Free for All: 12/16/14

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  1. The Sony hackers are threatening movie theaters which play The Interview, with a reference to 9/11. We have a problem.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-hackers-release-latest-batch-758358?utm_source=twitter

  2. http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/15/pew-poll-majority-says-cia-interrogation-methods-after-911-were-justified-5129/

    Just another something to show how far out of touch with the American people the national media are.

  3. I’m quite happy to have a skeptical press which does not cover topics of morality based on majority public opinion. Because that would be insane.

  4. Chuck Todd just opined that the Middle East was more of a mess under Bush than it is under Obama. Lol. straight news anchor! Meet the Press host!

  5. savefarris Says:

    I’m all for a “skeptical” press!

    Where was the press’s skepticism when it comes to drone killing?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when it came to the UVA Rolling Stone article?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when it came to Jonathan Gruber’s comments which anyone with a connection to the internet could have accessed 2 years ago?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when it came to “If you like your doctor…”?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when Obama claimed that over 7 million enrolled last year?
    Where was the press’s skepticism for the past 6 years when the IRS was (and in some cases STILL IS) being used as a weapon against the Tea Party?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when it came to Al Sharpton ginning up riots?
    Where was the press’s skepticism when it came to Obama’s now unconstitutional amnesty?

    The skepticism only works if it goes both ways. Otherwise, you’re just a paid political hack.

  6. Short answer is the press is rarely ever skeptical when it comes to Dems. And as far as the Enhanced Interrogation report goes, the media feigns outrage because of their irrational hate for Bush & Cheney. They are helping the Dems rewrite history. But the poll shows that the average American sees through the political BS.

  7. Dick Cheney told Chuck Todd torture is planes into buildings, and anything short of that is not. This is not the Geneva Convention standard for torture, nor was it ours when we prosecuted the Japanese after WWII. Cheney also said he was fine with torturing and killing innocent people, both of which we did. The Bush Administration – or at the very least, Dick Cheney – should be prosecuted for war crimes.

  8. savefarris Says:

    Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant joeremi? Dick Cheney has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Enhanced Interrogation, and you curse everyone in the Bush Administration. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what Cheney knows — that those techniques, while tragic, probably saved lives; and Dick Cheney, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

    You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want Dick on that wall — you need Dick on that wall.

  9. Dick Cheney is a draft-dodging war criminal.

  10. Bwahahaha. We got one crank screaming “war criminal” and another linking to a crackpot website. Beautiful.

  11. “Bwahahaha. We got one crank screaming “war criminal” and another linking to a crackpot website. Beautiful.”

    ^^Easy LS. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t make them a “crank”. Calling them one makes you appear like a bully, which I don’t think you are.

  12. Calling a former VPOTUS a war criminal is the action of a crank. Any Republican who says Biden or Obama should be arrested for anything is a crank. If you’re that full of hate for someone because your politics are different, you’re a moonbat, unstable crackpot, IMO.

  13. Anyway, that’s where my crank remark stems from. Not because of a simple difference of opinion.

    You, Richard, Laura = not cranks. 🙂

  14. “Any Republican who says Biden or Obama should be arrested for anything is a crank.”

    ^^That’s a comment that will surely come back to haunt you next time you defend Cruz, Gohmert, King, Limbaugh, Hannity or any of the dozens of conservatives/Republicans who will be making just that charge over the next two years.🙂

  15. I saw this last night, and it was just weird. The segment was labeled “Fallout of Terror Attack at WH”, which Fox (don’t remember who) did with Sydney the day before, too. It’s a peculiar tick of Fox News that they would come at these stories from an America-centric, Republican-centric, “hey, how does this prove Obama did something wrong” angle. They treat world events as if they happened to us.

    newshounds.us/how_megyn_kelly_made_the_pakistan_terror_attack_about_president_obama_121614 …

  16. It will be fascinating to see how Obama’s coming changes in it’s relationship with Cuba play out in Congress next year. The first reaction will be a kneejerk hyperbolic rage by most conservatives and Republicans mostly just because it’s an action taken by Obama. If he had done the exact opposite the reaction, by most, would be the same.

