Free for All: 02/20/15

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  1. Carol Costello asks Sally Kohn how damaging Guiliani’s comments about Obama can be for the upcoming presidential campaign. And, Sally says “massive”.

    Hah. This story will be over by Monday. Dumb question. Stupid answer.

  2. “Hah. This story will be over by Monday. Dumb question. Stupid answer.”

    ^^Totally agree LS. Giuliani has sunk along way since he was a serious candidate for POTUS in 2008. Now he can only be put in the Donald Trump/Sarah Palin camp of self promoting fools who make a living saying outrageous and silly things. And like with Trump and Palin no one cares what he has to say anymore.

  3. I’ve seen that comparison on the interwebs but it’s silly to compare him to Palin & Trump.

    However, without getting into the merits of what he said, for Costello to hope and Kohn to assure, that this will be a story in a year or two is dumb. But hey, it’s Carol Costello we’re talking about!

  4. BTW, fritz, I like how you used the political trick of saying “I agree with you” to talk about something I didn’t say.

    That’s talent! 🙂

  5. “I like how you used the political trick of saying “I agree with you” to talk about something I didn’t say.”

    ^^I agreed with your conclusion. The rest is just my opinion.

    “However, without getting into the merits of what he said,”

    ^^What exactly are the merits of what he said? The only one I see is it got him some face time on FNC which was, I assume, his goal in the first place. The problem is it makes him sound like Trump or Palin which is fine if your on F&F but not so good if Megyn Kelly is tearing you a new one.

    “That’s talent!”

    ^^Yes it is.😉

  6. I thought Megyn Kelly did a very solid job challenging Giuliani last night on his claim. It was a real challenge and not one of those, “Some people say…” softball type challenges where it’s essentially teed up for the person to hit out of the park.

    Yes, she has a lot of faults but few people in cable news have the ability to do what she did last night. Serious, sober, challenging. If she did more of this I think her critics would have no ground to stand on.

    As to the coverage of the story: (1) It’s always fascinating to see what stories the media people are outraged over; this is like a Rohrschach test for them: how they respond tells us a lot about their views; (2) it’s equally fascinating watching how they go to every Republican anywhere in America – school board members, county commissioners, dog catchers – and make them denounce the charge. It’s called making news not reporting it.

    As to the substance: I have no doubt about Barack Obama’s patriotism; but I do think his love for America is quite different than that of most Americans. It’s a liberal/left love of America – a critical affection and not blind affection. It’s different. Real but different.

    I do think Giuliani had one fair point: Obama’s intellectual development was largely among leftist/leftwing people. There is an extreme dislike for American among that group. Obama was immersed in it and there’s little evidence that he found their views of America distasteful or even unfair. That, for me, is troubling.

  7. “I know how it is to be a product of poverty, and I cannot accept that poverty leads to terrorism. Poverty must lead to a seek to knowledge, to sciences, to be better, to climb on the social ladder… It’s about investing in yourself, first of all, and by doing that, you invest in society. And that’s the message I try to give to these people, yes, indeed. I’m not only a mayor of a city, but I’m also Muslim and that gives me maybe the additional authority to say these things that maybe other colleagues of mine in Europe and maybe in the U.S. are not maybe authorized to say.”

    Great quote from a Muslim mayor. This should bemused to push back against those idiots at the State Dept. and the WH.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dutch-muslim-mayor-to-other-muslims-accept-western-values-or-go-back-home/

  8. Well, a mayor can say things the president cannot, right?

    It’s obvious to me what the Administration is doing. They know that these extremists have an Islamic basis for what they do. But removing or not admitting that cause diminishes them. Islamic extremism minus the Islamic nature is just extremism.

    Whether they can pull this rhetorical slight-of-hand off is another question.

  9. “It’s a liberal/left love of America – a critical affection and not blind affection.”

    ^^That’s true; and IMO the best way to love the country. Thank God most Americans have “a critical affection and not blind affection.” “Blind affection”, like that of RG is dangerous and crazy.

    “I do think Giuliani had one fair point: Obama’s intellectual development was largely among leftist/leftwing people. There is an extreme dislike for American among that group. Obama was immersed in it and there’s little evidence that he found their views of America distasteful or even unfair. That, for me, is troubling.”

