The Hazards of LiveTV: #25,133

Ugh…POV analysis run amok

During a Now w/ Alex Wagner conversation about GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz‘s statement that he became a country music fan directly after 9/11, guest Jamilah Lemieux opened up the conversation with this remark: “Nothing says ‘Let’s go kill some Muslims’ like country music, fresh from Lynchburg, Virginia. Someone who obviously does not want to be a polarizing candidate, he wants to bring people together, I mean — really? That’s absurd.”

While co-panelists Joan Walsh and Michael Steele could be heard laughing at Lemieux’s remark, guest-host Melber responded: “Well, I mean there’s plenty of country music that doesn’t have that message, right?”

A few segments later, Melber appeared on-air with an apology: “We have a programming note. A few minutes ago on this show, a guest made a comment about country music. That comment was not appropriate, and we want to be clear this network does not condone it.”

25 Responses to “The Hazards of LiveTV: #25,133”

  1. This was a really stupid thing to say on so many levels. Good to see someone at MSNBC was smart enough to get out an apology within minutes.

    Unfortunately, in this case, it’s not going to make any difference. This is the type of stupid comment that has legs and no apology, no matter how sincere or quick, will stop this comment from becoming the latest outrage for those on the right.

    I expect the right wing blogs and FNC shows like F&F, The Five, Outnumbered feasting on this comment for the next week or so. I would love to be wrong about this, but I don’t think I am.

  2. J$ notes that there was no actual apology. Mediaite took it upon themselves to say MSNBC “apologized” when they didn’t.

  3. “J$ notes that there was no actual apology. Mediaite took it upon themselves to say MSNBC “apologized” when they didn’t.”

    ^^And so it starts.

  4. I don’t care whether MSNBC apologizes or not. That statement is pretty much what I expect to hear at MSNBC. I have no misconceptions about what many MSNBC guests are about; and how they view people like me.

    I was pointing out that it was odd Mediaite took it upon themselves to say MSNBC “apologized”. When they apparently did not. Something I didn’t pick up until I saw J$’s tweet.

    But, make no mistake. I couldn’t care less whether they apologize for this or something stupid they said last week or something stupid they will inevitably say next week.

  5. It was fairly impressive how you used your first post to bring up FNC though. I don’t quite understand how FNC is responsible for something stupid said on MSNBC but whatevs.

  6. It was stupid to have made the comment, it was stupid to have those yahoos in the background laughing and it may not have been an apology, apology, but, at least, SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE in the building realized what an idiotic statement to not have your host respond to. But, the reason it wasn’t responded to, it is not hard to believe she had the same feeling as the guest. IMO

  7. savefarris Says:

    I think we have a new contender to fill the Ronan Farrow slot!

  8. “I don’t quite understand how FNC is responsible for something stupid said on MSNBC but whatevs.”

    ^^I never said they were responsible only that certain shows on that network would use the comment to trash MSNBC. If something really stupid, was said by a guest on FNC show, which happens quite often; MSNBC would use that comment to trash FNC. It’s how those networks play with each other.

    My anger is with the guest who made the comment. I don’t think you’ll be seeing her on MSNBC for a long, long time – if ever. The network wasn’t at fault here, anymore than FNC is at fault for stupid things their guests say on air. Melber acted with class, under the circumstances, and dealt with the situation properly. But as J$’s comments illustrate so well; it’s still not going to matter; the die is cast.

  9. I don’t watch much MSNBC anymore. Was she a regular guest?

  10. “Was she a regular guest?”

    “I hadn’t seen her before but they have lots of guests I don’t know.”

  11. “Was she a regular guest?”

    Regular??……wouldn’t say that but shes on more than most non-paid guest. she been a guest on many MSNBC shows.

    Shes weird….she was worried about being killed by ISIS after a SNL skit.

  12. “. The network wasn’t at fault here, anymore than FNC is at fault for stupid things their guests say on air”

    Yea I remember when people said that when a Fox News guest talked about UK no-go zones.

  13. “I remember when people said that when a Fox News guest talked about UK no-go zones.”

    Ahh yes, lets compare an inappropriate and crude quip making fun of country fans, made by a guest as a joke, that was apologized for by the host within minutes to a serious misstatement of fact by an ‘expert on terrorism’ that was proved laughably false within minutes; that created a international incident and which the network took a week before it apologized for the mistake.

    A better comparison on FNC would be one of the many outrageous comments made by Andrea Tantaros, Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling or the gang on F&F make on a regular basis and that almost always go unchallenged and for which the network rarely apologizes.

    To be fair MSNBC and CNN have these bozo eruptions as well. Carol Costello and Don Lemon are the mail offenders currently on CNN. Over at MSNBC MJ hosts and sub-hosts, Ed Schultz, MHP or guests like the one in this situation are more likely to be the offenders.

  14. Don’t forget about Paris. And some of their paid pundits still haven’t apologized for that lie because they dragged people who had nothing to do with the week of lies apologize for them.

