Free for All: 07/21/14

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111 Responses to “Free for All: 07/21/14”

  1. I think Ukranian separatists, ISIS, Hamas, and the guys holding the #freeourgirls girls should get their own country ruled by Putin. Capital would be Atlantis.

  2. I place the MSNBC programs/hosts into four categories:
    can’t miss – RM, CT and SK
    OK but don’t love – CH, Hardball, MJ, LOD and AM (Andrea and Ari)
    can’t stand – Sharpton, Schultz and MHP
    the rest – everything else on the network.

    Jose Diaz-Balart is in ‘the rest’ category, for the moment, but I can see him falling into can’t stand sometime in the future.

  3. Larry’s MSNBC groupings:
    Enjoy watching: Chuck Todd, Alex Witt
    Tolerable: Joe&Mika, LOD, Andrea Mitchell, Jansing
    Would watch if paid $100/hr.: pretty much the rest

  4. Larry’s FNC groupings:
    Enjoy watching: SPECIAL REPORT, SHEP, GRETCHEN, O’reilly, WSJ Editorial Report.
    Would watch if paid $100/hr.: Huck, Fox&Friends, Hannitty
    Tolerable: pretty much the rest.

  5. The MSNBC shows I can stand to watch would be First Look, Way to Early (If I am up ever at that time) , Weekends with Alex Witt
    These are ok and watchable to a point : Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell , Morning Joe ,
    Only tolerable prime time show : Rachel Maddow
    Everything else: Noooo

  6. Maddow is occasionally tolerable. She did an interesting bit about how Claire McCaskill maneuvered things so that Todd Akin was more likely to win his Primary, thus giving her .. Todd Akin to run against. Perhaps no one could have predicted his particular brand of self-immolation, but she certainly got what she wanted out of that deal. As always, assuming that the story is true.

  7. icemannyr Says:

    Having a news anchor in the opinion chair gets you this, http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-host-obama-golfs-as-bodies-rain-from-the-sky/
    While you may agree with her opinion. As a news anchor and reporter for FNC she should not be on an opinion talk show giving her personal opinions.

  8. Ainsley especially shouldn’t be using egregious terms like “bodies raining from the sky” if she plans on being a news anchor again next week. You can’t go on TV and essentially accuse the president – in graphic terms – of not caring about dead people, then go back to reporting about him like it never happened. Which she will do.

  9. MSNBC:

    Can’t miss: Hardball, LOD, Maddow
    Like: Way Too Early, Morning Joe, Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell, Reid Report, Chris Hayes
    Tolerate: NOW with Alex, Politics Nation, The Ed Show
    Abysmal: Ronan Farrow Daily, The Cycle

    FNC:
    Like: If I feel like watching news/opinion generated by over-madeup calendar girls.
    Abysmal: Most of it.

  10. my FNC: like to see: Shep, Greta, Megyn Happening Now ,America’s newsroom
    watchable : Real story, Fox and Friends Weekend , Cavuto
    not my flavor : Hannity, Huckabee, Fox and Friends weekday, Outnumbered ,

  11. Oh, I forgot weekends: Steve Kornacki and Alex Witt are good on MSNBC. I like Arthel Neville and Julie Banderas on FNC, which is when that network actually does news.

  12. Then there’s Jeanine Pirro…

  13. savefarris Says:

    You can’t go on TV and essentially accuse the president – in graphic terms – of not caring about dead people, then go back to reporting about him like it never happened.

    Can you go on radio and do the same?

  14. LynnLGM Says:

    news anchor/opinion
    I agree with Ainsley’s general point, but no, she shouldn’t be saying it. Unfortunately, ‘Outnumbered’ seems designed to have its participants cross that line, assuming that Fox even has one.

  15. Yeah “Outnumbered” is trying to be an opinion show with news anchors with opinion people too … it’s a bad mixture makes things like the Ainsley thing happen.

