Free for All: 08/06/14

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64 Responses to “Free for All: 08/06/14”

  1. This morning on Jose Diaz-Balart’s show Col. Jack Jacobs said Bowe Bergdahl still has not spoken to his parents, and apparently has no interest in doing so. So we had POTUS trotting out the soldier’s parents, which resulted in Bergdahl’s dad getting the “he looks like a Muslim” treatment; then a media campaign by some soldiers to paint Berghdahl as a deserter; with a nice little detour at FNC into “he converted to Islam”. Then we discovered Bergdahl spent two years in a 6 x 6 box and was tortured.

    After all this, so far the only information we have on Sgt. Bergdahl’s current status is that the Army found no misconduct during captivity, the soldier has not spoken to his parents, and he has been returned to duty. The Army is still investigating the circumstances of his capture, and may yet discipline Bowe Bergdahl for some thing or another, but at this point the answer to the question “Who screwed up the presentation to the media of the soldier’s release from captivity?” seems to be “everybody”.

  2. Someone was discussing Arwa Damon, in a rather negative fashion, and I seem to recall some nostalgia-tinged reference to Ernie Pyle. Um, do we realize that in the days of Ernie Pyle, you didn’t hear people’s private activities reported, to any great extent? Particularly when they’re in a war-zone, risking their lives. Not to say that Ms Damon might not have a problem, but try being over there, and see how you act.

  3. Oh, right..Arwa Damon, who apparently is fodder for bizarre attacks, including the New York Post calling her apology “groveling”, because she happens to work for the wrong network. That was swell.

  4. Oh for goodness sake she bit 2 EMS personnel when she was drunk. This happened at the US Embassy in Bagdad and the EMS personnel are now suing CNN.

    If she wants to get drunk in her hotel bar – no problem. But when you do it at the US Embassy and bite people it is going to be a story especially now that CNN is being sued.

    Any professional wouldn’t bite people no matter where you are and what you are going through. If all she had done was get drunk I am sure there would be no story because I am guessing lots of reporters in tense zones/war zones get drunk once in a while.

  5. I don’t see anyone complaining that this is a story, Pam. The question (for me) is the decency in going after a woman after she’s apologized as “groveling”. Did the NY Post do the same thing to Gregg Jarrett? I highly doubt it.

  6. Nope, never said it shouldn’t be a story. It certainly was when Gregg Jarrett scuffled with police and was slurring on-air.

    When you’ve lost Twitchy, then I don’t know what. I sense a shift in the force-field with Coulter, not unlike the one with Sarah Palin. Except that it’s tough to imagine Palin essentially attacking Christian charity, toward a cause she disapproves.
    http://twitchy.com/2014/08/06/detestable-harpy-ann-coulters-column-on-ebola-doctor-will-make-you-sick/

  7. savefarris Says:

    Tonight on MSNBC: Republicans need to pass anti-inversion legislation so those eeeevil corporations can’t get out of paying their fair share.

    Not tonight on MSNBC: Our hosts aren’t paying their fair share.

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/2014/08/03/ny-post-sharpton-businesses-owe-million-tax-debt/13556445/

  8. Outsider Says:

    Too bad Franklin Graham won’t condemn the vicious attacks on the two Samaritan’s Purse aid workers. Don’t need to mention names and give them the attention they crave but it would be nice to see him stand up for people in the organization he manages. Plus, he has a bit of influence. But sadly, he’s promoting Todd Starne’s book on social media instead.

  9. Kiran Chetry was impressive during her 2-night run on CNN this week. I never saw her much on American Morning, and don’t remember her at all from Fox. She has an unusual ‘real’ presence I liked..I hope she gets more air-time.

  10. Inversions: funny things happened when the government got involved in the GM mess. Liked then then, don’t like them so much now.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-06/obama-let-delphi-avoid-taxes-in-tactic-president-assails.html

  11. icemannyr Says:

    Something some of us though might never happen has.
    CNBC is finally producing live shows in full HD video.
    Mad Money episodes on CNBC.com are now in HD with full 16:9 video.
    It appears the other live shows from 6am-6pm are still being shown in downconverted 4:3 video with the graphics wing on the right side.