    The thing is this is a generational issue much like g*y marriage where the younger you are (even if you’re of Cuban heritage) the less you care about the Cuban embargo.

    This will be yet another divisive issue for Republicans to navigate. There are a few Democratic politicians, like Senator Bob Menendez, who will be opposed, to this decision, but the real divide is on the right. What will Jeb Bush say? What will the other potential Republican POTUS candidates say? I’m pretty sure I know where Hillary and most Democrats stand but, like immigration, most Republicans are split on what to say and do about Cuba.

  17. Never heard any of those call Obama war criminal or advocate his arrest. And you’re not likely to see me defending Gohmert often anyway.

  18. “If the president does it, that means it’s not illegal.” – Richard Nixon, as told to David Frost in 1977.

    I think most Americans would disagree with this.

  19. Larry’s trying to break back in here so it’s time for some administrative Whack-a-mole I guess…

  20. The Sony emails scandal has mostly been covered as gossip (rude emails about movie stars), crime (the emails were stolen – should the press publish them?) or terrorism (connections to North Korea; threats to movie goers etc.) story. But there has been one important and newsworthy revelation few in the media are talking about.

    Emails show that female actors in the movie ‘American Hustle’ were paid much less than their male counterparts. If this is shown to be an isolated incident then it can be easily dismissed. But if there are emails/data files showing there is a pattern of gender wage discrimination; or if there are emails discussing not hiring actors or others because of race, religion or gender; then this could be a huge story.

    You can bet reporters are searching the stolen correspondence for just such connections. You can also bet corporate leaders in all industries, are scrubbing their email accounts to delete compromising emails.

  21. Jennifer Lawrence is the biggest star in Hollywood right now, and Amy Adams ain’t chump change, either. It’s ludicrous that they don’t warrant equal-or-more pay.

  22. The continuing evidence that Hollywood does not practice what it preaches is a huge story, and is far greater than any “gossip” concerns.

  23. “Bwahahaha. We got one crank screaming “war criminal” and another linking to a crackpot website. Beautiful.”

    Nobody linked to brietbart.com

  24. “The continuing evidence that Hollywood does not practice what it preaches is a huge story, and is far greater than any “gossip” concerns.”

    ^^This story has far reaching effects beyond ‘Hollywood’. Sony is a huge corporation that controls many companies in a number of countries. It is generally believed that gender wage discrimination is widespread and even if there are no more revelations at Sony (unlikely) I expect all business leaders will take these revelations very seriously. If it can happen at Sony it can happen elsewhere. These leaks may be the best thing that ever happened to those fighting for equal pay women in the US.

  25. “Larry’s trying to break back in here so it’s time for some administrative Whack-a-mole I guess…”

    ^^Thank you.

  26. You can bet reporters are searching the stolen correspondence for just such connections.

    And make a Democratic donor look bad? BWHAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They already buried the news that Hollywood Execs are bigger racists than the Kochs could ever hope to be. Why won’t the bury the news that these same Execs don’t practice what they preach when it comes to the #WarOnWomen?

  27. The hacked emails are stolen property and shouldn’t be used against anybody. It just would have been nice if all these Hollywood yahoo’s showed the same level of outrage when Palin was hacked.

  28. The racial and pay inequality stuff has been discussed extensively on MSNBC, as has the issue of reporting stolen information. Aaron Sorkin also discussed the latter on the Today show.

    The right is so accustomed to “knowing” what other outlets won’t cover that they don’t even check first anymore.

  29. I’ve seen plenty about it on CNN, including responses from Tyler Perry and Oprah. They may not be sufficiently “outraged” by the whole thing, but they’ve covered it.