    ^^Come on Erich, there is no evidence that “leftist/leftwing people” “as a group” have “an extreme dislike for America”. They may not like some things the government says or does but that is no different than most of those ‘rightist/rightwing people’ who feel the same thing on the other side.

    There are kooks and crazies on both sides but most Americans, right and left, love the country; if not the government in power, or its policies, at the time.

  10. If you are in a good relationship with someone do you want to “fundamentally transform” them? Obama wanted to “fundamentally transform” our country. I do not call that loving our country.

  11. “There are kooks and crazies on both sides but most Americans, right and left, love the country;”

    Well, there’s only one side who continually blames America for all the worlds problems. There’s only one side with a crap ton of members who are anti-military. How many schools and universities have you seen ban the military? Any of them conservative.

    An overriding view in liberal circles is that America is a deeply flawed, racist nation. If it weren’t for us, terrorism wouldn’t exist. Afterall, it’s our foreign policy that causes terrorists to burn people alive.

    What erich put forth was correct. I’d add that many liberals aspire to love this country as long as they can fundamentally transform it to their liking.

  12. If I may paraphrase “The Newsroom”…

    “What exactly does Obama love about America? Yosemite?”

    Her certainly doesn’t love it’s laws, it’s founders, it’s history, it’s freedoms. Not to mention he exhibits outright hostility to over half the population.

  13. It’s hard to have a civilized discussion with people (Erich, LS, farris) who think you and many tens of millions of others don’t love their country (only the right loves it in the correct way – whatever that is) because they are liberals so I’ll just move on to other topics.

  14. fritz: not “only the right”. But to pretend there isn’t a strain of anti-Americanism in liberal circles is ridiculous. There’s also a fairly large strain of anti-military sentiment in liberal circles too. It won’t take you 3 seconds to find hundreds of examples.

    But, I don’t think anyone is suggesting “only the right loves it in the correct way”.

    I don’t like the Clinton’s but I don’t get that sentiment from them. Same goes for most Dem members of Congress.

  15. For the 2nd time in 3 years, Politifact’s “Lie of the Year” has been rendered inert less than 2 months into it’s “reign”:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/02/19/limited-airborne-transmission-of-ebola-is-likely-new-study-says/

  16. MSNBC is really, really, really good at editing to make things fit their narrative.

    http://twitchy.com/2015/01/09/did-flame-fanner-chris-hayes-air-a-video-showing-extensive-damage-from-the-naacpbombing-pics-video/

    Hey, at least they’re successful at something.

  17. So, not only did MSNBC pull a picture from another country to pretend it was the NAACP building…but, the pipe bomb wasn’t targeting the NAACP, it was targeting some poor schmuck accountant. So sad when narratives don’t pan out. I guess they can stop the “hate crime” investigation now. And, MSNBC will have to move onto some other imagined faux racism story.

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/77c050617bc74a6192471a4492807042/man-arrested-bombing-near-colorado-naacp-office

  18. savefarris Says:

    MSNBC is really, really, really good at editing to make things fit their narrative.

    Brian Ross approves!

  19. Ha, true. At least they didn’t blame the bombing on a random tea partier.

  20. It’s so sad what has happened to Giuliani.
    Again he’s on FNC pushing the narrative that Obama does not love this country.

  21. It seems to me there is basic misunderstanding of the difference between criticizing your church, your local NFL team or your country and disparagement or condemnation.

  22. FNC is in full defend Giuliani mode using an old clip of Obama campaigning in 08 calling Bush unpatriotic over debt which Ed Henry asked Josh Earnest if Obama is going to apologize for.

    The comparison of Obama’s comment about bush Bush to Giuliani saying Obama does not love this country is laughable.

    FNC would rather defend a former republican Mayor than defend our President because he’s a democrat.

  23. Why is it laughable?

  24. What’s laughable is that the MSM is in overdrive regarding Guiliani. A person who hasn’t held office in almost 15 years. Anytime the MSM gets their feelings hurt, they go overboard. The Guiliani stuff is a great example. The media look ridiculous as they never show this level (or any level) of outrage when Dems say something questionable.

