii, and they can’t BELIEVE what they’re seeing.

  34. Not personally, but his P.I.s are still hard at work in Hawaii.

  35. joeremi Says:

    I’d loved to have seen the look on Trump’s face the moment he learned Obama actually coughed up the Birth Certificate. There is no way he had prepared for his bluff being called.

  36. imnotblue Says:

    Joe… A serious question…

    We have had a bunch of international conflicts in the past few years, and the solidifying left-wing opinion seems to be “keep the US out of it.”

    So now we have another such crisis… So why should we get involved? What’s the difference?

    Why the change of heart?

  37. joeremi Says:

    A serious answer: A. Entering a war, and accepting refugees from one, are two different subjects. B. I’m not a pacifist who speaks for a “solidifying left-wing opinion”.

  38. savefarris Says:

    You can surmise that if something happened to her opponent …; a case can be made where she wins.

    Were that to happen, I have no doubt Texas Republicans would pull a Torricelli maneuver and dare the Democrats to complain. In fact, that’s exactly what they’d call it.

  39. savefarris Says:

    I realize that people on this board, and indeed throughout America, have their differences and disagree on a lot of issues.

    But I think if there’s one thing we can all agree on, it’s that tonight’s MLB All-Star hats look like a**.

  40. savefarris Says:

    Even with Stewart throwing BP softballs, Hillary still accidently admits that Bill’s foreign policy was a complete and utter failure.

  41. icemannyr Says:

    After reports like this on “The Real Story” youtube.com/watch?v=wpMDmsqATio and “Your World” about a charity getting 50 million to turn a Texas hotel into housing for illegal immigrants,

    FNC just reported the charity has stopped the plan due to negative media reports.

    That intro from Gretchen and the report from William have a biased tone to me.

    What media besides FNC and the local news stations in the area of the hotel have been reporting on this?

  42. Outsider Says:

    The real question is what media actually sent reporters into Guatemala and other Central American countries to assess what’s actually happening in those countries? The only thing I have on these countries was a documentary/reality episode on the BBC and on-the-ground reports of Honduras being the murder capital of the world from the BBC and AJE – from 1 to 2 years ago. Oh right, real journalism actually involves more work than a bunch of Democratic and Republican election strategists talking over each other in NYC or DC.

  43. Nobody will believe the truth, only their truth. When you have a President that does nothing but lie, 3/4 of the news media that covers for him, the rest of the media can’t break through. Only an abandonment of Obama will open the floodgates of real reporting.

  44. Sad to report that comic-book character Archie has been murdered. Stabbed to death while standing up for a g@y is as noble a death society offers, but perhaps avoidable. For years Veronica had pleaded with the freckled red-head to obtain his concealed carry permit, but no, gun-safety dimwit Jughead had convinced him otherwise. As Little Orphan Annie has said, “It’s a hard knock life. carry a Glock”.

  45. UPDATE: first reports being notoriously inaccurate, Archie was shot, not stabbed authorities now say. The usual Tea Party suspects are being rounded up.

  46. LynnLGM Says:

    There is growing pressure on Fox News Channel …

    “Growing pressure” my left one. The only “growing pressure” is in the head of the writer, or whoever thinks there is even the slightest possibility of Beckel being fired.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinese-media-blast-fox-news-718957?dtoc

  47. icemannyr Says:

    “The real question is what media actually sent reporters into Guatemala and other Central American countries to assess what’s actually happening in those countries?”

    NBC News had Stephanie Gosk & CNN had Gary Tuchman reporting from Central America.

  48. Outsider Says:

    Thanks. I would be surprised if CNN didn’t send someone to Central America.

  49. No, nobody cares what people in China think of some old guy on Fox News. Beckel isn’t going anywhere.

  50. savefarris Says:

    I’m no Wall Street hot shot, but I’d recommend selling all your Malaysian Airline stock. Now.

  51. joeremi Says:

    Stock market jokes are always awesome right after 295 people have died. Nice work.

  52. A bit of a cheap shot there.

    Moving on, I think the biggest ramification would be for Russia if their people/partners were responsible for a shoot-down.

  53. savefarris Says:

    This just in: joe has declared humor off-limits for the next 24 hours. Any sort of whimsy, light-heartedness, or irrevrence will be SEVERELY punished.

    joe will let us know when we are allowed to stop grieving complete and total strangers.

    This concludes the activation of the Emergency Tragedy System.

  54. savefarris Says:

    Actually, the cheaper shot would have been…

    Man, good thing Obama slapped on those extra sanctions yesterday!

  55. LynnLGM Says:

    Saw this on Twitter, the last such similar incident.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zl4s98C3w8#t=23

  56. LynnLGM Says:

    ^ Might have to restart that clip, since it picks up in the middle.

  57. “@piersmorgan: President Obama massively dropped the ball just now. 23 Americans killed and he says ‘it looks like a terrible tragedy’ then back to jokes?”

  58. The President’s performance was appalling. He seems to get this tunnel vision where he thinks the most important thing is to deal with the people who came to whatever event was scheduled, and treats the TV cameras as an afterthought. This isn’t the first time he’s done it, and apparently there’s no one there to tap him on the shoulder.