  30. Anyone see the flaw in 700 Club host Pat Robertson’s logic in this statement?

    “You know those who are h*mosexual will die out because they don’t reproduce? You know you have to have h*eterosexual sex to reproduce?”

    Sometimes you just can’t make it up.🙂

  31. Old Pat thinks the g@y is hereditary, huh? That’s funny.

  32. Are they giving it the same coverage that they’d give an email from … say … Sarah Palin to David Koch?

    Didn’t think so.

    Aaron Sorkin also discussed the latter on the Today show.

    Was it anything like his NYT OpEd where he told the media to STFU about everything and not let out the precious secret that our Hollywood Elites are sexist racists?

  33. Here’s three not so funny comments Ann Coulter made recently on The Lars Larson Show.

    R*pe, most of the time is just “girls trying to get attention”

    The Rolling Stone story shows “there is no campus r*pe problem”

    unless the victim is “hit on the head with a brick” it isn’t legitimate r*ape

    Yuck.

  34. Ok, so now the Sony stuff isn’t “buried”, it just isn’t being discussed exactly to your liking. I’m glad we’ve cleared this up.

  35. What’s so great about The Interview is that they basically knew what they were dealing with when they made it. But now that they’ve made it, after poking Baby Bear, they’re running away like little children. Jay Thomas was on CNN, and made the point of how upset people were when someone made a movie about assassinating George Bush. Hollywood did the same with a guy who shoots nukes past us for the hell of it.
    What sucks is that now we have to pretend to support it, out of deference to free speech. Thanks, Hollywood.

  36. “What sucks is that now we have to pretend to support it, out of deference to free speech.”

    ^^No one, as far as I can tell, is saying that. Many more people will now see the movie out of curiosity but I doubt it will become a free speech issue any more than watching a Michael Moore movie or the TV series ’24’ is a free speech issue.

  37. I don’t think you can tag them as “running away like little children”. Theaters are canceling the film and the actors are in hiding because of mass casualty threats. That’s kind of a serious problem.

  38. Rogen and Rogen Jr are skipping out on appearances. I can’t really blame the theaters for being concerned, but these yabbos made the whole thing happen. Not to mention layers of approvals that went before it. They thought it would be a real hoot to piss this guy off, and they put a whole lot of folks at risk.

  39. Maybe it’s ‘Rogan’.

  40. It also has the added benefit of making us look incredibly weak, whether these moves are justified or not.

  41. I thought this might make the cut. Love how they call him ‘TV actor’, since few know who Jay Thomas is.
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/actor-stuns-cnn-host-north-korea-killing-rogen-and-franco-would-be-great-ending-to-careers/

  42. “It also has the added benefit of making us look incredibly weak”,

    ^^It not only makes us “look incredibly weak” but we actually are incredibly weak if we cave to a bunch of North Korean hackers over a movie. We talk a good game but cave at the first real threat.

    “whether these moves are justified or not.”

    ^^If this is justified then we are justified in caving to virtually any threat, no matter how ridiculous.

  43. There’s no “we” in this equation..the US Government isn’t caving to anything. It’s a movie made by private business, and private businesses are choosing not to play it. That is completely between them and whoever is sending the threats.

    I suspect Brooke doesn’t know “TV actor Jay Thomas” has been doing shock-jock radio for decades.

  44. “There’s no “we” in this equation..the US Government isn’t caving to anything.”

    ^^ The “we” I refer to is not the US government as they play a minor role in this story. The “we” is the USA as a country. The perception I get is that of a country whose people (and businesses) are afraid of random threats by extortionists. The theatres, producers, actors and movie goers should say screw you we will watch whatever we want when and wherever we want.

  45. I have no desire to see “The Interview” but this fear and paranoia is idiotic. You’re more likely to be mauled by a lion and a tiger in the same day than be blown up in a movie theater.