  12. Anybody watch Jose Diaz hyphenated something or other? I haven’t seen it. I’ve caught about 10 mins in total of it on satellite radio. Anyway, is it a news show? Advocacy show?

  13. Diaz-Balart’s show is a hybrid of news and immigration talk. So far I’ve been a little surprised by how evenhanded the immigration segments are, considering the ideology of the network. There’s an evident bias towards compassion for the plight of those trying to get here, but Jose does a decent job of representing the problems it causes for this country, too.

    Where the show really shines is in actually talking about the complexities of illegal immigration, rather than simplistic talking points. If “close the border, send ’em all home” was simple and easy, we would’ve done it already.

  14. Thanks. I’ll have to check it out.

  15. savefarris Says:

    If “close the border, send ‘em all home” was simple and easy, we would’ve done it already.

    Well no, because we haven’t had a POTUS who held that position since at least 1992.

  16. You wanna debate closed borders, take it up with the history of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. I answered LS’s question, and ain’t sticking around to play games with you.

  17. savefarris Says:

    According to The Daily Beast’s standard, The Daily Beast just incited murder: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/08/07/daily-beast-targets-rand-paul

  18. savefarris Says:

    I’ll just leave this here…

  19. Outsider Says:

    CNN should stick with CNNi during overnights even if this round of the Israel-Gaza conflict ends. Similar to BBC News Channel in the UK simulcasting BBC World News during overnights. Don’t know if this is desirable financially for CNN but it is for the Beeb.

  20. savefarris Says:

    CNN is just on a roll today. Wolf Blitzer showing just how memorable that moment really was (wait for it…)

  21. So…..what do we say about those evil Democrats for this graphic?.

    I only hear complete and total silence. Hear the crickets chirping???

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/07/rand-paul-democrats-enemy-1.html

  22. All these years later, and all you have is a target graphic? Sorry, that’s not going to fly. Put some gun sights on there, and place it next to a politician stating on Facebook “Don’t retreat. Instead, reload” and you might have something. You’re grasping at a very old straw.

  23. savefarris Says:

    joe’s gonna need some asprin for his back after moving those goalposts.

  24. savefarris Says:

    Hey NFLN, I get you’re trying to drive folks to subscribe to your preseason app. But there’s NFL games live NOW and you’re replaying the Sunday night game?!?

  25. Those goalposts are exactly where I left them when we had this debate 3 years ago. Generic political target maps were not an issue for me then, so I’m not going to make them an issue now.

  26. savefarris Says:

    “comments like “don’t retreat, reload”, coupled with maps with crosshairs on them, are not helpful. ” —joe, 1/8/11

    So we have here the Daily Beast saying “Enemy #1” coupled with a picture with a target on it. Similar to everyone not hopelessly biased, but not to joe. They didn’t use the exact same words, so it’s totally different yous guys!

  27. Yes, Farris, this is exactly what I am saying. I think the examples are significantly different, which is why I said so. You guys have anything related to actual current events involving relevant personalities you want to discuss, or shall I leave you to play a 3-year-old game of Poor Sarah? Knock yourselves out.

  28. Speaking of current and relevant, how cool was it to see Chris Jansing ask the president a question at a presser? She took a long road to that moment.

  29. icemannyr Says:

    CNN changed to being live at 10pm-12am.
    FNC did two live updates at 10:15pm and 10:45pm on Iraq. Hannity was not live.
    At 11pm CNN and MSNBC are live. FNC is airing O’Reilly which is outdated since Obama’s press conference on Iraq. They did put an updated lower third on screen at times about Iraq.

  30. CNN was live through the overnight hours simulcasting CNN International. Al Jazeera America and MSNBC resumed regular programming at 12am.

