The False Equivalency False Narrative…

FTVLive is reporting that Rachel Maddow is pissed at Chuck Todd…

Sources tell FTVLive that MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow is “apoplectic over” Chuck Todd’s moral equivalence of Fox News and MSNBC prime time.

Todd was on The Mike O’Meara show, when he said, “I think advocacy journalism, sort of the Fox and what MSNBC primetime, those models, that hasn’t been healthy for politics. It’s just not healthy for it. It all goes to one of the explanations why we don’t persuade people anymore.”

Word is that MSNBC staffers are pissed at Todd’s takedown of cable news and no one is more mad at Mr. Meet The Press than Maddow.

Sources say that Todd is furiously backpedaling and trying to apologize to Maddow… who is having none of it.

Todd shouldn’t be apologizing (if he really is apologizing) because he’s not wrong. The primetime cable news POV ideological broadcasts have absolutely negatively impacted politics. But so has talk radio and the internet.

15 Responses to “The False Equivalency False Narrative…”

  1. What strikes me as funny is that Chuck Todd’s mid-morning show wasn’t that different from the prime-time model he described.

  2. “What strikes me as funny is that Chuck Todd’s mid-morning show wasn’t that different from the prime-time model he described.”

    ^^Todd’s show on MSNBC was pretty much non partisan unless your a FNC devotee where the Weather Channel and the Home Shopping Network are considered lift wing propaganda.

  3. I think it’s silly to pretend that FNC, MSNBC and/or CNN (which he omitted) have negatively affected politics. How could MSNBC affect anyting? They get like 28 viewers. Fox gets a lot more viewers but it’s still a small amount in the grand scheme of things. And, there’s a single “far-right” host in primetime – Sean Hannity. If you people want to bestow some crazy amount of power to him, I’m sure he’d gladly accept it but that’d be silly.

    I can think of many more reasons, that don’t include media, as to why politics have arguably worsened. 1st among those would be politicians.

    We have congresspeople running around calling average Americans “racist” on a daily basis. You have Senate majority leaders going after civilians, from the Senate floor, on a daily basis. Those don’t have anything to do with cable news.

  4. And, the false equivalency from people like Todd who say they get as much heat from the left regarding bias is absurd. If they do get as much heat from the left, then those lefties complaining about the MSM are delusional.

  5. savefarris Says:

    that hasn’t been healthy for politics. It’s just not healthy for it. It all goes to one of the explanations why we don’t persuade people anymore

    I think Chuck is showing his own bit of false equivalence by conflating 2 issues:

    A. The polarization of politics.
    B. The media’s inability to persuade the masses.

    Regarding B. I do think that FNC has definitely contributed. Because it pulled back the curtain on the ‘unbiased’ sham that the MSM had been perpetrating on the country for over 40 years. People no longer believe the MSM because the MSM Is unbelievable. And it’s almost entirely the media’s fault.

    The extreme polarization has less to do with media barking and more to do with the Federalization of Government. It’s become so large and so powerful that the party running it matters more than ever, which is why control of it has turned into a bloodsport. If the Feds didn’t have as much sway over our day to day lives, it’d matter less who was in charge. And you’d have much less fighting about it.

    This is also the answer, by the way, to why money has pervaded politics to the extent that it has. Remove power from the government and you remove people’s motivation to affect the outcome.

  6. Great points regarding the power of government over our daily lives.

  7. danoregon Says:

    I miss the time when someone could just disagree with the other side because they thought there was a better solution to something, rather than because the other side is ‘the spawn of Satan’ or some such.
    The rhetoric has reached Jerry Springer levels on some shows, often coming from purported journalists or informed commentators.

  8. bushleaguer Says:

    Agree that Todd has nothing to apologize over….he was merely stating the obvious. If Rachel Maddow is taking exception to her show being described as “advocacy journalism” then she should watch it sometime. It reminds me of the time that she got angry because the host and a guest were perplexed when she denied being a Democrat.

  9. bushleaguer Says:

    ^
    The host and a guest on Real Time with Bill Maher

  10. bushleaguer<
    I'm sure–no positive– that Maddow never denied being a Democrat.

  11. Ummm…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/23/rachel-maddow-real-time-nick-gillespie_n_1620826.html

    “I’m just trying to say a nice thing, and already, ‘You’re a hack!’” Maddow cried. “Listen, dude, I’m not even a Democrat!”

  12. “It reminds me of the time that she got angry because the host and a guest were perplexed when she denied being a Democrat.”

    “I’m sure–no positive– that Maddow never denied being a Democrat.”

    “Listen, dude, I’m not even a Democrat!”

    ^^I think your confusing being a ‘liberal’ Which Maddow has often said she is with being a member of the Democratic Party – ‘a Democrat’ – which, I’m positive, she isn’t.

  13. A distinction without a difference fritz.
    But I get why you have to do what you do.
    My sympathies.

  14. imnotblue Says:

    That was embarrassing, frtiz.

  15. “That was embarrassing, frtiz.”

    ^^What???

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