  46. “I have no desire to see “The Interview” but this fear and paranoia is idiotic. You’re more likely to be mauled by a lion and a tiger in the same day than be blown up in a movie theater.”

    My thoughts exactly.

  47. savefarris Says:

    The “we” is the USA as a country. The perception I get is that of a country whose people (and businesses) are afraid of random threats by extortionists. The theatres, producers, actors and movie goers should say screw you we will watch whatever we want when and wherever we want.

    seconded.

    We’re giving North Korea the hecklers veto over OUR Free Speech. And we’re giving everyone with a twitter feed instructions on how to tamp down anything someone else says you don’t particularly care for.

  48. Well I’m thrilled that y’all are such badass alpha male American lovers of America in America, but people bring wives and kids to movie theaters, then sit them down in a packed space in the dark. Theater owners and alpha male husbands and fathers have to think of these things. It’s very little about our own singular safety; much more about our responsibility to others.

  49. Whelp, the gig is up. Sony pulled the movie.

  50. John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz
    By the way, if the Norks are indeed involved, the idea the terrorist threat against theaters was not credible must hereby be revoked.

  51. Someone on Hardball mentioned that Sony is a Japan-based company, which I didn’t think of. NK and Japan despise each other.

  52. Guess that means Japan will behave for another 70 years.

  53. The pu$$ies at Sony and the theatres aren’t worried about terrorism. They’re worried about hacks and leaks. Whole thing is absurd.

  54. Typical. Just brush off any fear of terrorism ’cause you say so. That’s brilliant.

  55. savefarris Says:

    Well I’m thrilled that y’all are such badass alpha male American lovers of America in America, but people bring wives and kids to movie theaters, then sit them down in a packed space in the dark.

    People also fly in airplanes and live and work in Manhattan despite similar threats. Whatever happened to being defiant in the face of threats?

  56. “people bring wives and kids to movie theaters, then sit them down in a packed space in the dark. Theater owners and alpha male husbands and fathers have to think of these things. It’s very little about our own singular safety; much more about our responsibility to others.”

    ^^When I’m with my family in a crowded movie theater (or any public space ,for that matter) I’m far more concerned about some American born nutcase with a M16 and/or Glock with high capacity magazine and 500 rounds of ammo showing up than some follower of the Dear Leader arriving from North Korea with a bomb.

  57. Like I said, Farris, you can be as defiant as you want. The bottom line is that those theaters made a business decision, which I’m sure was partially based on the assumption that a lot of people wouldn’t show up.

    I don’t go to the movies by myself, I go with my daughter. After the extent to which NK went to hack Sony’s emails, there wasn’t a doubt in my mind that they were serious about attacking a movie theater. There’s no way I was going to take my kid to see that movie. I’ll be a badass with my OWN life, but I’m sure as hell not doing that to my family. Not gonna happen.

  58. @lone

    I think you have a point. Sony wasn’t so much concerned about the “terrorism” angle, as they were that this might stop the leaking of new information.

    A movie theater gets attacked is one thing… ruining a series of upcoming movies and losing out on all that profit, is another.

  59. ^ That’s just ignorant. “They don’t care about people being killed, they just don’t want to lose any money.” Grow up.

  60. Another problem with the theater threat is it would affect all the other movies. So now you have an entire industry tanking at Christmas, plus you’re asking all those kids making minimum wage doling out tickets and popcorn to risk their lives. There was no way this was going to work.

  61. I’ve seen suggestions that this is Sony’s way of collecting insurance, by completely shelving it. And the concern about further leaks makes total sense. You have the recent business with Cosby, which (IMO) everyone knew, and you have other possibilities, of a vaguely similar nature. They can say that it’s about a threat of terrorism, but their “terror” is likely elsewhere.

  62. Maybe Sony had it hacked. They’ll still release it just not in theatres, right? Some movies go direct to dvd anyway. I don’t like it, but I can understand why Sony decided to keep it out of theatres. They own it so it’s their choice to make.


