Free for All: 09/18/14

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  1. Guest On cnn says some Obama critics want significant US forces on the ground. Goes unchallenged by Costello. Of course.

  2. Fox could go a long way toward disproving this by just ignoring the comment, on any and all of its yap shows. Let’s do this!
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/viggo-mortensen-fox-news-so-appallingly-shallow-and-manipulative/

  3. And there it is. The media’s biggest racist, Michael Eric Dyson, blames the Adrian Peterson story on slavery. Biggest bigot on TV.

  4. To be fair to Dyson (and even I can’t believe I just typed that), Don Lemon beat Dyson to the punch.

  5. Yeah, you might want to read a little history before throwing around words like ‘racist’ and ‘bigot’. Goldie Taylor has been talking about the origins of beatings with switches reaching back to the time of slavery. It’s a cultural phenomenon which Dyson and Taylor are qualified to speak on.

  6. I’ll give Lemon a pass because he comes across as honest. Dyson is a racist who blames everything on whitey. Once I heard he was the next scheduled guest, I wondered how he’d blame whitey. It’s all he does. He’s the media’s biggest bigot by a long shot.

  7. This guy has a stream of thought rebutting that idea. I won’t pretend to know, one way or the other, but ‘whupping’ isn’t exactly a rare, unknown thing. I seem to recall ‘paddling’ being a threat in my grade-school, in Florida. NY never heard of such a thing.
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    Can all of these ridiculous pundits, analysts & talking heads stop spreading this narrative that Black folks… http://fb.me/71k8NOFzW

  8. ^ People like Dyson bring everything back to slavery. It’s ignorant but it plays to the masses that eat that stuff up.

  9. Opinion! Fox News!
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/shep-smith-bets-earnest-every-penny-i-will-ever-make-that-saudis-and-jordan-wont-join-anti-isis-coalition/

    Oops, Shep is the “good” kind of FNC anchor. And, he’s not a blonde female. So, neermind.

  10. Now the theory is that a Fox anchor gets a pass on challenging an Obama PressSec because he’s not a blonde woman. Well ok then!

  11. Shep challenges a member of Obama’s Admin on an obvious point of contention. That’s terrible.

  12. Esquire Magazine VERY VERY close to joining the David Shuster club: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/christie-investigation

  13. Hannity says “It ‘s so common.”.
    It being the use of switches in the south to discipline kids.

  14. Well yeah, Goldie Taylor says it’s common, too. She just doesn’t think this makes it ok..

  15. FNC was live first for the Scotland projected ‘No/Better Together’ win then MSNBC. CNN was completely absent unless there was a headlines update because they were showing an endless true crime film for the last few hours. CNN failed. This referendum date was set 2 years ago, they knew the break-up of the UK was possible.

  16. I guess CNN got to it at 1am, when the second showing of Tighty Whitey was over.

  17. For coverage of the Scotland vote In the 2am ET hour

    CNN is simulcasting CNNi.
    FNC has Marianne Rafferty in the newsroom and is simulcasting Sky News.
    MSNBC was doing their own coverage of the Scotland Vote results with
    Richard Lui and Richard Wolffe.

    No coverage on AJAM. Not sure why AJAM did now show AJE who I am sure was covering the vote.
    No coverage from OAN either.

  18. AJE is normally on tape at that hour but they did carry PM David Cameron’s speech but after that they went back to their scheduled documentary. Even though AJE had a scheduled taped program, they cut into it due to a significant live event. Take note CNN.

  19. CNN’s Nic Robertson just got drunk bombed.
    pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx4HpmtCcAA4uwG.jpg:large

  20. My only guess is CNN expected the vote to not be called before 1am ET so they went with the movie again at 11pm.

  21. Jon Stewart’s Moment Of Zen was Shep giving Earnest the ‘ya kiddin me, right’. It was awesome.😉

  22. Ice, do you know what the deal is with WWofW and when it will be back up?

  23. How does MSNBC cover the news that Christie not involved in “Bridgegate”?

    Well, but, but, but, but he’s in trouble in Iowa and people don’t like him in Idaho cuz, this and bad news for him because something and we still hope somebody will be indicted for something.