    At 10am (Friday): CNN is live with Wolf Blitzer and Carol Castello anchoring Breaking News, all Iraq and Gaza. MSNBC has also been covering U.S. airstrikes on Iraq as well as the hurricanes. Al Jazeera America was live with international simulcast at 9am but went to taped “Consider This” at 10am.

  31. The music on CNN is epic but way over-the-top. It sounds like the score to a Hollywood big budget superhero film.

  32. savefarris Says:

    @BarackObama: FACT: President Obama kept his promise to end the war in Iraq. Romney called the decision to bring our troops home “tragic.” (source)

  33. savefarris Says:

    And since we’ve got the way-back machine fired up, how about checking in with our good friend Ezra?

  34. savefarris Says:

    I can quit anytime: here’s Professor Biden

  35. Yeah, it’s President Obama’s fault that Nouri al-Maliki shunned the Sunnis and we should’ve stayed there forever. Brilliance.

  36. It’s also President Obama’s fault that President Bush invaded Iraq for no good reason, am I right?

  37. savefarris Says:

    I mean, if we’re playing that game…

    It’s President Bush’s fault that Carter let the Ayatollah overthrow the Shaw. It’s also 43’s fault that 41 didn’t finish the job.

    I see no reason why the comments I mentioned above shouldn’t get the same level of playback as did Cheney’s “greeted as liberators”. Obama and friends were just as wrong.

  38. the world is less violent than…
    I have no idea if our current actions are the right thing, and I sure as Hell hope they are. Having said that, the quote that you reference should go down in history, along with “Read my lips”, “Tear down this wall”, and “I did not have”.

  39. Al Jazeera America has been dreadful today. They’re completely asleep. Just in the last half hour, there have been three major developments in the battle for Iraq and AJAM is at tape. This is the fourth time they’ve been at tape during breaking developments today.

  40. “Obama and friends were just as wrong.”

    Obama got elected because Americans wanted out of Iraq. As recent developments are proving, if we wanted to maintain a stable Iraq, we’d have to have a permanent occupation there. That means American soldiers being killed every single day for years and years and years and years and years. Nobody, except for far-right hawks like McCain, wants that.

    As for “terrorism”, give me a effing break. You’re more likely to get murdered in the streets of Baltimore by some gang member than get blown up by an ISIS militant in New York.

  41. Outsider Says:

    Iraq should never have been invaded but it happened and no one can change that. The focus should be on what approach should be taken on the mess that’s in front of the world currently. I never liked the invasion of Iraq but once a mess has been made, it needs to cleaned up. On Iraq, the attitude of Obama has been ‘it’s Bush’s fault not mine so I don’t have to care too much about it’ and unfortunately for the world, things don’t work that way. Obama was warned about sectarian violence would flare up again and seemed to not have cared. Sure, you can blame the Iraqi govt, but according to many analysts, the Obama administration didn’t try to negotiate that hard because the political success from withdrawing from Iraq despite the consequences was more important. Fixing problems, ones he or she started or ones caused by predecessors is what a real leader does and Obama has shown little to no leadership whatsoever.

  42. I think trying to come up with some version of how the current president “lost Iraq” when the entire operation was hopeless to begin with…is ridiculous. We have an huge problem and we have to deal with it, bit this unforgivable mess was handed to us by a bunch of neo-con lunatics who hadn’t the faintest idea what the geopolitical reality was in the Persian Gulf a dozen years ago, led by a president with the IQ of a shoe. This is Bush’s War, and we’re all stuck with it while that idiot sits in a room painting his little doggie.

  43. savefarris Says:

    You’re more likely to get murdered in the streets of Baltimore by some gang member than get blown up by an ISIS militant in New York.

    That’s less an endorsement of ISIS than it is an indictment of Baltimore. Either way, ‘The world is less violent…’ is as operative as ‘If you like your plan…’.

    Obama got elected because Americans wanted out of Iraq.

    Obama got elected because he told America that Bin Ladin was dead and GM was alive. And our friends in the media just ran out of time before they could fact check that: it was much more important to verify the traveling conditions of Romney’s pooch.