    “If the president does it, that means it’s not illegal.” – Richard Nixon, as told to David Frost in 1977.

    I think most Americans would disagree with this.

    Then most Americans would be wrong. At best, the federal courts can rule an action by a president to be unconstitutional and order that action to cease. At worse, the president can flat-out ignore the order. The only constitutional recourse fo what is perceived to be an “unlawful act” would be impeachment by the House followed by removal from office by the Senate, and the former president (or vice president, as the case may be) would be shielded from criminal prosecution. As best I can from memory, I’m paraphrasing the late Justice Potter Stewart.

  63. Sony can release it outside of physical theaters, which (theoretically) avoids terror attacks, but that doesn’t solve the hacking threat. I suspect they’ve lost this battle: the Norks already have their emails, and Sony isn’t going to make a move which risks more being published.

  64. savefarris Says:

    All this film-shelving talk reminds me: why isn’t ‘Path to 9/11’ on DVD/BR/DC again?

    And does that mean that Harry Reid is officially a terrorist?

  65. Because “Path to 9/11” is revisionist propaganda crap with lines like “thank God George Bush is our president”. History deemed it irrelevant the night it aired.

  66. Speaking of “more being published”, this whole mess doesn’t happen if our crappy tabloid media wasn’t publishing stolen emails. This should have been handled internally between Sony and DHS. It’s pretty damn hard for NK to blackmail Sony if no one publishes the blackmail.

  67. Nobody is talking about terrorism concerns at a movie theatre. There have been no threats. Silly. I guarantee the theatre chain execs ate worried being hacked and Sony is worried about further leaks. I’ve literally read not one rational thoughtful person in defense of pulling the movie.

  68. You don’t read much, including the first post in this thread which contains the threat as first published. People can blather all they want from behind a keyboard about what they deem credible, but a real company had to make a real decision about what to do on Christmas Day.

  69. At what point did the left start believing corporations were more concerned about people and not profits?

    Oy.

    An attack on a movie theater because of their movie would reflect a little badly on Sony, but they would relatively easily be able to point to the authorities for failing to keep the public safe. Sony’s job isn’t national defense, after all. But, more leaks could hurt the careers of their execs, and ruin future movies which could deeply impact those profits. It’s far easier to pull this crappy movie, hopefully appease the hackers, and then Sony can continue with those movies as planned.

  70. “Sony’s job isn’t national defense, after all. But, more leaks could hurt the careers of their execs, and ruin future movies which could deeply impact those profits.”

    Yep. It’s about covering their arses; not some nonsense about public safety. The POTUS himself told the American people to go see a movie over Christmas. The terrorism fear is silly. As Andy pointed out, you’d have a better chance of being mauled by a lion and a tiger in the same day.

    Nobody is coming to the defense of Sony or the theatres on this one. Even Carol Costello made this point this morning. I’ve literally heard of no one not connected with Sony or the theatres defending this move.

  71. This is a silly internet forum, and you can call the threat referencing 9/11 silly all you want. It’s meaningless chatter. Knock yourselves out.

  72. So now the theaters who were going to show the 2004 movie “Team America” (a cartoon!) have been told by Paramount that they can not show the movie. What a bunch of cowards! IMO

  73. Why should a 10 year old movie get dragged into this? I don’t blame Paramount for saying “Hey, we didn’t produce the Seth Rogen movie, and we didn’t cancel it. This ain’t our fight.”

  74. So…someone in Canada decided to file an application to bring HuffPost Live onto cable TV here. Webcam shows should just stay online.
    http://blog.fagstein.com/2014/12/18/crtc-application-would-see-huffpost-live-channel-on-cable-tv/

  75. savefarris Says:

    This ain’t our fight.

    They make movies. It’s their fight. It’s all our fight.

    Of course, this isn’t the first time that Paramount has bowed to pressure.