  59. Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman
    Obama has made “no such calls to foreign leaders” today in the wake of this attack. – Jon Karl

    Noah Rothman ‏@NoahCRothman
    Obama “almost seems to be moving a little bit in the direction of under-reacting.” – @jonkarl

  60. I would expect this to be posted (officially) at any moment.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEDH2Z2_6Zw&feature=youtu.be

  61. paminwi Says:

    Ben Wedeman on CNN says ordinary Gaza citizens have no where to go when Israel drops bombs. Maybe he should do a follow-up and ask why Hamas only has bomb shelters for their leaders and not ordinary citizens. Hamas COULD use some of their $ to build those bomb shelters instead of buying more missiles. But of course, that does not fit the story that Hamas wants told. They just want to talk about the mean, nasty Israelis. And our media falls right into the trap.

    Did anyone hear that Hamss had missiles stored in a UN run school in the Gaza strip? That story too does not fit the narrative that needs to be told. Our media is awful and they wonder why we have a hard time believing them.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/

    Ben also mentioned about how a Palestinian young man was burned to death and that was a big reason all of this bombing started. Has he forgotten that 3 young Israelis were murdered?
    Hamas has not done anything to find the people who did that. Israel has arrested 6 people for the death of the Palestinian youth. It won’t bring him back but a trial can be held. No trial for the terrorists who murdered 3 young Jews because those people do not care about those murders. You know, the old “death to Israel” thing that is the basis for so much.

  62. “This isn’t the first time he’s done it, and apparently there’s no one there to tap him on the shoulder.” I tend to cut him slack as his mind is going in several different directions and there should be a minder to caution a gear shift by at least giving a head shake.

  63. savefarris Says:

    Hamas COULD use some of their $ to build those bomb shelters instead of buying more missiles

    If they bought anything BUT missiles, they wouldn’t need the shelters either.

  64. Jews can build something great out of virtually nothing. That causes grief and resentment from those that can take nothing and make it worse. My dad was an anti-Semite. I never understood it as a kid, and I don’t understand it now. I have always been an admirer. maybe as an engineer that’s part of me.

  65. I’ve been away much of the day and so missed a lot of the airliner being shot down in Ukraine coverage. Seems to be mostly wall to wall on all the cable nets at the moment. FNC is currently going with Billo and I was wondering why Shep and his crack crew of ‘Breaking News’ reporters weren’t on the case? Has Shep and his Space Station crew done any coverage other than their scheduled PM slot? If not does anyone know why? I thought his team was put together especially to cover just such stories as the one in Ukraine.

  66. paminwi Says:

    So…..you “were away for much of the day”. And yet you snarkily say ” why Shep and his crack crew of breaking news reporters weren’t on the case?” And “has Shep and his space station crew done any coverage other than their scheduled PM slot?”

    Shep was on the air all day long. He only went off when Special Report came on. I thought I heard him say something to the effect of he was taking time off after being on the air for 6 hours.

    So…take your disgusting snark and make some enlightening remark about how Crystal Ball really isn’t an idiot.

  67. joeremi Says:

    Shep took over sometime during that ridiculous Outnumbered show. Which mercifully relieved us of Kimberly Guilfoyle’s expertise on Russia and Ukraine.

  68. Lack of knowledge has never kept a Fox-hater from his mission, Pam. Note: dumb snark is a poor weapon.

  69. Krystal Ball mercifully relieved us of Kimberly Guilfoyle’s expertise on Russia and Ukraine.

  70. As I said I was away most of the day. I’m happy Shep and his crack crew were on the case. I assume they did a good job. Thanks for answering my questions Pam. I appreciate your kind thoughts.

  71. Outsider Says:

    I’ve noticed in every single interview of Hamas spokespeople, they consistently dodge completely fair questions on why they praised the murder of the three Israeli teens or the accusation they’re using human shields. Then they go on how the media cares more about Israel than the Palestinians. Umm, there are journalists who put their own lives at risk in Gaza to show the devastating effects of the Israeli airstrikes. The lone Israeli fatality has largely been forgotten because of all the civilian deaths in Gaza including many children from questionable, ineffective, and possibly even unnecessary Israeli airstrikes. Too bad reality has this habit of not following along with their delusional narratives. When Israeli officials are given tough questions such as why they carry out air strikes when they clearly know civilians including children will be killed or why they think human shields become ‘legitimate’ targets, they don’t dodge, they give an answer.

  72. Outsider Says:

    Jake Tapper is a mean racist.

    What crybabies. It’s like they haven’t even watched or bothered going online but hey, some liar they trust said the BBC was biased so it must be true. The only way the BBC will ever be considered fair in the their eyes is for the BBC to openly call for the eradication of Israel. Some of the comments on various sites even complained because Israeli officials and pro-Israeli guests were on-air despite the fact Hamas officials and pro-Hamas guests were also on-air. Also recently, the BBC got flak for covering Malaysian Airlines more than the conflict.
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/16/bbc-defends-coverage-israeli-airstrikes-gaza-palestinian

    And let’s not forget the violence on Parisian streets today. Protests on the Mideast were banned because the cops got sick of the assaults. Great job of proving they’re peaceful protesters who just want their POV out there.

  73. If the story is abbreviated, you can Google the title. First couple paragraphs make the point, though.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/us/politics/obama-sticks-to-schedule-despite-world-crises.html

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