  16. If there were such a thing as a FOX-HATER, it might say things like:

    “FNC:
    Like: If I feel like watching news/opinion generated by over-madeup calendar girls.
    Abysmal: Most of it.”

    But of course, they only exist in right-wing myth.

  17. joeremi Says:

    Here’s what happens when you start with the story you want to tell, then find out on-air that the facts don’t fit the story. I almost feel bad for Heather, who obviously figured out the problem in mid-sentence, and basically gave up.

    http://thedailybanter.com/2014/07/fox-news-anchors-still-cant-read-charts/

  18. LynnLGM Says:

    That was embarrassing. The chart clearly did not support the way they were spinning it, and she was smart enough to notice. She soldiered on with her lines, but it was clear.

  19. joeremi Says:

    I look forward to Bernard Goldberg calling Heather Nauert a moron tonight…

  20. Speaking of morons, I’m getting sick and tired of seemingly every TV ad depicting a family showing MOM as wise and all-knowing and DAD as a bumbling, childish simpleton. And race plays no part in it: black or white, the father figure is but a failing dullard.

  21. joeremi Says:

    Don Lemon is instructing Alisyn Camerota on how he operates “if we’re gonna work together”. I’m surprised he didn’t end it with “woman”..

  22. It seemed like a somewhat tense exchange, and it feels as though I missed something. She responded with a curt “Good to know” that definitely set off an alarm.

  23. Outsider Says:

    CNNi seems more Australian than American.

  24. motownman Says:

    So why is Ainsley being criticized while the “straight reporters,” Sandra and Harris, get a free pass for voicing their opinions? Actually, the best part on the show came in the online segment when Ainsley and Jedidiah answered a woman who complained about the length of the skirts.

  25. why a Rupert Murdoch purchase of HBO might be a good opportunity to rid the place of vermin:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/07/22/Sarah-Palin-Drives-Stake-Through-Heart-of-True-Blood-Producers

  26. “Don Lemon is instructing Alisyn Camerota on how he operates “if we’re gonna work together”. I’m surprised he didn’t end it with “woman”..”
    “It seemed like a somewhat tense exchange, and it feels as though I missed something. She responded with a curt “Good to know” that definitely set off an alarm.”

    ^^If she finds Lemon insufferable wait until she has to work with Cuomo.

  27. TPM has a story about Italo-Palestinian reporter Rula Jebreal scolding MSNBC for being too pro Israel. Apparently she even singled out Andrea Mitchell for special criticism. Now she says her future planned appearances on the network have been cancelled.

    IMO whether her view of MSNBC’s pro Israeli POV is correct or not (my view is all US networks are somewhat pro Israeli for various reasons) is not what put her in the dog house at the network. It was calling out Andrea Mitchell by name. That behavior wouldn’t be tolerated by any cable news network; and attacking Mitchell (an icon at MSNBC/NBC) was particularly stupid and bound to produce blowback.

  28. savefarris Says:

    Kinda wish I could watch MSNBC today as they go apoplectic over the Halbig ruling.

  29. “Kinda wish I could watch MSNBC today as they go apoplectic over the Halbig ruling.”

    ^^As far as I can tell (given the short notice) it’s not that big a deal.

    I imagine the Obama administration will seek a vote of the full court where Democratic appointees outnumber Republican appointees, and thus, will likely overturn this political decision with a more favorable (to them) political decision.

    I don’t know, as yet, if the COA will issue a stay; if the Obama administration does appeal this decision. I do expect this will eventually end up at the SCOTUS where who knows what will happen.

    Worst case for Democrats is this becomes a major fundraising meme and could even be a great GOTV tool for Democrats in the fall.

  30. joeremi Says:

    So why is Ainsley being criticized while the “straight reporters,” Sandra and Harris, get a free pass for voicing their opinions?

    Because keeping up with all of the journalistic transgressions FNC practice is exhausting, and becomes impossible. They jam news, opinion, and a whole lot of “this is how we want you to think about things” into one ‘thing’ they call FOX News; wrap it in a brutally dishonest” “fair and balanced” bow; and laugh in the faces of anyone who dares point out the long con they’re pulling. The bosses like it, the viewers like it, and none of them care what “haters” think. It’s perfect.