    And, in a sad turn of events for the media, the O’Reilly nothingburger of a story is likely over. Mother Jones will continue to be a swampland. O’Reilly will continue to be the king of cable news.

    Brian Stelter hardest hit. His life’s dream has been crushed.

  25. Two answer both comments,

    Giuliani talked to a CNN reporter, The NY Post and was on Hannity Friday.
    If he keeps talking about Obama not loving this country the media is going to keep talking about it.

    If people want this story to go away have FNC stop defending Giuliani using Obama’s 2008 bush debt is unpatriotic comment

    Obama said Bush’s action was unpatriotic. Obama never said Bush did not like this country.

  26. So, if someone said Obama refusing to use the words “radical islam” is unpatriotic – that’d be cool? The media wouldn’t be in a frenzy? I don’t think so.

    Nicki Haley – who isn’t running for anything – was asked to comment on Guiliani’s remarks. This is how the MSM operates. Biden says something offensive on a monthly basis and no one is ever asked to rebuke him. It’s a MSM game against republicans.

  27. Additionally, the Guiliani story gives them an excuse not to talk about the Clinton Foundation story.

    @ ice
    So you think FNC pointing out a similar comment by Pres Obama (that was ignored by much of the MSM), is what’s driving the story for all of the national media? Really? Wow… you think FNC is really powerful.

  28. No, Giuliani continuing to talk about Obama not loving this country is what is ultimately keeping this story going.

    I’m just saying those who want the story to totally go away also need FNC to stop trying to defend Giuliani by deflecting to Obama’s comment.

  29. The militias that have prepared to overthrow the government have traditionally been far-right, but does that mean those on the right hate America?

  30. “If Republicans are to win the White House, conservatives will have to take this advice: Learn to adapt and overcome—not complain about media bias.”
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/21/scott-walker-s-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-answer.html

  31. If you watched the coverage of the DHS report on FNC you were supposed to be outraged that the DHS believes far-right groups are more important than ISIS as a domestic terror threat.

    Of course I’m concerned about ISIS coming here however I’d say people in the USA who don’t believe in the federal government should be a concern.
    Remember the armed militias that showed up to the Bundy ranch?

  32. “Learn to adapt and overcome—not complain about media bias.”

    ^^It’s not a fatal move for Walker’s campaign but it will give possible establishment supporters thoughts that he may not be ready for PT. It is also good news for other Midwest Governor POTUS wannabes like Pence and especially, my guy ,Kasich.

    It’s one thing for clowns, like Trump and Giuliani or even no chance candidates like Jindal, to get on the crazy train; it’s totally different thing for a serious candidate, like Walker, to sound like Sarah Palin on a SNL skit.

  33. I’m worried about people who follow the SPLC and subsequently try to kill people they disagree with.

  34. DAYTONA 500 recap: Mark Martin was robbed in 2007.

  35. Good race. As always, I wanted Jr. I’m okay with Logano. Glad no Californians won.

  36. savefarris Says:

    Flashback: During a 2008 debate, Candidate Obama told Charles Gibson he’d rather see the country suffer by taking in less revenue if it meant being “fair” to the “right” people.

    But don’t you dare question his patriotism!!!

  37. I know you are trying desperately to make a point but misquoting what Obama actually said (he didn’t say the country would suffer – you did) to infer he’s unpatriotic is just ridiculous.🙂

  38. savefarris Says:

    He said he would choose to deliberately bring in less revenue. That would indeed hurt the country and it’s bottom line.

    That’s the very definition of unpatriotic: putting your petty grievances above what’s in the best interest of the country.

  39. “He said he would choose to deliberately bring in less revenue. That would indeed hurt the country and it’s bottom line.”

    ^^LOL! That’s not what he said. It’s what you infer he said. He said it might or it might not lower tax revenue. And I thought you were in favor of less taxes (revenue)?

    “That’s the very definition of unpatriotic: putting your petty grievances above what’s in the best interest of the country.”

    ^^It’s not my petty grievances, whatever that means, it’s about fair taxation and that is in the best interest of the country.

  40. Fritz: Again, I said this:
    “It’s a liberal/left love of America – a critical affection and not blind affection. It’s different. Real but different.”

    Real but different.

    I never questioned the love of all or even most liberals for America but simply that it was a different type of love or devotion.