    I don’t want to hear one more ***-da*n word about the “courage, sacrifice, fearlessness, and bravery” of artists, filmmakers and such. You think you’re brave? STAND AND FIGHT!

  76. Y’all are so big and tough demanding that private businesses jeopardize themselves and their customers. You’re just like the Super Patriots in Washington who rattle their sabers, then send someone else’s kids off to war. Yeah, buncha bad@sses.

  77. “So…someone in Canada decided to file an application to bring HuffPost Live onto cable TV here. Webcam shows should just stay online.”

    ^^It’s just more fragmentation of the cable news market. If it was a right wing channel I doubt you’d be as upset.

  78. ” It’s all our fight.”

    Flipping around the different channels/shows and reading various quotes; from FNC to Chris Matthews to Hollywood actors, I still haven’t heard anyone defending the pulling of the movie.

    Everyone is in agreement that there’s no credible terroristic threat and the idea being floated that there is one is preposterous.

    Sony and the theatre companies are on an island all their own. Because they’re scared. Scared of someone hacking and revealing their secrets.

    This is an embarrassing episode for this country. Some jacka$$es in North Korea are dictating to us now.

  79. Even Al Sharpton isn’t happy:

    Sharpton also said he addressed the “serious and dangerous precedent” set by Sony’s decision to pull The Interview from theaters following terror threats from the North Korean-related hackers who previously leaked the emails in question.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/sharpton-speaks-to-press-after-pointed-and-blunt-meeting-with-sonys-amy-pascal/

  80. “Even Al Sharpton isn’t happy:”

    Do you know of ANYONE defending the decision?

  81. Maybe Sony should offer a Hollywood-style hoopla premier screening of their flick with Kim Jong-un as the guest of honour. Have him meet the actors and everybody make nice. Hire typical American Dennis Rodman to make the deal.

  82. Fritz, I find it somewhat amusing why anyone thinks it’s a great idea to bring a webcast to TV. The market is shrinking which is why everyone on TV is jumping to online streaming and bandwidth complaints by cable provider. And of course, the production value just doesn’t work with TV.
    If someone suggested bringing WSJ Live to TV, I would find it to be a terrible idea too. I would be a bit offended if you think I’m a crazed Hannity/Megyn Kelly/FNC worshipper. I do lean a bit to the right but you have to give me a bit of credit.🙂

  83. savefarris Says:

    Too soon to make this North Korea brouhaha an issue for 2016?

    Never!

  84. add Jon Stewart to the list of people not defending Sony. Still no sane rational people defending. don’t remember many issues where there was virtually a hundred percent agreement

  85. I couldn’t care less how many people not involved in the consequences think they know what Sony should do. Sony is the one who knows what’s in those emails; Sony is the one who has to deal with the nightmare if a theater is attacked.

    Also, this.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-hack-george-clooney-attacks-759441?utm_source=twitter

  86. The hackers have made both demands and threats. The demand that Sony halt the release of its upcoming comedy The Interview, a satirical film about North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un. Their threats vary from personal—you better behave wisely—to threatening physical harm—not only you but your family is in danger. North Korea has not claimed credit for the attack but has praised the act, calling it a righteous deed and promising merciless measures if the film is released. Meanwhile the hackers insist in their statement that what they’ve done so far is only a small part of our further plan. This is not just an attack on Sony. It involves every studio, every network, every business and every individual in this country. That is why we fully support Sony’s decision not to submit to these hackers’ demands. We know that to give in to these criminals now will open the door for any group that would threaten freedom of expression, privacy and personal liberty. We hope these hackers are brought to justice but until they are, we will not stand in fear. We will stand together.

    Clooney and Lourd sent it to “basically the heads of every place” but they couldn’t find anyone to sign it as the hackers had created a climate of fear.

  87. N. Korea just made a stupid mistake. They’re still threatening to release more emails if Sony doesn’t do this or that, which means Sony has nothing to lose by telling them to screw off. The movie will be on the internet within months.