  15. My point was….lost on the haters of course was that she was a “guest” she does NOT work for MSNBC…..the guy on Fox News was a “guest” and yet the stooges still claim he worked for Fox News.

    I wasn’t comparing the out come just the fact that some people are not as forgiving when Fox News is involved…….thanks for proving my point.

  16. “My point was….lost on the haters of course was that she was a “guest” she does NOT work for MSNBC…..the guy on Fox News was a “guest” and yet the stooges still claim he worked for Fox News.”

    ^^Well I’m pretty sure if the FNC “guest” had made an offhand inappropriate joke about Hillary and her music tastes on Pirro`s show the Prime Minister of England wouldn’t`t have gotten involved.

    And If the “guest” on Wagner’s show was an self-proclaimed expert on terrorism` had said that Muslims jihadists controlled large areas of European cities all hell would have broken out.

    “I wasn’t comparing the out come just the fact that some people are not as forgiving when Fox News is involved”

    ^^Yes poor Fox News; always the victim; barely able to survive under the constant bullying of the MSM.🙂

  17. Outsider Says:

    Tantaros and Hannity don’t work for Fox?

  18. Outsider Says:


    Also: Phil Robertson is a terrible preacher. P.S. Phil hasn’t heard of Calvinism, post-Millenialism or Evangelicalism?

  19. Outsider Says:

    Phil Robertson is not an expert on terrorism or France. He offers nothing of substance. Absolutely no insight. Since he’s a ‘Bible-believing’ person, shouldn’t he be aware he doesn’t possess the gift of teaching? I know a poor teacher/preacher when I hear one. Plus, the vile things he says only embarrasses Christians.

  20. “Tantaros and Hannity don’t work for Fox?”

    Its ok to hate Fox News…..but at least know what you are talking about before commenting……hint the no-go zones in the UK came from a Fox News GUEST. The France stuff is what you are talking about…….you know the ones you are so upset about when CNN talked about them YEARS ago……oh wait that wasnt Fox News so it didnt matter.

    “self-proclaimed expert on terrorism`”

    um the US Government and the New York Times and the LA Times also called him a expert……but Fox News should have known right? They guys been called a terrorism expert by MSNBC also….by hey Fox.

    Richard Clarke, former head of counter-terrorism for the United States National Security Council, said of Emerson, “I think of Steve as the Paul Revere of terrorism … We’d always learn things [from him] we weren’t hearing from the FBI or CIA, things which almost always proved to be true.

    But Fox News should have known right?

  21. Not sure what “Phil Robertson” has to do with any of this except to defend MSNBC……it like look over there Fox News.

    I was only talking a Steven Emerson a GUEST on Fox news said something dumb and to this day the stooges claim he works for Fox News and use what he said to bash Fox……but hey bring up other Fox Errors instead.

    “The network wasn’t at fault here, anymore than FNC is at fault for stupid things their guests say on air”

    I pointed out that his comment was pure BS. Which it clearly is!

  22. “But Fox News should have known right?”

    ^^Well it was a pretty odd statement to make even from a ‘terrorism expert’ and he wasn’t Richard Clarke, but I’ll cut Pirro some slack because she’s not a ‘terrorism expert’.

    “But Fox News should have known right?”

    ^^FNC gets a pass for the first hour until the story was proven to be totally false. That they then held off on the apology for a week after they knew it was totally wrong shows not that they “should have known” but rather that they did know and decided to ride out the story until they were totally embarrassed.

  23. Outsider Says:

    You assume everyone who criticizes Fox will automatically exonerate CNN. You wish that were case so it fits your simplistic Fox vs. everyone else paradigm but it’s not. Had someone brought that up then, CNN would have been criticized. No one did then. When ‘Fox hater’ Erik Wemple mentioned Fox’s lie a few month back, he exposed CNN too.

  24. Outsider Says:

    I will cut Pirro some slack too. Besides, she eventually apologized.

    Birmingham claim fell flat, so lets shift ‘no-go zones’ to Paris instead.

  25. “You assume everyone who criticizes Fox will automatically exonerate CNN. You wish that were case so it fits your simplistic Fox vs. everyone else paradigm but it’s not.”

    In many ways it is….I could find tens of things others said that no one complained about but when Fox News said it it became a big deal.

    This very week a reporter once again said Steve Emerson worked for Fox News even though he NEVER has……..haven’t seen any one say Jamilah Lemieux works for MSNBC even though shes been on many MSNBC shows……People and stooges lose their minds when Fox is brought up.

    “Besides, she eventually apologized.”

    yea…..on the VERY next show….but hey Fox News.

    “When ‘Fox hater’ Erik Wemple mentioned Fox’s lie a few month back, he exposed CNN too.”

    Personally I don’t care if you complain about Fox News….I do it….but be truthful and don’t single out Fox for things other do when you are silent. I don’t post often but you might notice I almost never attack CNN or MSNBC for the most part….notice I didn’t here either……a guest said something dumb……..not the 1st time on MSNBC……but its a guest…..so I cant blame MSNBC……I just wish others said the same about Fox News when a guest says something dumb…..but hey its Fox and they are “evil”.

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