    Nothing about the 24/7 non-stop coverage they provided extending every crackpot conspiracy theory (hello Rachel Maddow) originally.

  24. “the news that Christie not involved in “Bridgegate”?”

    It’s an anonymous leak from “federal sources”. Maybe it’s true maybe it’s not. The NJ Federal Prosecutor’s spokesperson will only say the investigation is continuing. Lots more to come.

  25. You’ll also love this. This “fact” was disproved about 20 years ago, yet Mika claims it and Joe affirms it, like the good little boy that he frequently is.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/sep/18/mika-brzezinski/mika-brzezinski-repeats-myth-super-bowl-sunday-has/

  26. ^ It’s still an extremely sad day for Rachel Maddow and all of her “we can now exclusively report” wingnut conspiracy theories.

    It’s funny, she used to be respectable. I was once a fan. Now, she’s a crank. But, she’s really, really smart (just ask anyone) and can make mixed drinks.

  27. “It’s an anonymous leak from “federal sources”.”

    Entire hours were built around less. Kornacki in particular needs to make this news story #1 on UP given his zeal in pushing the original allegations.

  28. “It’s funny, she used to be respectable. I was once a fan. Now, she’s a crank.”

    ^^Your certainly entitled to your opinion LS but I doubt you were ever a real fan. People with a different ideology than a particular host often say they were a fan in the past to try and give their comments a sense of sad disappointment in that particular host’s recent decline. It rarely works.

  29. “Kornacki in particular needs to make this news story #1 on UP given his zeal in pushing the original allegations.”

    ^^I’m sure he’ll cover the story tomorrow and give it the full coverage it deserves; which isn’t much. It’s a leak from an anonymous source. It may have merit – or not.

  30. I was a fan. It was prior to her being given her own show, though. She changed. She used to argue based on facts and wasn’t just a bomb-thrower. Now, she finds some mayor of a town of 450 people in the middle of nowhere who said something stupid and uses it to tar the entire Republican party. Well, when she’s not busy “exclusively reporting” nonsense about a bridge and a Governor who disagrees with her on taxes.

    I’ve always said I used to be a fan of hers. Matthews, too. I was never a fan of Olbermann, LOD, Sharpton or Martin Bashir. And, you won’t find an instance of me ever saying I was.

  31. I’ve been a fan of plenty of people I disagree with. Before Anthony Weiner showed everybody his weiner, I was a fan of his. I like Dennis Kucinich. Ed Rendell. Bob Beckel. To name a few. Basically, I like people who are (or appeared to be) principled. I probably don’t agree with Kucinich on a single thing but I think he truly believes what he says. So, I like him.

  32. I’m quite content to wait until the investigation is complete. That bridge was blocked on the first day of school for some reason which still makes no logical sense to anybody. The evidence points to it being a political stunt to harm someone not thought to be a friend of the governor. But it’s just some bridge, and who cares, right? No, that’s not good enough. It was an unsafe thing to do, and the public deserves to know who did it, and why.

  33. Goodell isn’t going to resign and it would be stupid for him to do so. He’s the first person who’s brought accountability to NFL players. Nothing he has done, hasn’t done, will do in the future, won’t do in the future will have any impact on individual players hitting their wives or girlfriend’s.

    I’ve never understood people who get all giddy about seeing people fired just cuz. If actions taken which will have no impact on anything going forward make you feel warm inside because it brings down someone more successful than you; you have a problem.

  34. I’ve never said a word about Goodell being fired, and I don’t think anyone else on this blog has, either. An honorable man in his position would resign and go sit on a lake for a couple years, but he doesn’t have the integrity. It would be better for the league for Roger Goodell to get some. Apparently that’s not going to happen.

  35. I’m quite content to wait until the investigation is complete.

    It’s been 9 months. If they don’t have anything by now, they’re not going to.

    …Unless … the Prosecutor pulls a Rick Perry and indicts Christie for eating a ham sandwich.

  36. I wasn’t talking about you, fella. A press conference just ended. It was on all the cable news networks and ESPN in case you missed it.

    Oh, and a whopping 29% of the public believe he should resign. That’s even less (by 5%) than those who feel Obama is doing a bang up job on foreign policy.