    TPM has a story about Italo-Palestinian reporter Rula Jebreal scolding MSNBC for being too pro Israel. Apparently she even singled out Andrea Mitchell for special criticism. Now she says her future planned appearances on the network have been cancelled.

    Jebreal has a long history of histrionically speaking as if she’s the only person who’s ever been right about anything, and it finally caught up to her. As many others have learned: “You have a right to your opinion, but we don’t have to hire you for it.”

  31. joeremi Says:

    Phooey. ‘Whose”. I need more coffee.

  32. LynnLGM Says:

    You were right the first time. Heh.

  33. savefarris Says:

    Worst case for Democrats is this becomes a major fundraising meme and could even be a great GOTV tool for Democrats in the fall.

    Democrats 2014: Because America needs more sh**-ily written laws

    I’m not sure how effective your plan will be though, because the most hotly-contested states are all held by Democrats in “Red” territory. And the LAST thing those imcumbents want to do is re-legislate Obamacare.

  34. savefarris Says:

    I expect to see news of this decision spliced in with Pelosi’s “we have to pass it to find out what’s in it” in about 8 million PAC ads.

  35. joeremi Says:

    You were right the first time. Heh.

    Phooey!

  36. “And the LAST thing those imcumbents want to do is re-legislate Obamacare.”

    ^^Maybe. But cheering that up to 5 million people may be losing their health care insurance over a technicality is not a vote getter in my book.

    Republicans will be walking a tightrope trying to make this decision; where millions of people will suffer a devastating blow to them and their families; sound like a positive one. Meanwhile Democrats will just have to sound outraged. It may not be the game changer Republicans were hoping for.

  37. savefarris Says:

    Republicans will be walking a tightrope trying to make this decision; where millions of people will suffer a devastating blow to them and their families; sound like a positive one.

    You’re right that Republicans just might be dumb enough to take this gift and squander it. But the answer is real simple:

    “We knew this would happen. Which is why none of us voted for it. And why we’ve worked like hell to fix it [insert breathless Chris Matthews count here] only to be denied and derided by Harry Reid and President Obama.

    Democrats wanted this. They voted for it. They got it. They own it. All of it. Period.

    If you don’t like it … well … then you know who to vote for in November.”

  38. “And why we’ve worked like hell to fix it”

    ^^I must have missed the house vote that would have fixed the wording in the act to allow the Feds’ as well as states, to pay subsidies. All I remember were votes to repeal the ACA.

  39. I’m not hearing much lately from all those FNC hosts/pundits who, during the Syrian crisis, were deriding Obama’s so-called poor leadership and touting what a great strong leadership Putin was providing and how we needed someone like Putin to lead us here in the USA. Same goes for Republican/Tea Party politicians.

  40. savefarris Says:

    All those “72 votes” (or whatever the current number is) weren’t all strict “repeal the whole thing” votes. Most of them were about single aspects of the bill. However, Democrats in their political haste, thought they’d make hay by classifying all of them as “repeal” votes in order to bolster their “do-nothing” talking point.

    So now, we’ve got Republicans on record trying to fix holes in the bill and you’ve got Democrats saying “Nope, all or nothing and nothing’s not an option.”

    If Republicans are smart (not necessarily a given!), you’ll be hearing that ad nauseum this fall.

    —————————————————————

    Ironically enough, if Obama had just followed the law and implemented the employer mandate, today’s ruling would have affected A LOT more people. Instead of cutting off the sweet government sugar for 5 million or so, it would have cut it off for 85-100 million. You think that would have caused an uproar that would have led to an immediate legislative change?

  41. savefarris Says:

    I’m not hearing much lately from all those FNC hosts/pundits who, during the Syrian crisis, were deriding Obama’s so-called poor leadership

    Haven’t checked in the past 5 minutes, but did Bashir Assad just leave?