  44. savefarris Says:

    this unforgivable mess was handed to us by a bunch of neo-con lunatics who hadn’t the faintest idea what the geopolitical reality was in the Persian Gulf a dozen years ago

    You couldn’t be more right.

  45. I’m surprised to see Zurawik bother with Sean Hannity, and so is he. It’s long overdue. The most irritating thing about Fox is their propensity to misstate (putting it kindly) what other networks are doing. Another way to put is when he calls Sean “a pathetically self-deluding liar living in a Fox bubble…”. And that’s just for starters.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/tv/z-on-tv-blog/bal-sean-hannity-silly-andshameless-cable-news-20140808,0,7094101.story?dtoc

  46. “The media (I didn’t bother to watch) is ignoring this story!” used to be lazy blather from Gregg Gutfeld at 3am. Now it’s all over that wretched network.

  47. savefarris Says:

    Now it’s all over that wretched network.

    It helps if it’s true. A Republican President wouldn’t have gotten away with 5% of the shenanigans that Obama has.

  48. savefarris Says:

    You’re more likely to get murdered in the streets of Baltimore by some gang member than get blown up by an ISIS militant in New York.

    “Not True” says one of those crazy neo-con right-wing tea-party nutjobs: http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/feinstein-warns-of-risk-of-isil-attack-on-america-says-must-be-confronted/?dcz=

  49. Imagine that, local stations in Roanoke refuse to interrupt local programming for a national news broadcast again. I’m shocked they even air the network news in the evening.

  50. That’s less an endorsement of ISIS than it is an indictment of Baltimore. Either way, ‘The world is less violent…’ is as operative as ‘If you like your plan…’.

    Watch it, buddy…

    Obama got elected because he told America that Bin Ladin was dead and GM was alive. And our friends in the media just ran out of time before they could fact check that: it was much more important to verify the traveling conditions of Romney’s pooch.

    I said elected, not re-elected.

  51. savefarris Says:

    If we’re limiting the scope to the 2008 election…

    Obama won the primary because DEMOCRATS wanted out of Iraq and Obama’s position (not being around for the vote) was much more appealing than HRC’s.

    As for the general, Obama could have held the position that he was sending an additional 20 million troops: no Republican was winning after the economy cratered in October.

  52. Short memories. Plenty of Republicans had turned on the Iraq war as well. But, Benghazi.

  53. savefarris Says:

    @LilMissRightie

    Obama in 2008: I’ll end the war in Iraq.
    Obama in 2011: I ended the war in Iraq.
    Obama in 2014: Iraq? Well, don’t look at me.

  54. savefarris Says:

    CNN April 2007:

    Wolf: “What if [McCain]’s right, and what you’re proposing and a lot of Democrats are proposing results in genocide in Iraq?

    Obama: Look over there!

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0704/01/le.01.html

  55. icemannyr Says:

    Pirro read a statement from the National Border Patrol Council from Twitter then asked guest Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, if he agreed. Moran said, “Yes mam I do I wrote it so it would be disingenuous of me if I disagreed.”.

  56. Soledad O’Brien has a special on CNN, Tuesday night. Is she still with Al Jazeera? Nice to see her back, anyway.

  57. icemannyr Says:

    According to this article “O’Brien has been working on projects ranging from producing documentaries for CNN to being a special correspondent for Al Jazeera America.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/soledad-obrien-2014-102442.html

  58. Is it wrong to just ..laugh at this? And leaving aside the obvious, why would you pay for a subscription when you know that the highlights will be readily available?
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/palins-new-bit-on-liberals-and-fast-food-wages-is-a-tad-incoherent/

  59. Palin

    Liberals, fast food is the Devil, something about Purgatory. Well gosh, Sarah, thanks for that.

  60. National media coverage of the death of the Tony Stewart incident has been disgusting. Spud, want my review?

  61. Fox Sports 1 had some legal guy on tonight who was convinced Tony would be charged with manslaughter. It’s obviously a possibility, but the segment had a Fox News-type sensationalism to it that seemed strange for such a severe and terrible story.

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