  37. 29% roughly equates to journalists, people who know nothing about the NFL, family of those suspended and Saints fans.

  38. I haven’t the faintest idea why the investigation is taking so long, and it’s not my problem. That bridge got blocked, and someone needs to give the public a straight answer as to why. I’m waiting…

  39. I’ll be ok with the majority not agreeing with me about Goodell. The majority also think Fox News is a decent cable channel, and Guy Feiri is a real hoot.

  40. Fieri’s a real catch, right? I love a man who can deal with my worst cooking.

  41. If only a small percentage think Goodell resigning would be the right thing, how can you say it would be better for the league if he did?

  42. I think the scandal will continue, and will cause longterm damage to the credibility of the NFL if Goodell digs in his heels. The polls can’t show a thing like that this early.

  43. “I’m quite content to wait until the investigation is complete. That bridge was blocked on the first day of school for some reason which still makes no logical sense to anybody.”

    ^^ Christie may skate on the GWB affair; but the Zimmer charges are more problematic. That’s where he could get caught. I just don’t know if his LG or Sampson are willing to take one for the governor.

    No matter what happens I do think Sampson is toast. Time for the golden handshake and spending more time with the family.

  44. “I think the scandal will continue, and will cause longterm damage to the credibility of the NFL if Goodell digs in his heels.”

    ^^ If Goodell and the NFL wanted to fix this problem they could. Every pro football player signs a morals clause that says they can be fired for doing harm to the league or their team. The problem is the teams don’t want to lose star players and so enforce the clause selectively. A third stringer linebacker gets dumped; a starting wide receiver gets a pass. That has to change for this to end.

  45. Oh, and a whopping 29% of the public believe he should resign.

    Only 23% want the Redskins to change their name. It’s only fair that the media give the anti-Roger crowd even more pup than the anti-Redskin crowd.

  46. Hey, remember when everyone in the media demanded Republicans voice whether or not they agreed with Trent Lott’s stance on Strom Thurmond?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/09/19/biden-to-womens-conference-i-miss-republicans-like-bob-packwood/

    Your move, Media!

  47. Nice timing, Roger.

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  48. Your move, Media!

    Biden has been getting grief for this on MSNBC and Twitter all day. Your move, people who don’t actually check media!

  49. Long term damage to the NFL? No chance. This will barely measure as a blip on the radar when things are all said and done.

  50. “the news that Christie not involved in “Bridgegate”?”

    “^^It’s an anonymous leak from “federal sources”. Maybe it’s true maybe it’s not. The NJ Federal Prosecutor’s spokesperson will only say the investigation is continuing. Lots more to come.”

    ^^Update: NBC is reporting that Brian Williams got it wrong when he said that Christie wasn’t involved in Bridgegate.

  51. Look, someone screwed with that bridge, and that email exchange made it sound like they’d done it before. So Christie apologists can hem and haw about technicalities ’til they’re blue in the face, but somebody in that trainwreck of a state government backed an entire town up on the first day of school, and again on Sep. 11th, a day you might not want a NY/NJ bridge backed up in case something bad happened.

    Somebody is going to tell us why that happened, and if it points towards anything resembling getting retribution against someone Christie was pissed at, he’s going to have to answer for it.

  52. We already know who “somebody” is: Bridget Anne Kelly, who has long since been fired.

    The crew that keeps complaining that Benghazi (where we still don’t know the somebody) is being over-investigated cannot justify continued inquiries into this matter.

  53. Kornacki’s lead story today: Ray Rice.

    FAIL!

  54. One of the UP panelists compares Goodell’s presser with Christie. Everyone laughs and Kornacki says “We’ll cover that tomorrow.”

    In a just world, Christie would have standing to sue for defamation of character. (And this coming from someone who hopes Christie finishes dead last in the primary)

  55. “In a just world, Christie would have standing to sue for defamation of character.”

    ^^Who would you suggest Christie sue? NBC? Kornacki? The federal prosecutor? His former staff? Sampson?🙂

  56. I’d love to hear from the crew working the cones. Has anyone ever asked them what they thought of why they were there?