    No? He’s still there? Huh. “Hell of a job, Magic-Hat Boy”.

  42. And, oh Fritz, ISIS is at its heart a Syria creation. Obama lack of any coherent policy for Syria makes ISIS his legacy. I’ve heard plenty about that in the news analysis lately.

  43. President Obama’s old Harvard Law professor, Laurence Tribe, said that he “wouldn’t bet the family farm” on Obamacare’s surviving the legal challenges to an IRS rule about who is eligible for subsidies that are currently working their way through the federal courts.

  44. joeremi Says:

    The banned person is un-banned.

    All In w/Chris Hayes ‏@allinwithchris · 7m
    TONIGHT: Who? @michaelbirnbaum, @don_borelli, @JamesFallows, @rulajebreal, @RepBetoORourke #inners

  45. I had cataract surgery today. Nice people in an organized efficient facility. In retrospect, I hope I’m long dead before the government ever gets total control of health care.

  46. Page 6 in the NYP is quoting “sources” as saying David Gregory will be replaced as MTP host after the midterms. The person most talked about as replacement is Chuck Todd. He’d be my first choice too, but giving him the job poses the questions of what to do about his MSNBC show and WH roles. Maybe they’re grooming Chris Jansing to take over his WH duties?

    According to P6, others being considered for the job, are Savannah Guthrie (unlikely as she’s pregnant) and Joe Scarborough/Mika Brzezinski (a joke I presume).

    One wild card I’d like to see considered is Ari Melber. I’ve been impressed at his growth as a host over the last year. I know his appointment would create problems internally but he’s my choice if Chuck Todd doesn’t get/want the job.

  47. joeremi Says:

    Chuck Todd would be a serviceable host, but he won’t budge the interest/ratings meter one iota, and Meet The Press is in desperate need of budging. I think they would be wise to make a diversity pick in the last two years of the Obama Administration, plus looking forward to the possibility of a female to succeed him. If NBC wants to click that box with someone who will get some attention to that moribund show, they should choose Tamron Hall.

  48. motownman Says:

    If they wanted a woman with brains they’d Pick Chris Jansing, not Tamron Hall.

  49. joeremi Says:

    Tamron has improved by massive leaps and bounds in the last 5 years, and would have to make another big leap for MTP, but I think she has it in her. Calling her someone with “no brains” is just silly.

  50. she’s a b-lister with looks. She’ll get Meet The Press after I get Face The Nation.

  51. You knew Michael Moore was a a hypocrite after the big tub of guts started lecturing on health care.
    http://mrc.org/biasalerts/nbc-discovers-hypocrisy-michael-moores-wealth-used-him-bash-wall-street-past

  52. “If they wanted a woman with brains they’d Pick Chris Jansing, not Tamron Hall.”

    ^^ I agree. TH is a competent Dayside host but I can’t her being taken seriously as a MTP anchor. Jansing, on the other hand is certainly qualified and is now having her political CV upgraded with her current station at the WH.

  53. ^^can’t her >>> can’t see her Sorry.

  54. Proof-reading means never having to say you’re sorry.

  55. paminwi Says:

    Chris Jansing would be a good choice. She leans liberal but not so overtly so. I think she fouls also press guests to answer questions and not just let them use talking points.

    I do not watch MTP anymore. Who subs when Gregory is on vacation?

  56. paminwi Says:

    Not fouls. Should be would.

  57. savefarris Says:

    A healthy % (if not the majority) of viewers left MTP because they hate the bias that eminated out of 30Rock after Russert died and Gregory was either unwilling or unable to temper it (or was, in fact complicit in it). NBC’s problem is that Todd, Guthrie, Jansing, Maddow, Melber, Mitchell, Klein or any other in-house replacement you could name would have the same stink. And thus would lead to the same results.

    If they want to bring back the audience, they HAVE to go outside the network. And it has to be someone that Republicans won’t automatically revulse over (Wolf, Pelley, Robin Roberts, Couric, et.al.)