    How could you then claim I said the opposite? The words are clear.

    As to Obama: His intellectual development, so to speak, was among leftwing people who disliked America. Davis, Wright, Ayers et al. I am differentiating between those on the liberal/left who like/love America and those on the more leftwing spectrum that Obama associated with who did not.

    There is a segment of the left – just as there is a segment on the right in a different way (Ron Paul for example) – who do not like America. Not everyone on the left NOR everyone on the right hates America. But there is a group among both sides.

    Your characterization of what I said is 100% wrong.

  41. And just to clarify further: by “the left” here I meant the far left, e.g., Marxists types.

    It’s a fringe element on the left just as the Paul supporters are a fringe element on the right.

  42. We, on the right, don’t claim Ron Paul! And, he’s from Texas. Double embarrassment to me. 🙂

    He’s basically a cult leader. He has a small number of highly devoted, devotees.

  43. He said it might or it might not lower tax revenue.

    Right after Charles Gibson detailed proof that it WOULD lower tax revenue.

    Guess that makes Obama a mathematics denier!

  44. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/comcast-accused-of-paying-off-al-sharpton-in-20-billion-racial-discrimination-lawsuit/

    So, it’s not exactly news that Sharpton is a shakedown artist. But, you have to wonder, exactly how he has become such a frequent visitor and close advisor to the WH. Does he have something on POTUS. Is there anybody in media willing to investigate?

  45. MSNBC’s graphics have been altered significantly.

  46. Congrats, Andy. You just got me to switch from CNN to MSNBC. Albeit, very, very briefly!

  47. I don’t like it. It’s a lot like CNN’s new graphics, except worse. And they still have that bar across the top of the screen.

  48. “Is there anybody in media willing to investigate?”

    ^^LOL! You’re joking; right? The right wing media, including your beloved FNC, and Congressional Committees go nuts over the slightest rumor of wrongdoing by the POTUS or Sharpton. If their was even a tiny hint there might be a rumor of a possible potential slight scandal between Obama and Sharpton the right wing press and blogs and the far right clowns in Congress would be screaming and tearing their hair out demanding Obama be impeached and Sharpton be fired. Heck they may do that anyway just because it’s Monday and they haven’t launched an investigation against Obama yet this week.🙂

  49. If no more damaging news 2day, will Bill O’Reilly be unwise 2 even mention it 2nite on The Factor? I vote YES. #LetItGo

  50. Well, I don’t notice the graphics stuff as much as many of you do but from what I see, I like the look of the new MSNBC graphics.

  51. “^^LOL! You’re joking; right? The right wing media, including your beloved FNC, …”

    As I’ve stated numerous times, I watch more CNN than any other network. I watch CNN pretty much all day and switch to FNC for BOR and Megyn.

    Anyhoo…can you honestly think of any other reason why the WH would let Al freaking Sharpton within 1000 yards of the White House? I highly doubt it’s simply because POTUS truly values his opinion…on anything. He’s a con artist. He’s a shakedown artist. Nothing more. I’m sure the WH knows this.

  52. “If no more damaging news 2day, will Bill O’Reilly be unwise 2 even mention it 2nite on The Factor? I vote YES. #LetItGo”

    Well, Brian Stelter had zero activity (that I’ve seen) on twitter today. So, I can only assume he’s busy combing through every word BOR has ever spoken. If there is anything more to the story, we’ll know soon enough.

    Regardless, BOR isn’t going anywhere. This will do nothing to damage his reputation. The far-left and the MSM will continue to hate him for not being one of them. The lefty wet-dream of bringing him down just ain’t gonna happen. As, Johnny$ would say, “sorry, haters”. 🙂

  53. Billo’s only problem is with CBS. It’s their reporters and technicians he called liars and cowards. If the CBS personnel don’t want to take him on (and he doesn’t pour more fuel on the fire by attacking them again tonight) then your right the story may die out. MSNBC has pretty much not covered it today, so far, so it’s in Bill’s interest to let the story go. Do I think he will? No, it’s not in his DNA.

    “The lefty wet-dream of bringing him down just ain’t gonna happen.”