  57. Wish Disqus commenting software was available with WordPress.

    Lot’s of good civil debate here unlike the very one-sided J$P or the vitriol, name-calling and off-topic posts at Mediaite.

    This doesn’t mean I still don’t find a reason to occasionally visit those sites — with Disqus I might add. 🙂

    Enjoy your weekend everyone. My only wish is that there was a better slate of televised college football games — except for Clemson vs. FSU.

    Oh well, it’s a good opportunity to get outside and enjoy life.

  58. “Lot’s of good civil debate here unlike the very one-sided J$P or the vitriol, name-calling and off-topic posts at Mediaite.”

    ^^ This is a moderated blog so trolls eventually go too far and get banned. A lot of those people end up at J$’s and Mediate and they can have them.

    Never heard of Disqus. Care to enlighten.

  59. Hey, Michael! I don’t mind the linear comment format here. If you want to respond to a specific person or topic, you just tag them/it at the beginning. Like I just did right here.🙂

  60. Hey fritz3,
    Disqus is the commenting software used at J$P, Mediaite and over 750K websites last I heard.

    As a retired software developer nerd I am a big fan of being able to edit my comments (as an old codger prone to typos) and receive email notifications when someone replies to your comment.

    MT

  61. Michael, there’s a tab on the main page, right side, which says “Follow ICN on Email”, and it sends you new posts and comments. Might want to send it to a little-used email account, though. It can pile up.

  62. I like that “Follow ICN on Email” option … TY for the tip.

  63. I thought Goodell would be gone because I’m accustomed to how that stuff goes in politics. Sterling also took awhile to leave, assuming he’s actually gone.

  64. Roger Goodell is like Roger Ailes: He can be as dishonest and dishonorable as he wants as long as the ratings stay strong, and nobody in the organization cares to ask him to leave. Good work if you can get it.

  65. … Kinda like a politician.

  66. …Or a big bank CEO.

  67. … Or Charlie Rangel

  68. “Or Charlie Rangel”

    ^^ Last time I looked Charlie Rangel was a politician.🙂

  69. Good show on MTP again. I’m not a big fan of the two desk setup and hope it goes along with the ‘Last Supper’ main panel desk. Chuck says there off next week but will have a new set when they return on Oct. 5th. Yeaaa!

    Only real sour note was Grover Norquist; a walking one note talking point. Worst guest to date by far.

  70. Do you think Charlie Rangel considers himself a politician first… or does he seem himself as more of a “tax-cheat” and “slumlord” first?

  71. “Do you think Charlie Rangel considers himself a politician first… or does he seem himself as more of a “tax-cheat” and “slumlord” first?”

    ^^Politician.

  72. NYC mayor Bill de Blasio said climate change was personal because of Superstorm Sandy or something along those lines. See, it’s these types of comments that are completely unhelpful for get some actual action to reduce CO2 emissions. This reflexive blame climate change approach used by politicians and celebrities cause all the serious experts to lose credibility.

  73. I was wrong about Chuck Todd being the same as David Gregory. He’s actually worse. Whoever said MTP would be just like an MSNBC show was right, and it sucks all the ‘importance’ out of the show. This was a bad idea.

  74. Let the Lois Lerner Media Rehabilitation Tour commence!

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/lois-lerner-breaks-silence-irs-scandal-111181.html

    Who cares if she broke the law? She saved a puppy!

  75. Mary Landreiu: making Louisiana proud since 1997

    http://atr.rollcall.com/mary-landrieu-keg-stand-lsu/?dcz=

  76. Real nice of Howard Kurtz to do his show, without a single mention of the “girlfriend” who’s no longer there. They turn her into a Fox Tart, then cut her loose without so much as a “Don’t let the door hit ya!”. I guess he wasn’t too attached to that relationship.

  77. MSNBC has been running Gonzalez’ name, picture and story all morning.

  78. Harris Faulkner, News Anchor.

    mediaite.com/tv/foxs-harris-faulkner-finds-link-between-wh-fence-jumper-and-benghazi/ …

  79. “Remember that time we were caught in traffic on the Perimeter? It was just like Benghazi!”

  80. One America News is embarrassing. No live coverage of the Syria bombing nor are they even scrolling the news.

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