    My first choice would be to make a sweetheart deal to Jake Tapper. If he turns you down, pick your favorite between Ed Henry, Jonathan Karl, and Major Garrett.

  58. Jake Tapper has the DNA for a Sunday show. Why ABC never gave to to him is one big mystery..

  59. joeremi Says:

    Yes, Farris, we know that anyone who isn’t avowedly conservative and “right” qualifies asa a Commie to you, but the average MTP viewer is a wee bit more sophisticated than that.

    Maybe you should “watch less FOX News”.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-himes-watch-less-fox-news?utm_content=bufferd60e2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  60. FOX News watches are the best informed people on the planet.

  61. watchers, sorry Fritz.

  62. joeremi Says:

    Actually, people who get all their news from FNC are less informed than people who consume no news at all.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

  63. ABC did make a mistake not giving Tapper the This week slot, but I guess they like George more … ,NBC should pick him up for MTP, he’s gotta be tried of being part of Zucker’s odd idea of the week channel

  64. savefarris Says:

    Yes, Farris, we know that anyone who isn’t avowedly conservative and “right” qualifies asa a Commie to you

    Nice straw man.

    Of course, if what you’re saying was true, then I would have nominated Rich Lowry, Byron York, Laura Ingram, et. al instead of those I named.

    the average MTP viewer is a wee bit more sophisticated than that.

    The average MTP viewer in 2008 no longer watches MTP.

  65. joeremi Says:

    Much as the recently-mentioned study does, this one smells a bit.

    I suspect you didn’t actually read the article I linked. It wasn’t very kind to MSNBC, either.

  66. “then I would have nominated Rich Lowry, Byron York, Laura Ingram, et. al instead of those I named.”

    ^^Why not Chris Wallace? MTP would be a big step up for him from the ratings disaster that is Fox News Sunday.

  67. These polls have popped out for years and 4 out of 5 dentist agree that those who chews gum are less knowledgable than whatever the 5th dentist who chews tobacco hates.
    http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/05/24/fox-news-viewers-the-least-informed/

  68. savefarris Says:

    Why not Chris Wallace?

    He’d do a great job, obviously. But your average Network honcho is gonna say “He’s already got a Sunday show and he isn’t blowing out the ratings. Why pick a guy we already “know” isn’t going to bring us back to glory?”

    As such, he wouldn’t be a realistic candidate.

  69. I believe FOX NEWS SUNDAY plays to less available eyes.

  70. “Why pick a guy we already “know” isn’t going to bring us back to glory?”

    ^^Yeah and Laura Ingram would certainly “bring us back the glory” and remind us how great Tim Russert was.🙂

  71. I’m still a ChuckTodd fan for the job. I think he deserves a shot.

  72. joeremi Says:

    Chuck Todd brings nothing Gregory isn’t already doing. He’d be fine at it, but he wouldn’t bring one single rating point. If you’re not going to shake up the show, why bother switching hosts?

  73. The question is, did Megyn Kelly not bother to look into whether the FAA had banned flights over Ukraine so she could make some bizarre comparative claim that Obama was punishing Israel..or did she lie about whether the FAA had banned flights over Ukraine so she could make some bizarre comparative claim that Obama was punishing Israel?

    http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/07/23/fox-host-megyn-kelly-flubs-ukraine-flight-limit/200196

  74. savefarris Says:

    MSNBC is going to be ALL OVER THIS! ROUND THE CLOCK COVERAGE STARTING NOW!!

    http://twitchy.com/2014/07/23/obama-motorcade-stops-woman-in-labor-from-crossing-street-to-hospital-pics-video/

    Because if Bridge-gate demanded it, then this does as well.

  75. Joeremi flacking Media Matters, the same Joeremi who insisted “partisan websites bore me to tears”.
    LOL

  76. joeremi Says:

    Apparently this FAA thing spread throughout rightwing media yesterday, much to Jake Tapper’s chagrin. Not only was the Ukraine allegation bollocks, but the references to the other countries Megyn named were, too. And all of it built on the bizarre accusation that protecting Ben Gurion Airport was somehow a bad thing against Israel. Amazing.