    ^^There may be some out their that hate Bill. I don’t; anymore than you hate Maddow. It’s really hard to take you seriously when your basic argument is whomever doesn’t agree with you is they’re a “hater”. It’s juvenile.

  54. It is curious MSNBC hasn’t covered it. Has to have come from the top. I wonder why?

    I don’t hate Maddow. But, I’m not longer a fan. And, I wouldn’t want to see her lose her job unless she killed somebody or something. I hope Brian Williams is able to make a come back of some sort.

    But, for you to pretend that there isn’t an irrational visceral hate out there for FNC (and O’Reilly in particular) amongst liberals is silly.

    It has been a loud and communicated dream of liberals to bring down FNC. The President of the United States and his administration tried to start a war with Fox. It’s crazy.

  55. And how is quoting J$ saying “sorry, haters” more juvenile than, say, this:

    “If their was even a tiny hint there might be a rumor of a possible potential slight scandal between Obama and Sharpton the right wing press and blogs and the far right clowns in Congress would be screaming and tearing their hair out demanding Obama be impeached and Sharpton be fired. Heck they may do that anyway just because it’s Monday and they haven’t launched an investigation against Obama yet this week.”

  56. A former FNC reporter tweeted about BOR and shared a link to Media Matters. Not the only ex-FNCer though.

  57. “But, for you to pretend that there isn’t an irrational visceral hate out there for FNC (and O’Reilly in particular) amongst liberals is silly.”

    ^^That may be the case over at $’s place I don’t know or care. But here it’s moderated and most comments are pretty rational and calling people names says a lot more about you than those you call “FNC haters” or “O’Reilly haters”. It means you don’t have a logical, rational or even humorous argument to make and you want to call people names. It just ends the conversation.

  58. ““It’s a liberal/left love of America – a critical affection and not blind affection. It’s different. Real but different.”

    “Your characterization of what I said is 100% wrong.”

    ^^I agreed with you about:
    “It’s a liberal/left love of America – a critical affection and not blind affection. It’s different. Real but different.”

    ^^I said in reply:
    That’s true; and IMO the best way to love the country. Thank God most Americans have “a critical affection and not blind affection.”

    “I never questioned the love of all or even most liberals for America but simply that it was a different type of love or devotion.”

    I thought you did when you said:
    “I do think Giuliani had one fair point: Obama’s intellectual development was largely among leftist/leftwing people. There is an extreme dislike for American among that group.

    My answer was:
    ^^Come on Erich, there is no evidence that “leftist/leftwing people” “as a group” have “an extreme dislike for America”. They may not like some things the government says or does but that is no different than most of those ‘rightist/rightwing people’ who feel the same thing on the other side.”

    “There are kooks and crazies on both sides but most Americans, right and left, love the country; if not the government in power, or its policies, at the time.”

    ^^You choose three names from Obamas past and make it seem they were the main, if not only, influence on his “intellectual development”. You don’t know that or even if they had any influence on that development. I would expect there are hundreds of people who had just as much and more of an effect on his “intellectual development” than the three you mention. Many of them conservative.

    “There is a segment of the left – just as there is a segment on the right in a different way (Ron Paul for example) – who do not like America.”

    ^^I also don’t agree that Ron Paul dislikes America. He wants to change how the country is run and many of its governments policies; but that only means he has different views on the subject – not that he dislikes the country. If we start to label people who don’t agree with our view the current government, or its policies and think they dislike the country then nearly everyone would fall into that category for some of us, depending on our political ideology.

    The vast majority of Americans, of all persuasions, love this country. They can dislike its politicians, its government’s policies, its climate, its sports teams, and hundreds of other things but they still love the country.

  59. “And how is quoting J$ saying “sorry, haters” more juvenile than, say, this:

    “If their was even a tiny hint there might be a rumor of a possible potential slight scandal between Obama and Sharpton the right wing press and blogs and the far right clowns in Congress would be screaming and tearing their hair out demanding Obama be impeached and Sharpton be fired. Heck they may do that anyway just because it’s Monday and they haven’t launched an investigation against Obama yet this week.”

    ^^Well I was just answering your question:
    “Is there anybody in media willing to investigate?”
    humorously but accurately.

    Instead of pointing out where my reply was wrong you answer is to ask how my reply is different than J$ saying “sorry haters”. Well for a start I didn’t call you a hater as that would be juvenile.