  88. add Jon Stewart to the list of people not defending Sony.

    Add Jon Stewart to the list of people that defended Viacom when they censored Mohammed out of South Park.

  89. Well, Jon Stewart is a punk in general.

  90. We’re all looking forward to Stephen Colbert’s triumphant return on CBS, right? I’m sure that his niche audience on Comedy Central will be quite impressive on a network.

  91. Pretty amazing that’s who they chose. Like you said, niche audience. Never hosted a talk show when not in character. And, he’s seen as a partisan. Between that decision at CBS and NBC wanting Jon Stewart then settling for MSNBC 2.0; it makes you wonder just how bright you have to be to run those two places.

  92. “it makes you wonder just how bright you have to be to run those two places.”

    ^^Well, since you asked, in the case of CBS, obviously pretty bright.

  93. The in fighting between Rubio and Rand Paul over Cuba needs to stop. They’re embarrassing themselves and the Republican Party.

    It’s a given that when two prominent Republicans disagree, they’ll get media attention (versus Democrats like the Obama/Menendez). But they’re feeding it by fighting instead of debating. Have a strong debate, but keep it OVERLY respectful (ie: make it hard for the media to hype), and stop giving the media such a big target.

  94. In which Scarborough loses his mind. Megyn was on a late night talk show, not her FNC gig, and she looked fabulous. Get a grip, congressman.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scarborough-mocks-megyn-kellys-outfit/

  95. savefarris Says:

    So yeah, this is why it’s a bad idea to have Al Sharpton on your network.

  96. I’ve been watching all the coverage of the movie distributers, companies like Google (through You Tube) or Netflix and Sony not showing, ‘The Interview’ with some consternation.

    What I find distressing is the obvious hypocrisy of hosts and guests on all the big three networks and cable news nets (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, MSNBC, FNC and CNN) raging on about others not showing the movie when their own networks are in the same boat. There is no reason any of these companies couldn’t show ‘The Interview’ on there networks and get huge ratings and publicity props in the process.

    None of the shows I’ve watched; and I haven’t seen all so I may have missed someone; ever take their own network to task for not showing the film. Hypocrisy pure and simple.

  97. All the jacKass racial agitators and race pimps got what they wanted. Now cranks like andrew kirell are pretending they have zero responsibility. I was at xmas party yesterday with quite a few Houston police officers. They’re average people. Husbands and fathers. Not the racist monsters CNN portrays them as.

  98. Many of the unarmed victims of police violence are also “average people. Husbands and fathers. Not the racist monsters” you portray them as.

    ^^ “The jacKass racial agitators and race pimps” and the ranting police unions are two sides of the same coin. No side is a winner here.

  99. How do you know that all of those networks are refusing to show the film? Has SONY offered any of them a license? They’re only allowed a few seconds of it for news purposes under “fair use” which I assume they’ve all taken advantage of, but they can’t broadcast the movie simply because they want to.

  100. There is no reason any of these companies couldn’t show ‘The Interview’ on there networks.

    Actually, there are a lot of reasons. It’s called copyright law.

  101. “How do you know that all of those networks are refusing to show the film?”

    ^^I don’t; and if you know of any network that has offered to show the movie name it and I’ll be happy to say you were right. Do you?

    “Has SONY offered any of them a license?”

    ^^Sony has said they are open to any method of showing the movie. They also say no media company; which I assume includes the TV networks, has contacted them about showing the movie. If a network was interested they would, at least, call to inquire to negotiate.

    “Actually, there are a lot of reasons. It’s called copyright law.”

    ^^Really, really silly comment farris. I obviously assumed their would be a contract between Sony and the distributer, whoever that is, that would allow the showing. Sony has said they want the film seen and they just need a partner. FOX could be that partner and make a ton of money in the process; just like NBC ABC or CBS. Jeesh!

    You guys miss my point which was the networks are blaming others for not doing something they themselves refuse to do.