    ——————————————————————————————

    Amanda Carpenter ‏@amandacarpenter · 17h
    @JakeTapper What was the FAA’s analysis that led to prohibiting flights to Israel, while still permitting flights to Ukraine?

    Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper · 17h
    @amandacarpenter I suspect something to do with a rocket landing within a mile of the airport, but please share your alternative theory

    Tammy Bruce ‏@HeyTammyBruce · 17h
    So, @jaketapper, if that’s the standard, why no FAA flight ban to Kabul? @amandacarpenter

    Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper · 17h
    @HeyTammyBruce @amandacarpenter what American carriers fly to Kabul?

    Tammy Bruce ‏@HeyTammyBruce · 17h
    Not relevant, not all carriers fly to Tel Aviv either, & FAA orders are often followed by non-US carriers @jaketapper @amandacarpenter

    Jake Tapper ‏@jaketapper · 17h
    @HeyTammyBruce it couldn’t be more relevant. FAA orders directives for US carriers and US airports. So Kabul, Baghdad, Tehran -no directives

    Tammy Bruce ‏@HeyTammyBruce · 16h
    So @jaketapper, based on your standard, let’s keep it to Karachi– terrorist interest, target 6mos ago. Why no NOTAM?

    Jake TapperVerified account
    ‏@jaketapper @HeyTammyBruce for the fifth time: US carriers don’t fly there. Am done. Have a good night.

  77. joeremi Says:

    Joeremi flacking Media Matters, the same Joeremi who insisted “partisan websites bore me to tears”.
    LOL

    Yes, I predicted the only defense would be “hey, what about that site who reported it”. Clockwork.

  78. You said it, you own it.

  79. From the always great Dr. $ on CNN new hire Alisyn:

    “I saw some of her work on New Day and she seems to fit in quite smoothly. Wolf gave her a warm welcome.

    Seems to me I recall that the line was once you worked at Fox News, you were damaged goods and no reputable outfit would hire you. Alisyn’s 15+ years at FNC seem to have had the opposite effect: it’s made her a highly-valued member of the CNN team.”

  80. joeremi Says:

    You said it, you own it.

    I’ve said a million times I get links on Twitter. If that’s all you’ve got, you haven’t actually answered the comment.

  81. Studies show pregnant women least likely to vote for ObamaCare because of crappy cost vs. benefits and loss of doctor of choice. DNC leaked memo of potential punishments points to traffic control as a weapon.

  82. A minder in the Dear Leader tradition.

  83. Why not a retro Meet The Press with a moderator and rotating questioning by four members of the press?

    (for a transcript of my question write Merkel Press)

  84. Posted: Jul 22, 2014 6:00 PM EDT
    ACCOKEEK, Md. (AP) – Beretta U.S.A. announced Tuesday that company concerns over a strict gun-control law enacted in Maryland last year have made it necessary to move its weapons making out of the state to Tennessee.

    About 300 jobs in the new Tennessee facility. Beretta will continue making the M9 pistol for U.S. Armed Forces in Maryland until current contracts run out.

  85. joeremi Says:

    So Megyn managed to alter her FAA story tonight without bothering to admit that she’d altered it. She stipulated that Ukrainian airspace had been restricted since MH17, without mentioning that she had said it wasn’t restricted at all yesterday; then she had Brooke Goldstein on to push back on her previous night’s allegation that the administration used the FAA restriction of Ben Gurion to harm Israel economically, but responded that it was still political. Megyn never got around to how it was still political tonight, but differently from what she said last night.

    The problem remains: Megyn Kelly blatantly lied about the FAA yesterday in order to support some grand conspiracy against Israel. All she did tonight was massage the story without telling her viewers she changed anything. You want to be a journalist, Megyn? Stop lying.