  60. Jeez, fritz. Simmer down. It was a light hearted comment. Hence the cutesy little smiley face. I wasn’t trying to offend you. And, I wasn’t being rude. You’re a good dude. I wouldn’t be overly rude to you…unless you really, really, really deserved it.

  61. Well, if you’re a loser like me and have some time to kill, this interview of David Corn by Hugh Hewitt is pretty entertaining.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/hugh-hewitt-grills-the-hell-out-of-mother-jones-david-corn-on-oreilly/

    I never thought I’d feel bad for David Corn but I’m starting to. Poor guy set out to destroy O’Reilly and just ended up looking like a clown – and in this interview like a toddler. What a baby.

  62. savefarris Says:

    It is curious MSNBC hasn’t covered it. Has to have come from the top. I wonder why?

    Could it be that they … did their due journalistic diligence and figured out Corn was off the reservation on this one? It’s not like Corn is too far left for them: he’s been on Hardball numerous times.

  63. “It is curious MSNBC hasn’t covered it. Has to have come from the top. I wonder why?”

    ^^At the moment this is a dispute between O’Reilly and some of his former CBS coworkers. The Mother Jones allegations are not really a big part of story anymore. IMO it’s smart for MSNBC to stay out of the way for now. Why let Billo change the subject by reporting on the story (and poking a stick in his eye) and making MSNBC a big part of the story.

    Lets see how the story plays out and who is telling the truth; CBS or O’Reilly. At the moment media reporters are checking the facts (which are in dispute) and I imagine within a few days we will know what really happened.

  64. “Could it be that they … did their due journalistic diligence and figured out Corn was off the reservation on this one? ”

    No chance. When has that journalistic integrity ever stopped them? CNN has more journalistic integrity in their worst day than MSNBC has in their best…and, CNN heavily covered the story.

    Anyway, orders had to come from the top. Maddow routinely uses small town mayors nobody has ever heard of to smear an entire party. She’s got almost zero journalistic credibility. And she’s supposedly the face of the network.

    Anyway, there’s a reason. But, “journalistic integriy” ain’t it.

  65. “Lets see how the story plays out and who is telling the truth;”

    It’s played out. It was a political hit job. David Corn and Brian Stelter were the big losers. O’Reilly was the winner.

  66. “It’s played out. It was a political hit job. David Corn and Brian Stelter were the big losers. O’Reilly was the winner.”

    ^^Well that’s your opinion. Others will beg to differ. We’ll see soon enough.

  67. “CNN has more journalistic integrity in their worst day than MSNBC has in their best…and, CNN heavily covered the story.”

    ^^And it just drives you crazy that you can’t figure out why MSNBC is not covering the story.🙂

  68. It’s not my opinion. I’ve seen the video from the riots. I’ve read others calling it a battle zone. I saw the regional head of NBC News at the time back up O’Reilly’s account. Corn’s charge that this is O’Reilly’s “Brian Williams Moment” just doesn’t hold water.

    There’s evidence out there (that supports BOR) that can’t be changed without the use of a time machine. Therefore, there’s no additional evidence that could harm him – because we’ve seen the on-site reports from that time. Additional evidence could only help him.

    This is one of those stories that will live on (forever) in the left-wing osphere; like Joe Scarborough being a murderer or George W. Bush being a war criminal. It will simply be a baseless accusation based on ideological hate.

  69. Regarding MSNBC not covering it – It doesn’t drive me crazy, I’m simply dumbfounded. It’s a made for MSNBC faux scandal.

  70. Let’s see if people outraged at O’Reilly get 1/10th as outraged at this:

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/va-secretary-apologizes-for-falsely-claiming-he-served-in-special-forces/

  71. “It’s not my opinion. I’ve seen the video from the riots.”

    ^^No It’s just your opinion. The story still has a way to go; although you may be right in the end.

    I think (my opinion) the final result will be somewhere in the mushy middle; There was some violence but a lot of Billo’s tale is embellished. Well see.

    “This is one of those stories that will live on (forever) in the left-wing osphere; like Joe Scarborough being a murderer or George W. Bush being a war criminal.”