  102. In which Sharyl “they’re all out to get me” Attkisson desperately shoots for a paid Fox Contributor gig by connecting the Sony hack to – wait for it – Benghazi! You go, girl.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sharyl-attkinson-links-obamas-sony-criticism-to-benghazi/

  103. I would imagine police unions are sick of idiots at CNN and politicians and athletes and everybody else they protect accusing them off being racist in order to push an agenda.

  104. “I would imagine police unions are sick of idiots at CNN and politicians and athletes and everybody else they protect accusing them off being racist in order to push an agenda.”

    ^^Police unions are the the police versions of Al Sharpton; and just like Sharpton and his ilk they have an agenda.

  105. I get your point, Fritza, of the network criticisms of Sony, but I don’t think yours is a fair point… yet. I don’t know whether any have offered to air it nor do you know that any haven’t. I doubt any hosts or pundits who appear on these networks would be privy to such discussions.

  106. In the overall sense, I agree that our legal system tends toward granting far too much deference to the authority of law enforcement officers. But with most specific incidents that have been in the news recently, I don’t believe any of us can know what happened with any reasonable degree of clarity. If our goal is to reach a just conclusion, then each individual incident must be measured by its own set of facts and the ills of society are not the fault of any individual police officer.

    The officer’s act that took the life of Mr. Garner in NYC is an entirely different situation. The video is plenty to convince me that the cop overstepped his authority. What it doesn’t tell me is whether the charge against him should be “excessive use of force” or a more serious criminal aggravated assault charge. Sitting as a juror in his criminal trial they’d have to convince me of his guilt, but as a grand juror for his arraignment someone would have to show me a law that says you can’t charge a cop for this.

  107. Pirro just did a show on FNC where she and her guests blamed Obama and Holder for the incident in Brooklyn because they are anti-cop by the comments they have made.

    I’m sorry but she and her guests are wrong.

    Could you imagine if we held all politicians to the same standard for what they say as Pirro and her guests are of Obama and Holder?

    Would it be ok to blame FNC and Hannity if something bad had happened at the Bundy Ranch?

  108. “Would it be ok to blame FNC and Hannity if something bad had happened at the Bundy Ranch?”

    ^^No that would be Obama’s fault as well.🙂

  109. “I doubt any hosts or pundits who appear on these networks would be privy to such discussions.”

    ^^I don’t know; but it’s passing strange that everyone on the TV networks seems OK with trashing Netflix, Google theater owners and every other possibly place to see the movie for not showing it – except the TV networks. If there were discussions, I’m pretty sure TV networks would be only too happy to play the hero; and get richly rewarded as well. We’ll see soon enough.

  110. savefarris Says:

    Could you imagine if we held all politicians to the same standard for what they say as Pirro and her guests are of Obama and Holder?

    You’re so right.

  111. savefarris Says:

    Could you imagine if we held all politicians to the same standard for what they say as Pirro and her guests are of Obama and Holder?

    I mean, that never happened before Obama became President.

  112. There you have a good point. Netflix can’t run the film without Sony’s say-so, either. Many theatres did decide against showing it, however.

  113. savefarris Says:

    Could you imagine if we held all politicians to the same standard for what they say as Pirro and her guests are of Obama and Holder?

    Never

  114. “Netflix can’t run the film without Sony’s say-so, ”

    ^^There are no heroes here Al. Theatre chains are cowardly for not showing the movie. Netflix and other non theatre distributers are even more cowardly because they won’t even say they won’t show the film to avoid bad publicity. TV networks are the most cowardly IMO because they won’t show the movie; won’t say they won’t show the movie and add the hypocrisy of attacking others for doing what they won’t admit they are doing themselves. Shameful.

  115. savefarris Says:

    Could you imagine if we held all politicians to the same standard for what they say as Pirro and her guests are of Obama and Holder?

    Still can’t imagine it.

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