  86. not reported widely, but yesterday’s gunman at the Philadelphia medical complex was shot by a physician carrying his own firearm before others were shot.

  87. You want to be a POTUS, Barack, Stop lying.

  88. FOX NEWS, LOS ANGELES – When Luke Grimes started on HBO’s “True Blood” last season his character James Kent was wooing a female vampire. But Grimes reportedly quit in December when he found out Kent was bisexual and starting a romantic relationship with a g@y character in the seventh and final season.

    “It’s pretty clear Luke will suffer as a result. Hollywood will either say he was unprofessional or a phobe of some sort,” added Dan Gainor, VP of Business and Culture at the Media Research Center. “It is his prerogative, but he will suffer for it.”

  89. Plucked from the ether:

    “…squirrelly corrections.

    These things must be done with sincerity and concern for their object in order to be truly of service.”

  90. LynnLGM Says:

    George Stephanopolous never hosted a blatantly partisan show, which puts him on par with most of the rest of the media. They’re not comparable.

  91. No, he was just a blatantly partisan campaign manager/ communications director for a President. I’ll say they were comparable if I were commenting in the right thread.

  92. LynnLGM Says:

    Sorry ’bout that. I’m not getting any younger, it would appear.

  93. just teas’n🙂

  94. savefarris Says:

    @SirMixALot: I never did say I liked big butts. That was a rap-o. #jonathangruber

  95. savefarris Says:

    Uh oh: Ed’s off his meds.

    Today’s topic: Why isn’t Obama getting credit for our BOOMING economy?

  96. LynnLGM Says:

    I keep hearing Carville and Juan Williams talking about that, and keep waiting for Billo to introduce them to reality. It never quite happens,

  97. joeremi Says:

    Are you guys sure those three fellows actually said “booming”? I didn’t see any of those segments, so I’ll await your wisdom.

  98. LynnLGM Says:

    Carville keeps ranting about how the economy is increasing at a rate greater than in some number of decades. I mean, even for a liberal, it’s, it’s..delusional. Williams isn’t quite that bad, but he’s clearly spouting the White House talking-points, which made his match with Hannity, Ron Fournier in the middle, quite amusing.

  99. joeremi Says:

    Thanks, Lynn, that sounds a little more nuanced than BOOMING. There’s nothing wrong with a Democrat trying to accentuate what positives he can find in current economic conditions.

  100. savefarris Says:

    Are you guys sure those three fellows actually said “booming”?

    Let’s go to 1:40 on the videotape!

    To be fair, Ed’s two guests weren’t as “unicorns and rainbows forever!” as Ed was. But Ed’s clear point in the first 20 minutes were that corporate profits were up and everyone was doing great!

    ….
    ….



    He then spent the rest of the show complaining that corporations aren’t paying their fair share and that wages aren’t growing.

    Apparently Bush is still President at the bottom of the hour.

  101. joeremi Says:

    Yep, that sounds like Big Eddie. I would’ve been more surprised by Carville and Williams.

  102. Who does FNC have on the ground in Israel and Gaza? Have been intrigued by CNN’s reporting there the last few days. Every time I turn on FNC, they aren’t covering it.

  103. Conor Powell is in Gaza City reporting live for FNC.

  104. paminwi Says:

    Besides Conor Powell they also have John Huddy on very regularly. Leland Vittert has been there also, though I think he is on a break now. David Lee Miller was in Israel at the very beginning of the conflict also, though I think he is back in the US now.

  105. Great. Thanks! Have also enjoy Sara Sidner’s reporting from CNN. Checked out AJAM’s coverage last night. While I was treated to four taped packages from Gaza’s point of view, I learned nothing about Israel’s work. Hmmm… sounds a little suspect to me. In their defense, I did watch a fascinating piece on immigration. Don’t think they will be brandishing the motto “Fair and Balanced” anytime soon, however.

  106. savefarris Says:

    The same administration that two weeks ago was telling us corporations were incapable of expressing morality (Hobby Lobby) are now demanding that corporations express patriotism (inversions).

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