    ^^ Or, in the right wing blogosphere, like Obama being a Communist, Muslim or born in Kenya.

    “It will simply be a baseless accusation based on ideological hate.”

    ^^I’m just balancing your examples as I know you wouldn’t want them to appear to be based on ideological hate.😉

  72. savefarris Says:

    In other news, nothing ever changes. Water is Wet. The Sun rises in the East. Keith Olbermann is suspended.

    http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/2/24/8103171/keith-olbermann-penn-state-twitter-espn

  73. The things liberals can get away with simply because their like minded allies in the press are there not to serve but protect.

  74. Oops forgot the link:

  75. lemme try this link:

    twitter.com/TheFix/status/570312140567003136

  76. savefarris Says:

    VetoXL: Obama vetoes the Keystone Pipeline on the same day that the Fed Chair announced they wouldn’t be raising interest rates for the upcoming year. i.e. they have no confidence in the economic “recovery”.

    Coincidence?!?

  77. Sheriff David Clarke was back on FNC again to complain about Obama and Holder.
    He does more divisive complaining about Obama and Holder than Obama or Holder have ever commented about law enforcement.

  78. For those saying it’s the MSM that keeps the Giuiani story going.
    Hannity Tonight “Rep. Darrell Issa and Gov. Bobby Jindal defend Rudy Giuliani’s comments.”

  79. I’ve never heard of David Clark. Would maybe recognize him if I saw him?

  80. savefarris Says:

    This just in: the media is completely and totally un-biased. Straight down the middle, folks!

    http://politicalwire.com/2015/02/24/walker-has-not-communicated-with-god/

  81. savefarris Says:

    Rachel Maddow pretending that Obama has never vetoed anything before, all in order to compare him to Mayweather/Pacquio.

  82. savefarris Says:

    Rachel tries to poke the bear by comparing O’Reilly to Hillary, Brian Williams, John Walsh, and Sec. McDonald.

  83. “For those saying it’s the MSM that keeps the Giuiani story going.
    Hannity Tonight “Rep. Darrell Issa and Gov. Bobby Jindal defend Rudy Giuliani’s comments.””

    Punching back against MSM bias isn’t “keeping the story going”. It’s fighting back. To remain silent would be letting them getting away with being advocates instead of journalists/reporters.

    The stories I saw on CNN today and elsewhere suggesting Walker is flailing were nothing other than wishful thinking. If he refuses to play the media game, he’ll win in the long run.

  84. So, verdict is in the Chris Kyle murder. Who will be the first prominent lefty on twitter or elsewhere to say something stupid? Moore & Maher would obviously be the favorites. But, who knows?

  85. LS: did you watch the coverage on CNN? Lots of subtle digging at the jury for not taking enough time to come to a verdict. Same thing happened this morning in the first segment on New Day. On New Day in their first segment Cuomo and his 2 legal guests never even mentioned that Routh admitted his guilt, said he knew it was wrong, that he stole Kyle’s truck and phone because he did not want to get caught, etc. The only talk was about that Routh was mentally ill and what was wrong with the jury that they came to a decision so quick.

    IMO truly disgusting.

  86. LS: David Clark is the black Sheriff of Milwaukee County. He is famous around here for telling citizens to arm themselves especially in the City of Milwaukee where black on black crime is huge. This past summer three children were killed in drive-by shootings. One little black girl was killed was while she was sitting on her grandfather’s lap on his porch. Another Asian child was killed. This child was only at this house in the living room for 15 minutes before he was shot in a drive-by. A third girl, a black child, was shot while playing in a park. Clark ran as a Democrat for Sheriff and Michael Bloomberg contributed $150,000 in the campaign against him. The current county executive used, I believe, $400,000 of his own money to try to defeat him. Republicans crossed party lines to vote him in as Sheriff.

    Just as an aside, the City of Milwaukee has police officers on furlough because they say they don’t have enough $, but the County Board just passed a $124M project to build a 2.5 mile circular trolley that will add tracks and overhead electrical wires to the city. You just can’t make this stuff up!

  87. I had the CNN coverage on as background noise but wasn’t paying attention, Pam.

    Thanks for the explanation on David Clark. I see why he’s not liked by the folks who don’t like FNC.

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